# Dear Tom Cruise, suck my sac

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 28, 2005, 9:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-tom-cruise-suck-my-sac/310169 "2005-06-28T09:22:49Z")\
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**Author:** ![TheLoadedDog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/35a633/32.png) [@TheLoadedDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheLoadedDog)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2005, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-tom-cruise-suck-my-sac/310169/81 "2005-06-29T22:46:39Z")

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On the “postage paid” topic…

The Australasian branch of the CoS puts out a _lot_ of mail. As a large mailer, they have an account with Australia Post, enabling them to lodge mail in bulk. Well, that is they _used_ to have an account. They still lodge mail in bulk, but these days Australia Post has cancelled their account and stipulated any dealings with the CoS be strictly cash. Cash, or bugger off. They simply don’t pay their bills.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2005, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-tom-cruise-suck-my-sac/310169/82 "2005-06-29T22:56:03Z")

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[Tom Cruise’s Blog](http://tomcruiseblog.blogspot.com/)

Hehehe.

> [@](#):
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> “Who do you love?”  
> “I’m not going to lie anymore, Tom.”  
> “Come on! You’ll blow our cover…”  
> “You, Tom. I…I love you.”  
> “Attagirl. Now, who do we pray to at night?”  
> “G…I mean…no one!”  
> “Perfect! Last one – desert island. One Book: The Bible, or Dianetics?”  
> “…this is getting ridiculous…”  
> “Say it! I mean…say it, please?”  
> “Dianetics! Dianetics, you little munchkin…”

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**Author:** ![Mr.Moto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9de0a6/32.png) [@Mr.Moto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Moto)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2005, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-tom-cruise-suck-my-sac/310169/83 "2005-06-30T04:58:28Z")

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I don’t have too much invested in this story. Cruise is a bit odd, even for an occupation where that is seen as a virtue at times. His relative importance, though, is of a par with a circus clown. They both provide harmless entertainments, except that the clown does it for far less money and with considerably more dignity.

[I did see this along the way, though,](http://www.hillnews.com/thehill/export/TheHill/News/Frontpage/062905/cruise.html) and one section in particular cracked me right up:

> [@](#):
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> Cruise has been active in politics, contributing thousands of dollars over the past decade to Democrats, including Sens. Barbara Boxer (Calif.), Hillary Rodham Clinton (N.Y.) and John Kerry (Mass.).

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**Author:** ![Rubystreak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Rubystreak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rubystreak)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2005, 5:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-tom-cruise-suck-my-sac/310169/84 "2005-06-30T05:16:02Z")

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> [@Prancer](#):
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> Bipolar Disease can get worse as a person gets older. It also tends to get worse the longer sufferers go without treatment. Some other things that might worsen it are stress and an erratic sleep schedule.

I’m not doubting you but… don’t you think he would have manifested some other erratic behavior before now? He’s always been very private and close-mouthed about personal stuff before this. His change in demeanor to openly belligerent and nearly evangelical about his beliefs, and his very public affection for Katie Holmes is so bizarre. It seems like something big must have happened to him to cause this behavior, because I imagine he’s been under stress and had an erratic sleep schedule before now.

But I’m not a psychiatrist, so what do I know? 😃

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**Author:** ![TheLoadedDog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/35a633/32.png) [@TheLoadedDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheLoadedDog)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2005, 5:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-tom-cruise-suck-my-sac/310169/85 "2005-06-30T05:48:57Z")

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My Tom Cruise story…

I’ve told this before on these boards, but I forget where.  
In the very early 90s, I was walking to work and up the street come Cruise and Nicole Kidman, surrounded by a gaggle of bodyguards. This was I guess at a bit of a peak time for Cruise as _Top Gun_ was a recent memory, and it was his first trip to Australia, a place where the media had been kissing his arse because of his relationship with Kidman, and there was a kind of short-lived “adopted son” mentality. So the Cruise entourage is walking up the Bayswater Rd hill, and I’m walking down. There is nobody else around. Now, I’m not big on celebrity worship, autographs, or any of that stuff (and most celebrities don’t like it anyway), so I just made to walk past them without acknowledgement. As I did so, Cruise fixed me with this bizarre look that I took to be a mixture of complete and utter disbelief that one of the locals wasn’t rushing to fawn all over him, and a certain element of anger at the fact. This struck me as a very, very strange attitude for a famous person to hold. Nicole Kidman, on the other hand, probably didn’t even notice me - a much healthier attitude.

So the above incident kinda cemented Tom Cruise in the “Arsehole” category in my mind, at least for the next decade and a half, and then, a few months ago, a friend of mine who DJs in a hip inner city nightclub told me that Tom Cruise had spent an evening there recently, and that “he was the nicest bloke you could imagine”. Friendly, generous, and down-to-earth, and he had all the staff really taken by him.

