# Dear Wiccans: get over yourselves **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 16, 2009, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-wiccans-get-over-yourselves/499968 "2009-06-16T17:55:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Indistinguishable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/90ced4/32.png) [@Indistinguishable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Indistinguishable)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2009, 5:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-wiccans-get-over-yourselves/499968/81 "2009-06-17T05:56:59Z")
> [@mswas](#): > > I believe in it, mock me all you want. 😉 Why do you believe in it? ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2009, 6:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-wiccans-get-over-yourselves/499968/82 "2009-06-17T06:02:30Z")
> [@Una\_Persson](#): > > FYI, the OED places magick with a “k” much earlier than Crowley. Crowley did popularize it. In most cases I can find it has an “e” on the end, so I guess if you want to be technical…he probably still didn’t invent it. That was before spelling was discovered, though, so… ---
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2009, 6:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-wiccans-get-over-yourselves/499968/83 "2009-06-17T06:11:58Z")
> [@Kimmy\_Gibbler](#): > > What?! “Majique” has all the sophistication of the Champagne Room at T’s Gold Lounge. That’s what I was thinking. ---
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2009, 6:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-wiccans-get-over-yourselves/499968/84 "2009-06-17T06:22:24Z")
> [@Indistinguishable](#): > > Why do you believe in it? I believe that there is an aspect of will that shapes reality. It can be seen in its obvious forms like if I dig a hole there is a hole there, but there are also subtler forms that some claim as ‘supernatural’ but I think are not supernatural at all, but I would call them magick because I have no sufficient explanation. Like, why do people turn around when you stare at the back of their heads? ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2009, 7:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-wiccans-get-over-yourselves/499968/85 "2009-06-17T07:14:19Z")
> [@mswas](#): > > Like, why do people turn around when you stare at the back of their heads? Because they also turn around when you don’t; you just don’t seen them do it because you aren’t looking. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2009, 8:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-wiccans-get-over-yourselves/499968/86 "2009-06-17T08:27:29Z")
> [@mswas](#): > > I scoff at people who scoff at everyone who scoffs at everyone else when the scoffing is not reasonable unless it’s a Thursday when all scoffing is justified. I scoff at your knowledge of scoffing, because everyone knows that TUESDAY is scoffing day. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2009, 8:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-wiccans-get-over-yourselves/499968/87 "2009-06-17T08:29:33Z")
But I do enjoy laughing at the just-converted Wiccan girls who cry about “the burning times”. Yeah, yeah, your people. Sure they were. And we’re coming after you next. Have you strapped to a pole and licking fire any minute now. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2009, 9:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-wiccans-get-over-yourselves/499968/88 "2009-06-17T09:16:12Z")
So this entire thread started because someone has sour grapes? Why are the poor Wiccans getting ripped on (not that they’re _not_ pathetic), and not the OP (more), if he’s such a loser he can’t even get a “deluded” loser to sleep with him? ---
**Author:** ![Bacon\_Salt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/65b543/32.png) [@Bacon\_Salt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bacon_Salt)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2009, 10:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-wiccans-get-over-yourselves/499968/89 "2009-06-17T10:57:51Z")
> [@Chimera](#): > > I scoff at your knowledge of scoffing, because everyone knows that TUESDAY is scoffing day. Tosch, shows what you know. They changed it to Thursday like three months ago. ---
**Author:** ![Eutychus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Eutychus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eutychus)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2009, 12:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-wiccans-get-over-yourselves/499968/90 "2009-06-17T12:46:09Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > Because they also turn around when you don’t; you just don’t seen them do it because you aren’t looking. And very often, they don’t turn around when you stare at the back of their heads. ---
**Author:** ![FriarTed](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/friarted/32/1052_2.png) [@FriarTed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FriarTed)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2009, 12:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-wiccans-get-over-yourselves/499968/91 "2009-06-17T12:48:02Z")
> [@mswas](#): > > Fuck that, just read up on Beltaine and see if she wants to celebrate it with you. 😉 I recommend getting the CD soundtrack to THE WICKER MAN (the 1970s one- the GOOD one!) Make sure it has ‘Gently Johnny’ and ‘Willow’s Song’ on it. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Angel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d26b3c/32.png) [@Johnny\_Angel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Angel)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2009, 1:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-wiccans-get-over-yourselves/499968/92 "2009-06-17T13:01:29Z")
