# Dear Wiccans: get over yourselves

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-wiccans-get-over-yourselves/499968>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 16, 2009, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-wiccans-get-over-yourselves/499968 "2009-06-16T17:55:17Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Covered\_In\_Bees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7ab992/32.png) [@Covered\_In\_Bees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Covered_In_Bees)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2009, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-wiccans-get-over-yourselves/499968/241 "2009-06-23T02:11:58Z")

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I think this thread just goes to show that I either managed to get onto everyone’s ignore lists in a very short amount of time or no one here appreciates cheesecake in the same manner that I do.

Either way I am a sad kitten that my cheesecake goes unnoticed.

☹

> [@Covered\_In\_Bees](#):
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> Can we go back to talking about banging **[hot](http://pix.motivatedphotos.com/2008/6/21/633496345923873040-hot-redheads.jpg)** **[redheads](http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h245/atlantacyclist8/DagmarMidcap1.jpg)**?
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> I’d like to offer **[Exhibit 1](http://oh-snap.us/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/alyson-hannigan.jpg)**, **[Exhibit 2](http://lios.apana.org.au/~mkaree/kari_byron_shark_bikini.jpg)**, and **[Exhibit 3](http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g316/PurpleLava/06-kari_byron_shark_bikini_radio_sm.jpg)** as to why we should go back to talking about them.
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> All opposed?

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**Author:** ![devilsknew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/4da419/32.png) [@devilsknew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/devilsknew)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2009, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-wiccans-get-over-yourselves/499968/242 "2009-06-23T03:46:41Z")

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I’ll take [Hot](http://pix.motivatedphotos.com/2008/6/21/633496345923873040-hot-redheads.jpg), please.

If you made that, what is the model’s name and domain, please, Sir?!

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**Author:** ![Covered\_In\_Bees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7ab992/32.png) [@Covered\_In\_Bees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Covered_In_Bees)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2009, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-wiccans-get-over-yourselves/499968/243 "2009-06-23T03:53:53Z")

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Her name is, um, Natalie! Yeah, that’s it!

I’m her manager see, so just go ahead and send me a envelope full of money and I’ll set-up a date between the two of you.

Sound good? 🆒

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**Author:** ![devilsknew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/4da419/32.png) [@devilsknew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/devilsknew)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2009, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-wiccans-get-over-yourselves/499968/244 "2009-06-23T03:55:50Z")

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You lie, I can see her soul. She is no prostitute.

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**Author:** ![Covered\_In\_Bees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7ab992/32.png) [@Covered\_In\_Bees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Covered_In_Bees)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2009, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-wiccans-get-over-yourselves/499968/245 "2009-06-23T03:57:06Z")

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No of course not sir!

How could you use such terms? She’s an entrepreneur.

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**Author:** ![devilsknew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/4da419/32.png) [@devilsknew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/devilsknew)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2009, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-wiccans-get-over-yourselves/499968/246 "2009-06-23T04:11:23Z")

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> [@Covered\_In\_Bees](#):
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> No of course not sir!
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> How could you use such terms? She’s an entrepreneur.

Pretty clever… but you seem to have given this girl life, perhaps you’re Big Pimpin’?

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**Author:** ![devilsknew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/4da419/32.png) [@devilsknew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/devilsknew)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2009, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-wiccans-get-over-yourselves/499968/247 "2009-06-23T05:04:12Z")

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Actually, there is quite a cultural distinction between male and female pimps (mackerel). There is the whole Madame, and Mama-San , Butch (Dyke) Vig, matriarchal prostitute, Feminist sexworker phenomenon, that perpetuates the market. Guys just get a bad rap… How could I not find her most sexually potent, delicate, feminine, and above all, the most beautiful?

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**Author:** ![Covered\_In\_Bees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7ab992/32.png) [@Covered\_In\_Bees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Covered_In_Bees)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2009, 5:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-wiccans-get-over-yourselves/499968/248 "2009-06-23T05:11:56Z")

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> [@devilsknew](#):
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> Pretty clever… but you seem to have given this girl life, perhaps you’re Big Pimpin’?

I take 'em out tha 'hood, keep ‘em lookin’ good. 😉

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**Author:** ![Leiko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Leiko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leiko)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2009, 5:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-wiccans-get-over-yourselves/499968/249 "2009-06-23T05:25:12Z")

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> [@RickJay](#):
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> The bit about how REAL Wiccans are all secret-like and “oathbound.” Suuuuure. Do you have ID cards or an international registry?

Most, though not all, of the details of ritual practices of British Traditional Wicca are oathbound. I don’t see why you think ID cards or registry have anything to do with passing traditions down in a limited private fashion.

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2009, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-wiccans-get-over-yourselves/499968/250 "2009-06-23T14:26:52Z")

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Oathbound?