So I dunno. And does it matter?

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**Author:** ![Cunctator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/43a26b/32.png) [@Cunctator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cunctator)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2005, 6:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-tom-cruise-suck-my-sac/310169/86 "2005-06-30T06:14:47Z")

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> [@TheLoadedDog](#):
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> My Tom Cruise story…

I saw him and Nicole one night (probably about the same time as **TLD** ) when they were having dinner in a restaurant in Crows Nest with Nicole’s parents, who live in that area. The restaurant was fairly full, but nobody was taking very much notice of Tom and Nicole. Tom certainly didn’t appear to be anything out of the ordinary. I assumed he was just enjoying the experience of being able to eat out with his wife and in-laws in a suburban restaurant without a lot of fuss.

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**Author:** ![Prancer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8dc957/32.png) [@Prancer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prancer)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2005, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-tom-cruise-suck-my-sac/310169/87 "2005-06-30T15:46:18Z")

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> [@Rubystreak](#):
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> I’m not doubting you but… don’t you think he would have manifested some other erratic behavior before now? He’s always been very private and close-mouthed about personal stuff before this. His change in demeanor to openly belligerent and nearly evangelical about his beliefs, and his very public affection for Katie Holmes is so bizarre. It seems like something big must have happened to him to cause this behavior, because I imagine he’s been under stress and had an erratic sleep schedule before now.
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> But I’m not a psychiatrist, so what do I know? 😃

I’m not a psychiatrist either, so I’m just talking out of my semi-knowledgeable ass…

I kind of think there’s a tipping point with mental illness. You can be a little bizarre or “off” and it’s not a big deal. Most people will never notice, especially if you’re a private person. Friends, family, employees will make excuses, just like for substance abuse – at first. But, sooner or later, the fulcrum moves past the middle point of the seesaw and it’s impossible to cover the bizarreness up. Other than the most recent round of interviews he’s done, how long has it been since he’s been in the public eye? I find it likely that between the publicity tour for Collateral and now that he’s reached his tipping point. And, his ass is approaching the ground very quickly…

However, there are plenty of other good explanations for this wackyass behavior. I like this one because the treatment, should he ever be forced to accept it, would be karmic retribution: the very drugs and medical professionals he’s speaking out against now.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2005, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-tom-cruise-suck-my-sac/310169/88 "2005-06-30T16:06:26Z")

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> [@Rubystreak](#):
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> But I’m not a psychiatrist, so what do I know? 😃

Then you know better, because remember, psychiatrists are EVIL. 😉

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**Author:** ![Cyros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a698b9/32.png) [@Cyros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cyros)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2005, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-tom-cruise-suck-my-sac/310169/89 "2005-07-01T18:34:58Z")

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So, Brooke Shields has written an [op-ed piece](http://www.nytimes.com/auth/login?URI=http://www.nytimes.com/2005/07/01/opinion/01shields.html&OQ=pagewantedQ3Dall&OP=70a360f1Q2FVQ5E-Q7CVQ7E.loQ5D..iQ60VQ60HHQ2AVH7VHtV.fBeB.eVHtodB-sQ7EoAdihs) in today’s New York Times. (Registration is free but required, unfortunately). Here are a free choice quotes:

> [@Brooke Shields](#):
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> While Mr. Cruise says that Mr. Lauer and I do not “understand the history of psychiatry,” I’m going to take a wild guess and say that Mr. Cruise has never suffered from postpartum depression.

> [@Brooke Shields](#):
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> And comments like those made by Tom Cruise are a disservice to mothers everywhere. To suggest that I was wrong to take drugs to deal with my depression, and that instead I should have taken vitamins and exercised shows an utter lack of understanding about postpartum depression and childbirth in general.
> 
> If any good can come of Mr. Cruise’s ridiculous rant, let’s hope that it gives much-needed attention to a serious disease.

Unbelievably, now fellow Scientologist John Travolta’s wife, [Kelly Preston](http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=1832&ncid=1832&e=1&u=/cpress/20050701/ca_pr_on_en/shields_cruise) has felt the need to jump to Tom Cruise’s aid:

> [@Yahoo! News article](#):
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> In an interview with AP Radio on Wednesday night, actress Kelly Preston, who is married to actor John Travolta and also is a Scientologist, defended Cruise’s Today show comments about Shields.
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> “If you’re going to be advocating drugs, which she does in her book, you need to be responsible for also telling the people of the potential risks,” she said.

Seeing the controversy that has arisen from Tom Cruise’s ill-informed remarks and erratic behavior, what would inspire someone to align themselves with that trainwreck. Aside from being a fellow Scientologist, that is…

Yes, _all_ medication has potential side effects. No one is suggesting we all start medicating ourselves willy nilly without medical guidance and research. And lets not forget Tom was not sharing potential risks - he was simply trying to invalidate psychiatry (and giving erroneous information on Ritalin to boot). Cripes!

