# Dear Violent, Murderous Islamophobes (I know you MUST exist!)

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**Created:** [May 29, 2017, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-violent-murderous-islamophobes-i-know-you-must-exist/787645 "2017-05-29T13:42:12Z")\
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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2017, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-violent-murderous-islamophobes-i-know-you-must-exist/787645/1 "2017-05-29T13:42:12Z")

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Okay, guys, this is the last straw:

> **[NYC college student lied to cops, claiming racists abducted him in harrowing...](https://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/nyc-crime/nyc-student-lied-cops-claiming-racists-abducted-robbed-article-1.3201582)**
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> A Queens student who told cops he was thrown into a van and robbed by three masked men yelling racial slurs made up the attack, police said.

The Left is constantly looking for Teachable Moments, incidents they can publicize and trumpet to prove that middle America is filled with violent racists. They’ve been telling us for years that, while real Islamic terrorism is sort of regrettable, the Twue Danger is a possible, potential, hypothetical, imaginary “backlash” against nice, ordinary Muslim shopkeepers and engineers.

Problem is, you violent racist Islamophobes keep letting them down! You’re SUPPOSED to be out there torching mosques, beating up Pakistani cab drivers, ripping burqas off innocent housewives, sending threatening letters to madrases. That’s your job!!! But you lazy bums keep failing to do it!

There are so few real anti-Muslim hate crimes that the poor liberals and Muslims have to make up their own just to get a little publicity for their cause. And in fairness, they’ve done brilliantly at picking up the slack:

> **[Louisiana student ‘fabricated’ story of hijab attack, police say](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/11/10/women-in-hijabs-on-2-campuses-say-they-were-attacked-by-men-invoking-donald-trump/?utm_term=.8951be00ed0f)**
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> A Muslim student at San Diego State University said she was robbed and possibly had her car stolen. A Louisiana student, meanwhile, "fabricated" a story of an attack during which her hijab was ripped off, police said.

> **[Fake ‘Hate Crime’ Report at Beloit College Leads to Arrest](https://www.mystateline.com/news/fake-hate-crime-report-at-beloit-college-leads-to-arrest/648472553/)**
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> Beloit Police say they have solved a report of a ‘hate crime’ on campus, which they now say was fraudulent.

[www.ajc.com/news/cobb/suspect-in-mosque-arson-566659.html&date=2011-04-18](http://www.ajc.com/news/cobb/suspect-in-mosque-arson-566659.html&date=2011-04-18)

Damn it, there is NO reason liberals and Muslims should need to fake hate crimes. YOU lazy bigots are driving them to do so through your own stubborn, refusal to get off your butts and commit crimes yourselves. You should be ashamed. Get busy committing REAL hate crimes now!!! Otherwise, the Southern Law Poverty Center will have to quit and get productive, useful jobs… and God knows, we don’t want that.

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**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2017, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-violent-murderous-islamophobes-i-know-you-must-exist/787645/2 "2017-05-29T13:54:41Z")

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You think you could have waited at least a week before talking about how “rare” anti-Muslim attacks are? I mean, the Portland thing just happened a couple of days ago. It’s still very much in the news cycle.

I know the Doper conservatives are just chomping at the bit to make more librul tears, but this is a pretty stupid and unfunny way to do it.

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**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2017, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-violent-murderous-islamophobes-i-know-you-must-exist/787645/3 "2017-05-29T13:55:32Z")

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Rants go in the Pit

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**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2017, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-violent-murderous-islamophobes-i-know-you-must-exist/787645/4 "2017-05-29T14:29:42Z")

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I hope you’re not implying the student lied to police.

As the linked story clearly states, he was merely “fibbing.”

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2017, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-violent-murderous-islamophobes-i-know-you-must-exist/787645/5 "2017-05-29T14:50:11Z")

