# Dear Violent, Murderous Islamophobes (I know you MUST exist!) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 29, 2017, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-violent-murderous-islamophobes-i-know-you-must-exist/787645 "2017-05-29T13:42:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Surreal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@Surreal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Surreal)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2017, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-violent-murderous-islamophobes-i-know-you-must-exist/787645/21 "2017-05-29T17:06:39Z")
> [@Broomstick](#): > > The Portland stabbing deaths prove that, just like the Islamic terrorists nutjobs they hate, bigoted assholes on the political right are equally happy to target women and the young, and unarmed victims are even better. The Portland killer wasn’t a part of the political right: > **[Portland Killer Is An Anti-Circumcision, Bernie Sanders Supporter](https://dailycaller.com/2017/05/28/portland-killer-is-an-anti-circumcision-bernie-sanders-supporter/)** > > Did not vote for Donald Trump. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2017, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-violent-murderous-islamophobes-i-know-you-must-exist/787645/22 "2017-05-29T17:23:18Z")
Sorry for not dwelling in detail on the latest murderous fucktard in the world. Regardless, he IS a bigot. And fucktard for targeting unarmed young women because, you know, it’s so goddamned manly to target those smaller and weaker than you. Especially when you’re armed and they’re not. ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2017, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-violent-murderous-islamophobes-i-know-you-must-exist/787645/23 "2017-05-29T18:07:42Z")
> [@Surreal](#): > > The Portland killer wasn’t a part of the political right: > > [Portland Killer Is An Anti-Circumcision, Bernie Sanders Supporter | The Daily Caller](http://dailycaller.com/2017/05/28/portland-killer-is-an-anti-circumcision-bernie-sanders-supporter/) Hmmm… > [@](#): > > Christian is a known right wing extremist and white supremacist. On April 29, Christian showed up to the right-wing “March for Free Speech” on 82nd Avenue in Montavilla with a baseball bat in an attempt to assault left-wing protesters. The bat was quickly confiscated by Portland police officers. He ranted how he was a nihilist. He’d soon yelled racial slurs (“fuck all you n\*\*\*\*\*s”) and gave the Nazi salute throughout the day. He yelled “Hail Vinland” throughout the day. > > SOURCE: [http://www.portlandmercury.com/blogtown/2017/05/27/19041594/suspect-in-portland-hate-crime-murders-is-a-known-white-supremacist](http://www.portlandmercury.com/blogtown/2017/05/27/19041594/suspect-in-portland-hate-crime-murders-is-a-known-white-supremacist) Not sure how to parse your tweets versus his actions except to say he’s a nutjob. I will also say I think his actions trump your tweets to suggest he is a right-wing nutjob. ---
**Author:** ![Ramira](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ramira/32/344_2.png) [@Ramira](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ramira)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2017, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-violent-murderous-islamophobes-i-know-you-must-exist/787645/24 "2017-05-29T18:10:46Z")
> [@Surreal](#): > > The Portland killer wasn’t a part of the political right: > > [Portland Killer Is An Anti-Circumcision, Bernie Sanders Supporter | The Daily Caller](http://dailycaller.com/2017/05/28/portland-killer-is-an-anti-circumcision-bernie-sanders-supporter/) > [@Broomstick](#): > > Sorry for not dwelling in detail on the latest murderous fucktard in the world. Regardless, he IS a bigot. And fucktard for targeting unarmed young women because, you know, it’s so goddamned manly to target those smaller and weaker than you. Especially when you’re armed and they’re not. The non right wing sources about the person do not support the idea that [he was a person](http://katu.com/news/local/what-we-know-about-the-max-train-double-murder-suspect-jeremy-joseph-christian)on [the Left.](http://katu.com/news/local/what-we-know-about-the-max-train-double-murder-suspect-jeremy-joseph-christian) from the 2nd link > [@](#): > > He has shared anti-Muslim memes, espoused Nazi beliefs and called Oklahoma City bomber Timothy McVeigh a “true patriot.” it is possible that in fact the standard news are wrong and the link from what I have noted is a strongly ideolgoical hard right american source is correct… but I would have doubts about that without some balanced confirmations. > [@Whack-a-Mole](#): > > Hmmm… > > Not sure how to parse your tweets versus his actions except to say he’s a nutjob. > > I will also say I think his actions trump your tweets to suggest he is a right-wing nutjob. it would be useful to see the real underlying contexts taking into account the source. ---
**Author:** ![Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/malleus_incus_stapes/32/3293_2.png) [@Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malleus_Incus_Stapes)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2017, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-violent-murderous-islamophobes-i-know-you-must-exist/787645/25 "2017-05-29T18:18:16Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > I made the mistake of reading the comments under a report of this incident on Yahoo or one of the other big sites. There are actually idiots blaming the teenage Muslim girl for the deaths. How?!? “Head scarves deserve the death penalty” or something? Also, to the OP: your timing sucks. Seriously. To point that I am nearly certain you’re trolling here. ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2017, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-violent-murderous-islamophobes-i-know-you-must-exist/787645/26 "2017-05-29T18:18:49Z")
> [@Ramira](#): > > it would be useful to see the real underlying contexts taking into account the source. Not really. If I tweet about how much I love black people and black culture and then, in public and in numerous instances, harangue black people would you say later that I am not a racist because I said nice things about black people on Twitter? His Twitter account is a data point and worth looking at but his actions are what defines him more and those were decidedly right-wing crazy. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2017, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-violent-murderous-islamophobes-i-know-you-must-exist/787645/27 "2017-05-29T18:36:22Z")
It’s too hot out. ---