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2005, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-tom-cruise-suck-my-sac/310169/90 "2005-07-01T18:43:18Z")

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Psst-for those who don’t want to register: [BugMeNot.Com](http://bugmenot.com)

It cracks me up that Tom goes on and on about how psychiatry is a “pseudo-science”, despite decades of research, clinical studies, experiments, observation, data, etc. But he believes whole-heartedly in _Dianetics_, which has NONE of that-it was just something Hubbard pulled out of his own ass. (Probably while hepped on-you guessed it!-drugs).

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**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2005, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-tom-cruise-suck-my-sac/310169/91 "2005-07-01T18:47:11Z")

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> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> It cracks me up that Tom goes on and on about how psychiatry is a “pseudo-science”, despite decades of research, clinical studies, experiments, observation, data, etc. But he believes whole-heartedly in _Dianetics_, which has NONE of that-it was just something Hubbard pulled out of his own ass. (Probably while hepped on-you guessed it!-drugs).

Xenu sending trillions of aliens to Earth in spaceships that look like exact copies of Douglas DC-8s and being nuked in volcanoes? Sound plausible.

Mental problems being helped chemically? That’s pseudo-science!!!

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**Author:** ![gum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bbe5ce/32.png) [@gum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gum)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2005, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-tom-cruise-suck-my-sac/310169/92 "2005-07-01T20:10:41Z")

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[hijack]Kelly Preston is married to John Travolta? She’s the woman who played the Amish character in ‘Witness’, isn’t she? [/hijack]

Sorry, sorry. Carry on with pissing on Tom. Love it. 😉

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**Author:** ![Scott\_Plaid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@Scott\_Plaid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scott_Plaid)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2005, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-tom-cruise-suck-my-sac/310169/93 "2005-07-01T20:11:26Z")

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> [@gum](#):
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> [hijack]Sorry, sorry. Carry on with pissing on Tom. Love it. 😉

So does he! 😛

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**Author:** ![gum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bbe5ce/32.png) [@gum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gum)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2005, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-tom-cruise-suck-my-sac/310169/94 "2005-07-01T20:13:34Z")

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> [@Scott Plaid](#):
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> So does he! 😛

hehehehe 🙂

That would be a chemical shower, right?

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**Author:** ![Scott\_Plaid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@Scott\_Plaid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scott_Plaid)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2005, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-tom-cruise-suck-my-sac/310169/95 "2005-07-01T20:19:42Z")

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> [@gum](#):
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> That would be a chemical shower, right?

[If I drink enough [del]alcohol[/del] meds can I light my pee?](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=322134)

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**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2005, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-tom-cruise-suck-my-sac/310169/96 "2005-07-01T20:20:18Z")

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> [@gum](#):
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> [hijack]Kelly Preston is married to John Travolta? She’s the woman who played the Amish character in ‘Witness’, isn’t she? [/hijack]

Nope. It’s [Kelly McGillis](http://imdb.com/title/tt0090329/).

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**Author:** ![gum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bbe5ce/32.png) [@gum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gum)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2005, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-tom-cruise-suck-my-sac/310169/97 "2005-07-01T20:30:31Z")

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> [@Tuckerfan](#):
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> Nope. It’s [Kelly McGillis](http://imdb.com/title/tt0090329/).

Oh heck. So it is.  
Thanks **Tuckerfan** 🙂

But who’s Kelly Preston again?

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**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2005, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-tom-cruise-suck-my-sac/310169/98 "2005-07-01T20:33:38Z")

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> [@gum](#):
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> Oh heck. So it is.  
> Thanks **Tuckerfan** 🙂
> 
> But who’s Kelly Preston again?

[IMDB is your friend.](http://imdb.com/name/nm0000593/)

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**Author:** ![AWB](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/bb73d2/32.png) [@AWB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AWB)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2005, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-tom-cruise-suck-my-sac/310169/99 "2005-07-01T20:42:37Z")

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> [@mr bus guy](#):
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> He’s an ignorant pretentious fuckbag, and he’s ruined my fantasy life for first Nicole, then Penelope, now Katie. Who wants to daydream about someone stupid enough to spend time with him?

Who’re also stupid enough to join his cult.

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**Author:** ![gum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bbe5ce/32.png) [@gum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gum)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2005, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-tom-cruise-suck-my-sac/310169/100 "2005-07-01T20:49:27Z")

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Thanks again, **Tuckerfan**. I can’t say she looks familiar, though she seems to have starred in ‘Amazon women on the Moon’.

Why can’t I remember her? I swear I’m not as old as Hendrikje van Andel - Shipper. 😃

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