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> [@astorian](#):
>
> Okay, guys, this is the last straw:
> 
> [NYC college student lied to cops, claiming racists abducted him in harrowing robbery – New York Daily News](http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/nyc-crime/nyc-student-lied-cops-claiming-racists-abducted-robbed-article-1.3201582)
> 
> The Left is constantly looking for Teachable Moments, incidents they can publicize and trumpet to prove that middle America is filled with violent racists. They’ve been telling us for years that, while real Islamic terrorism is sort of regrettable, the Twue Danger is a possible, potential, hypothetical, imaginary “backlash” against nice, ordinary Muslim shopkeepers and engineers.
> 
> Problem is, you violent racist Islamophobes keep letting them down! You’re SUPPOSED to be out there torching mosques, beating up Pakistani cab drivers, ripping burqas off innocent housewives, sending threatening letters to madrases. That’s your job!!! But you lazy bums keep failing to do it!
> 
> There are so few real anti-Muslim hate crimes that the poor liberals and Muslims have to make up their own just to get a little publicity for their cause. And in fairness, they’ve done brilliantly at picking up the slack:
> 
> [https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/11/10/women-in-hijabs-on-2-campuses-say-they-were-attacked-by-men-invoking-donald-trump/?utm\_term=.8951be00ed0f](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/11/10/women-in-hijabs-on-2-campuses-say-they-were-attacked-by-men-invoking-donald-trump/?utm_term=.8951be00ed0f)
> 
> [http://www.mystateline.com/news/fake-hate-crime-report-at-beloit-college-leads-to-arrest/648472553](http://www.mystateline.com/news/fake-hate-crime-report-at-beloit-college-leads-to-arrest/648472553)
> 
> [www.ajc.com/news/cobb/suspect-in-mosque-arson-566659.html&date=2011-04-18](http://www.ajc.com/news/cobb/suspect-in-mosque-arson-566659.html&date=2011-04-18)
> 
> Damn it, there is NO reason liberals and Muslims should need to fake hate crimes. YOU lazy bigots are driving them to do so through your own stubborn, refusal to get off your butts and commit crimes yourselves. You should be ashamed. Get busy committing REAL hate crimes now!!! Otherwise, the Southern Law Poverty Center will have to quit and get productive, useful jobs… and God knows, we don’t want that.

[This hate-fueled stabbing in Portland, Oregon](http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2017/05/police_responding_to_ne_portla.html) is all over the fucking news, asshole.

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**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2017, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-violent-murderous-islamophobes-i-know-you-must-exist/787645/6 "2017-05-29T15:00:41Z")

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I did find it somewhat, I hesitate to say amusing but will anyway for want of a better term, amusing that the attacker was named Christian.

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**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2017, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-violent-murderous-islamophobes-i-know-you-must-exist/787645/7 "2017-05-29T15:02:53Z")

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Sometimes women falsely report being raped.

I guess we can just stop worrying about them anymore along with anti-Muslim violence. :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2017, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-violent-murderous-islamophobes-i-know-you-must-exist/787645/8 "2017-05-29T15:02:56Z")

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The Portland stabbing deaths prove that, just like the Islamic terrorists nutjobs they hate, bigoted assholes on the political right are equally happy to target women and the young, and unarmed victims are even better.

OP, your timing on this sucks.

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**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2017, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-violent-murderous-islamophobes-i-know-you-must-exist/787645/9 "2017-05-29T15:07:08Z")

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And the OP is cherry picking:

> [@](#):
>
> **Anti-Muslim assaults reach 9/11-era levels, FBI data show**
> 
> The number of physical assaults against Muslims in the United States reached 9/11-era levels last year, according to a Pew Research Center analysis of new hate crimes statistics from the FBI. There were 91 reported aggravated or simple assaults motivated by anti-Muslim bias in 2015, just two shy of the 93 reported in 2001.
> 
> Separately, the number of anti-Muslim intimidation crimes – defined as threatening bodily harm — also rose in 2015, with 120 reported to the FBI. Again, this was the most anti-Muslim intimidation crimes reported in any year since 2001, when there were 296.
> 
> SOURCE: [Anti-Muslim assaults reach 9/11-era levels, FBI data show | Pew Research Center](http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/11/21/anti-muslim-assaults-reach-911-era-levels-fbi-data-show/)

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2017, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-violent-murderous-islamophobes-i-know-you-must-exist/787645/10 "2017-05-29T15:08:13Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> [This hate-fueled stabbing in Portland, Oregon](http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2017/05/police_responding_to_ne_portla.html) is all over the fucking news, asshole.

You think that’s bad? Imagine the fallout if it turns out he’s lying about stabbing those people.

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2017, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-violent-murderous-islamophobes-i-know-you-must-exist/787645/11 "2017-05-29T15:11:53Z")

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> [@astorian](#):
>
> Okay, guys, this is the last straw:
> 
> [NYC college student lied to cops, claiming racists abducted him in harrowing robbery – New York Daily News](http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/nyc-crime/nyc-student-lied-cops-claiming-racists-abducted-robbed-article-1.3201582)
> 
> The Left is constantly looking for Teachable Moments, incidents they can publicize and trumpet to prove that middle America is filled with violent racists. They’ve been telling us for years that, while real Islamic terrorism is sort of regrettable, the Twue Danger is a possible, potential, hypothetical, imaginary “backlash” against nice, ordinary Muslim shopkeepers and engineers.

What utter bullshit. **Astorian** is of course trolling, but I welcome him to identify which posters, _on this board_, actually “publicize and trumpet” fake hate crimes. Names and specific threads, please.