**Author:** ![Ramira](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ramira/32/344_2.png) [@Ramira](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ramira)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2017, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-violent-murderous-islamophobes-i-know-you-must-exist/787645/28 "2017-05-29T18:40:46Z")
> [@Whack-a-Mole](#): > > Not really. > > If I tweet about how much I love black people and black culture and then, in public and in numerous instances, harangue black people would you say later that I am not a racist because I said nice things about black people on Twitter? > > His Twitter account is a data point and worth looking at but his actions are what defines him more and those were decidedly right-wing crazy. I will be clear, from the source I can have strong doubts of the accuracy of a screenshot. and since he is cited from the more reliable sources as having exposed Nazi sympathies, clearly over time, it can be expected he was not a classic Left person of the sort the hard right Americans like the OP like to complain about: > [@](#): > > On his Facebook page, Christian has spoken of his Nazi sympathies and posted a picture of Adolf Hitler in an album he called “Good Stuff.” The Southern Poverty Law Center, which tracks extremist groups, said his posts reflected “an individual all over the political spectrum but indicates that he holds some racist and other extremist beliefs.” > > In one post, he says: “I want a job in Norway cutting off the heads of people that Circumcize Babies…Like if you agree!!!” It reminds me more of a certain kind of Front National supporter who sometimes glides over to the Stalinists and is generally a resentful of the overall system. ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2017, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-violent-murderous-islamophobes-i-know-you-must-exist/787645/29 "2017-05-29T18:48:18Z")
Fake crimes exist. Therefore all crimes are fake and a trend of certain crimes increasing can be ignored. I’m confused. **Astorian** , for some reason, I had it in my head that you were… How should I put it… …Not an idiot. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2017, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-violent-murderous-islamophobes-i-know-you-must-exist/787645/30 "2017-05-29T18:48:47Z")
> [@Surreal](#): > > The Portland killer wasn’t a part of the political right: > > [Portland Killer Is An Anti-Circumcision, Bernie Sanders Supporter | The Daily Caller](http://dailycaller.com/2017/05/28/portland-killer-is-an-anti-circumcision-bernie-sanders-supporter/) His election day tweet was _“Just want all my FB Peeps to know I could not bring myself to vote Trump like I said I would.”_ So apparently he had been saying he was going to vote for Trump. ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2017, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-violent-murderous-islamophobes-i-know-you-must-exist/787645/31 "2017-05-29T18:51:13Z")
**OP** Two people in Portland just died. One is seriously injured. Your data is outdated and flawed. You started this rant why? I want a serious answer to that, because I can’t see a reason other than trolling. ---
**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2017, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-violent-murderous-islamophobes-i-know-you-must-exist/787645/32 "2017-05-29T19:00:24Z")
> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#): > > Fake crimes exist. Therefore all crimes are fake and a trend of certain crimes increasing can be ignored. > > I’m confused. **Astorian** , for some reason, I had it in my head that you were… How should I put it… > > …Not an idiot. I don’t know what would give you that idea. **astorian** has always been a huge idiot. **asterion** , however, seems to be a decent fellow. (I get them confused too.) ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2017, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-violent-murderous-islamophobes-i-know-you-must-exist/787645/33 "2017-05-29T19:10:58Z")
> [@monstro](#): > > I don’t know what would give you that idea. **astorian** has always been a huge idiot. > > **asterion** , however, seems to be a decent fellow. > > (I get them confused too.) Oh, that is unfortunate. It explains a lot, however. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2017, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-violent-murderous-islamophobes-i-know-you-must-exist/787645/34 "2017-05-29T19:15:15Z")
We’re still waiting for the White House to address the Portland murders. ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2017, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-violent-murderous-islamophobes-i-know-you-must-exist/787645/35 "2017-05-29T19:29:01Z")
He did apparently this morning. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2017, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-violent-murderous-islamophobes-i-know-you-must-exist/787645/36 "2017-05-29T19:37:22Z")
> [@Sunny\_Daze](#): > > He did apparently this morning. No misspellings, no lies, no “loser!”-I’m guessing someone on his staff wrote that for him. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2017, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-violent-murderous-islamophobes-i-know-you-must-exist/787645/37 "2017-05-29T19:42:10Z")
> [@Sunny\_Daze](#): > > **OP** Two people in Portland just died. One is seriously injured. Your data is outdated and flawed. You started this rant why? > > I want a serious answer to that, because I can’t see a reason other than trolling. Because a hate crime against a Muslim derails the right wing anti-Muslim narrative. You have to get it back on the rails quickly by either talking about some crime committed by a Muslim or by talking about a fake anti-Muslim crime. ---
**Author:** ![Mighty\_Girl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@Mighty\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Girl)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2017, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-violent-murderous-islamophobes-i-know-you-must-exist/787645/38 "2017-05-29T19:56:08Z")
Not knowing the OP, I seriously thought that he was a leftist using sarcasm to criticize stupid right wing ideas in the wake of the Portland incident. I was ready to chastize him for it. Turns out it’s worse than I thought, and he really meant it. The most generous scenario here is that he’s trolling us. Ay caramba! ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2017, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-violent-murderous-islamophobes-i-know-you-must-exist/787645/39 "2017-05-29T20:25:14Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > I hope you’re not implying the student lied to police. > > As the linked story clearly states, he was merely “fibbing.” Ah. You mean alternate facts. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2017, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-violent-murderous-islamophobes-i-know-you-must-exist/787645/40 "2017-05-29T20:39:13Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > No misspellings, no lies, no “loser!”-I’m guessing someone on his staff wrote that for him. And it turns out I was right: The tweet came from the the official White House Twitter account that is run by his staff(@POTUS), not from his personal account(@realDonaldTrump). [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-violent-murderous-islamophobes-i-know-you-must-exist/787645.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-violent-murderous-islamophobes-i-know-you-must-exist/787645.md?page=3)