So, it’s: 1. Magic, where something observable happens, and they admit it’s bullshit. 2. Magick, where nothing happens and they tell you it’s real, though when you pin them down, they’re using a special sense of the term ‘real’ where it actually means ‘imaginary.’ 3. Majique, who does lap dances and is putting herself through college. ---
**Author:** ![Angel\_of\_the\_Lord](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/angel_of_the_lord/32/2949_2.png) [@Angel\_of\_the\_Lord](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Angel_of_the_Lord)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2009, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-wiccans-get-over-yourselves/499968/93 "2009-06-17T14:22:28Z")
**Johnny** , I’ll take a dash of #1, hold the #2, and a whole lotta #3. ---
**Author:** ![smiling\_bandit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9a140/32.png) [@smiling\_bandit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smiling_bandit)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2009, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-wiccans-get-over-yourselves/499968/94 "2009-06-17T14:26:57Z")
What about “Mhahjickque” ? Edited: Oh, yeah, forgot something. IN reference to the first page: You know, it’s not so much _having_ the Bible up the ass, it’s getting it up there. You have to shove and shove, and it takes all day and a lot of asprin. And God help you if it starts falling out before Sunday next. ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2009, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-wiccans-get-over-yourselves/499968/95 "2009-06-17T14:34:39Z")
> [@mswas](#): > > Right, you are scoffing at an accepted usage of a term amongst a particular subculture. Lots of people, millions in fact use ‘Magick’ with a K to differentiate it from card tricks. If you have a problem with that the problem is on your end. Hey, I’ve already said that I’ll stop scoffing as soon as they can prove it _actually does something_. Otherwise, I stick by my right to consider them ridiculous and pretentious. > [@FriarTed](#): > > THE WICKER MAN (the 1970s one- the GOOD one!) Nope, sorry. Any movie where Nicholas Cage punches women in the face and screams, “MY LEEEEGS!!!” is, by definition, “the good one.” ---
**Author:** ![buttonjockey308](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bcef8e/32.png) [@buttonjockey308](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/buttonjockey308)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2009, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-wiccans-get-over-yourselves/499968/96 "2009-06-17T14:50:48Z")
> [@Malthus](#): > > More like attempted stroking of broads. 😛 WIN! ---
**Author:** ![Agent\_Foxtrot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc29f/32.png) [@Agent\_Foxtrot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Agent_Foxtrot)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2009, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-wiccans-get-over-yourselves/499968/97 "2009-06-17T15:31:21Z")
I’m sorry, I try to be as open-minded as possible with others’ beliefs, but I just can’t swallow Wicca. No Wiccan has ever adequately described to me what they _actually believe in_, other than throwing the usual terms (Mother Goddess, Druids, Earth) at me and hoping I’ll change the subject. Have you noticed that pretty much every self-described Wiccan is a social outcast? It seems to me that Wicca is an easy “religion” to believe in because there are no clearly defined rules and you get to do pretty much whatever you want. Not to mention Wiccan guys use it as an excuse to get Wiccan girls naked during Beltaine. :rolleyes: I gotta admit, though, I agree with **mswas** … the girls are too cute for their own good. ---
**Author:** ![Eutychus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Eutychus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eutychus)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2009, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-wiccans-get-over-yourselves/499968/98 "2009-06-17T15:36:38Z")
> [@Agent\_Foxtrot](#): > > I gotta admit, though, I agree with **mswas** … the girls are too cute for their own good. I have to disagree with this to an extent; I think we’re dealing with a Hollywoodized stereotype here. I was involved with a Wiccan group in upstate New York for a short time. Before I had met most of the group I asked the obvious question “Do you do your rituals skyclad?” Her answer was “Trust me … most of us you wouldn’t WANT to see naked!” ---
**Author:** ![Kolga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e56c9b/32.png) [@Kolga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolga)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2009, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-wiccans-get-over-yourselves/499968/99 "2009-06-17T15:39:49Z")
> [@Agent\_Foxtrot](#): > > Have you noticed that pretty much every self-described Wiccan is a social outcast? :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Khadaji](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Khadaji](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Khadaji)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2009, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-wiccans-get-over-yourselves/499968/100 "2009-06-17T15:41:28Z")
Hmmmmm. Cute girls you say? I may have to look up a local chapter. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-wiccans-get-over-yourselves/499968.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-wiccans-get-over-yourselves/499968.md?page=6)