> [@](#):
>
> There are so few real anti-Muslim hate crimes that the poor liberals and Muslims have to make up their own just to get a little publicity for their cause. And in fairness, they’ve done brilliantly at picking up the slack:
> 
> [https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/11/10/women-in-hijabs-on-2-campuses-say-they-were-attacked-by-men-invoking-donald-trump/?utm\_term=.8951be00ed0f](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/11/10/women-in-hijabs-on-2-campuses-say-they-were-attacked-by-men-invoking-donald-trump/?utm_term=.8951be00ed0f)
> 
> [http://www.mystateline.com/news/fake-hate-crime-report-at-beloit-college-leads-to-arrest/648472553](http://www.mystateline.com/news/fake-hate-crime-report-at-beloit-college-leads-to-arrest/648472553)
> 
> [www.ajc.com/news/cobb/suspect-in-mosque-arson-566659.html&date=2011-04-18](http://www.ajc.com/news/cobb/suspect-in-mosque-arson-566659.html&date=2011-04-18)

Of the above cites, the first is from November last year and has already been discussed extensively on this board. The second refers to a fake **anti-jewish** hate crime. The last one is 404.

It’s a national holiday, **astorian**. Why don’t you take the day off from being a flaming asshole?

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**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2017, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-violent-murderous-islamophobes-i-know-you-must-exist/787645/12 "2017-05-29T15:12:38Z")

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Since one of the people killed in Portland wasn’t a Mooslim, I guess the lefties can’t use it as an example of anti-Mooslim violence, right?

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**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2017, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-violent-murderous-islamophobes-i-know-you-must-exist/787645/13 "2017-05-29T15:15:41Z")

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The second one discussing an antisemetic threat does also detail an anti Islamic incident that was fabricated. The404 error article appears to be from 2011?

Perhaps this is the incident?

> **[Mosque Arson Case Is Continued](https://patch.com/georgia/marietta/mosque-arson-case-is-continued)**
>
> The next calendar call is Oct. 12, when Tamsir Mendy's trial could move forward.

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2017, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-violent-murderous-islamophobes-i-know-you-must-exist/787645/14 "2017-05-29T15:19:26Z")

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OK, the second one was anti-muslim, not anti-jewish after all. My point remains.

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**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2017, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-violent-murderous-islamophobes-i-know-you-must-exist/787645/15 "2017-05-29T15:20:32Z")

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Not only are the Portland murders (thanks trump) still fresh, there was a recent incident where a teacher ripped off a Muslim girl’s hijab. Not that I’m going to look for a cite to satisfy the punk bitch OP.

Liberals lurve terrorism. Thank God right-wing shitstains like **Astorian** exist to remind us that you can’t be against both terrorism and hate crimes. What a fucking useless cuntbag.

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**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2017, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-violent-murderous-islamophobes-i-know-you-must-exist/787645/16 "2017-05-29T15:25:05Z")

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And do we have to go back 6 years top find mosque arson cases?

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**Author:** ![Ramira](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ramira/32/344_2.png) [@Ramira](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ramira)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2017, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-violent-murderous-islamophobes-i-know-you-must-exist/787645/17 "2017-05-29T15:28:49Z")

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The Muslims in America are nice and lucky, they have also the non-Muslim Indian Americans to provide the nice targets for what the idiot OP says does not exists, [except of course for the murdered dead](http://www.reuters.com/article/us-kansas-india-idUSKBN16623I)…

but he found an angle for the denial, so he is happy.

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2017, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-violent-murderous-islamophobes-i-know-you-must-exist/787645/18 "2017-05-29T15:44:26Z")

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> [@El\_Kabong](#):
>
> It’s a national holiday, **astorian**. Why don’t you take the day off from being a flaming asshole?

> [@BlankSlate](#):
>
> Thank God right-wing shitstains like **Astorian** exist to remind us that you can’t be against both terrorism and hate crimes. What a fucking useless cuntbag.

QFT

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2017, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-violent-murderous-islamophobes-i-know-you-must-exist/787645/19 "2017-05-29T15:47:03Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
>
> [This hate-fueled stabbing in Portland, Oregon](http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2017/05/police_responding_to_ne_portla.html) is all over the fucking news, asshole.

I made the mistake of reading the comments under a report of this incident on Yahoo or one of the other big sites. There are actually idiots blaming the teenage Muslim girl for the deaths.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2017, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-violent-murderous-islamophobes-i-know-you-must-exist/787645/20 "2017-05-29T15:47:19Z")

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> [@Whack-a-Mole](#):
>
> Sometimes women falsely report being raped.
> 
> I guess we can just stop worrying about them anymore along with anti-Muslim violence.

That’s the whole point. The OP and people like him want to stop caring about anti-Muslim crimes. It doesn’t fit their world view. So they love fake crimes because that’s gives them an excuse to ignore real crimes.

Unless it’s James O’Keefe. When he commits a fake crime it proves that other crimes like it are real.

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