What is this, the Hyborian Age? Are we going to be sieging Castle Greyskull or something? Do I need to find the Sacred Amulet of Sinbad to join this discussion?

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2009, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-wiccans-get-over-yourselves/499968/251 "2009-06-23T14:44:54Z")

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> [@Covered\_In\_Bees](#):
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> I think this thread just goes to show that I either managed to get onto everyone’s ignore lists in a very short amount of time or no one here appreciates cheesecake in the same manner that I do.
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> Either way I am a sad kitten that my cheesecake goes unnoticed.
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> ☹

None of those chicks are hot.

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**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2009, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-wiccans-get-over-yourselves/499968/252 "2009-06-23T15:56:11Z")

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> [@Covered\_In\_Bees](#):
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> I think this thread just goes to show that I either managed to get onto everyone’s ignore lists in a very short amount of time or no one here appreciates cheesecake in the same manner that I do.

Sorry, **Bees!** , I’m a girl who likes boys. Boobs do nuffin’ for me.

> [@Jack\_Batty](#):
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> What is this, the Hyborian Age? Are we going to be sieging Castle Greyskull or something? Do I need to find the Sacred Amulet of Sinbad to join this discussion?

Forsooth, young adventurer! Thou hast verily stumbled into ye very heart of eldritch magicks! Beware, lest thee be undone by these warlocks and witchkind!

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**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2009, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-wiccans-get-over-yourselves/499968/253 "2009-06-23T16:04:21Z")

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> [@Covered\_In\_Bees](#):
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> Can we go back to talking about banging **[hot](http://pix.motivatedphotos.com/2008/6/21/633496345923873040-hot-redheads.jpg)** **[redheads](http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h245/atlantacyclist8/DagmarMidcap1.jpg)**?
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> I’d like to offer **[Exhibit 1](http://oh-snap.us/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/alyson-hannigan.jpg)**, **[Exhibit 2](http://lios.apana.org.au/~mkaree/kari_byron_shark_bikini.jpg)**, and **[Exhibit 3](http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g316/PurpleLava/06-kari_byron_shark_bikini_radio_sm.jpg)** as to why we should go back to talking about them.
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> All opposed?

I think ‘hot’ and ‘exhibit 3’ are hot. The rest are meh.

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**Author:** ![Indistinguishable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/90ced4/32.png) [@Indistinguishable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Indistinguishable)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2009, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-wiccans-get-over-yourselves/499968/254 "2009-06-23T18:26:16Z")

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I genuine feel nearly the exact opposite (“redheads” and “exhibit 1” are attractive, “hot” and “exhibit 3” are meh, and “exhibit 2” at least seems a little better than “exhibit 3”). Though I don’t know if I’d use the exact word “hot” for these photos. But whatever.

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**Author:** ![Ichini\_Sanshigo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/d9b06d/32.png) [@Ichini\_Sanshigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ichini_Sanshigo)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2009, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-wiccans-get-over-yourselves/499968/255 "2009-06-23T19:08:22Z")

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Um, aren’t Exhibit 2 and 3 the same person?

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**Author:** ![Indistinguishable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/90ced4/32.png) [@Indistinguishable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Indistinguishable)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2009, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-wiccans-get-over-yourselves/499968/256 "2009-06-23T19:09:27Z")

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Yes. I just like the one photo a little better. Though I’m not really that into either.

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**Author:** ![Covered\_In\_Bees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7ab992/32.png) [@Covered\_In\_Bees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Covered_In_Bees)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2009, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-wiccans-get-over-yourselves/499968/257 "2009-06-23T20:16:24Z")

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I see that some of you are beyond saving if the general feeling of those pics is “meh”. I can understand the Kari pics being called meh, as they aren’t the most flattering of pictures, but the rest, come on! 😕

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2009, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-wiccans-get-over-yourselves/499968/258 "2009-06-23T20:41:00Z")

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> [@Leiko](#):
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> Most, though not all, of the details of ritual practices of British Traditional Wicca are oathbound. I don’t see why you think ID cards or registry have anything to do with passing traditions down in a limited private fashion.

So it’s like Scientology but without the celebrities?

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**Author:** ![Leiko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Leiko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leiko)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2009, 7:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-wiccans-get-over-yourselves/499968/259 "2009-06-24T07:09:03Z")

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> [@RickJay](#):
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> So it’s like Scientology but without the celebrities?

Well, not really, as in Scientology you get the “secrets” (which are available across the internet, Lord Xenu and all) in exchange for paying the Church of Scientology absurd amounts of money.

This is not the case in Wicca- priest and priestesses aren’t supposed to charge for training and initiation (although I’d hazard a guess and say they’re probably allowed to ask the initiate to help cover materials costs, but that bit is only a guess) or for participation in events.

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**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2009, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-wiccans-get-over-yourselves/499968/260 "2009-06-24T15:53:00Z")

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Money isn’t the only way of paying for things. Time can also be an investment.

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