# Dear Wiccans: get over yourselves **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 16, 2009, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-wiccans-get-over-yourselves/499968 "2009-06-16T17:55:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2009, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-wiccans-get-over-yourselves/499968/141 "2009-06-17T22:21:19Z")
> [@mswas](#): > > I’m not talking about X-Men like powers, a lot of people talk about this experience. They talk about being able to feel people staring at them. I’m talking about something normal. Lots of people used to think the sun revolved around the earth. ---
**Author:** ![Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47c2d/32.png) [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffy_the_Elephant_Shrew)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2009, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-wiccans-get-over-yourselves/499968/142 "2009-06-17T22:57:50Z")
> [@Irishman](#): > > But she left out one important incorrect detail - nobody in Salem was burned at the stake. It’s true. I looked it up on Wiccapedia. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2009, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-wiccans-get-over-yourselves/499968/143 "2009-06-17T23:03:08Z")
> [@smiling\_bandit](#): > > This is perhaps very unfortunate… for you. You are not the first people to be called witches, and have nothing to do with actual, historical witchcraft, either. Your religion, and I use the term in its most perjorative sense and loosest sense, got started by some bored English chits who wanted to play around and pretend they were important. It was popularized by some British dude who didn’t believe a word of it so he could sell some books. Your entire theology is a mash of arbitrarily picked beliefs from random celtic groups, along with a healthy dose of stuff you claim they believed when they had nothing of the kind,m and would probably have killed you for fun. :dubious: SFW?! In the words of [the Reverend Dr. Dr. Mr. M.D. David N. Meyer II, Pope of New York City, Idaho. and the Great Pacific Northwest](http://www.subgenius.com/bigfist/answers/articles/X0048_Re__Interview_w_Pope.html): "You do not use your **mind** to think about your **religion!"** ---
**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2009, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-wiccans-get-over-yourselves/499968/144 "2009-06-17T23:36:21Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > “He.” And while that’s a great comic, I still maintain that the best _Something Positive_ ever was [the first one](http://www.somethingpositive.net/sp12192001.shtml). Eek! ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2009, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-wiccans-get-over-yourselves/499968/145 "2009-06-18T00:10:24Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > And Kimmy, I do have a physical reaction akin to nausea when I see the word “magick.” No, you don’t. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2009, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-wiccans-get-over-yourselves/499968/146 "2009-06-18T00:35:23Z")
Well, like the words of the thread title, if you have a physical reaction to the word “magick”, you need to **get over yourself**. ---
**Author:** ![Leiko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Leiko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leiko)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2009, 4:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-wiccans-get-over-yourselves/499968/147 "2009-06-18T04:36:09Z")
> [@Agent\_Foxtrot](#): > > I’m sorry, I try to be as open-minded as possible with others’ beliefs, but I just can’t swallow Wicca. No Wiccan has ever adequately described to me what they _actually believe in_, other than throwing the usual terms (Mother Goddess, Druids, Earth) at me and hoping I’ll change the subject. Have you noticed that pretty much every self-described Wiccan is a social outcast? > > It seems to me that Wicca is an easy “religion” to believe in because there are no clearly defined rules and you get to do pretty much whatever you want. Not to mention Wiccan guys use it as an excuse to get Wiccan girls naked during Beltaine. :rolleyes: > > I gotta admit, though, I agree with **mswas** … the girls are too cute for their own good. That’s because most of the people who claim to be Wiccan aren’t- they’re just generically Neo-Pagan- and the ones who are truly Wiccan can’t reveal many specifics because a lot of the rituals and such are oathbound. Generic Neo-Paganism, on the other hand, is one big ball of “no clearly defined rules” and naked chicks. Easy way to tell the difference: If they’re under 18 or they say they worship any god or goddess whose name you recognize, they’re not actually a Wiccan. ---
**Author:** ![friedo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8edcca/32.png) [@friedo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/friedo)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2009, 5:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-wiccans-get-over-yourselves/499968/148 "2009-06-18T05:26:47Z")
> [@Mr.Miskatonic](#): > > It is time to link to the [BEST SOMETHING POSITIVE COMIC EVAR!](http://www.somethingpositive.net/sp04242002.shtml) > > That is all. Jesus Fuckballs. What kind of asshole puts an entire paragraph of tiny-printed bullshit in each dialogue bubble? Don’t these people know that comics are for imbeciles who can’t read? I shouldn’t feel like I just got through Hemingway just to reach a punchline. ---
**Author:** ![aldiboronti](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc348/32.png) [@aldiboronti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aldiboronti)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2009, 10:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-wiccans-get-over-yourselves/499968/149 "2009-06-18T10:35:31Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > Not a good analogy. Americans dropped the “u” in an effort to distinguish ourselves from our Former Overseas Oppressors. Nothing to do with differentiating yourselves from us English oppressors. It’s down to Noah Webster who was a keen advocate of Spelling Reform, not for political reasons but because he genuinely believed in simplified spelling (and we’ve had many of those this side of the Atlantic too, Shaw most notably). Some of his reforms caught on in the US, most didn’t. ---
**Author:** ![smiling\_bandit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9a140/32.png) [@smiling\_bandit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smiling_bandit)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2009, 12:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-wiccans-get-over-yourselves/499968/150 "2009-06-18T12:18:01Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > :dubious: SFW?! > > In the words of [the Reverend Dr. Dr. Mr. M.D. David N. Meyer II, Pope of New York City, Idaho. and the Great Pacific Northwest](http://www.subgenius.com/bigfist/answers/articles/X0048_Re__Interview_w_Pope.html): "You do not use your **mind** to think about your **religion!"** Sorry mate, I’m Catholic. We started thinking and never stopped. ---
**Author:** ![FriarTed](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/friarted/32/1052_2.png) [@FriarTed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FriarTed)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2009, 12:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-wiccans-get-over-yourselves/499968/151 "2009-06-18T12:39:42Z")
> [@friedo](#): > > Jesus Fuckballs. What kind of asshole puts an entire paragraph of tiny-printed bullshit in each dialogue bubble? Don’t these people know that comics are for imbeciles who can’t read? I shouldn’t feel like I just got through Hemingway just to reach a punchline. Sometimes, you just can’t abbreviate a good rant. But he forgot to mention that THERE WERE NO WITCH-BURNINGS IN SALEM!!! _froths & swoons_ ---
**Author:** ![Eutychus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Eutychus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eutychus)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2009, 12:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-wiccans-get-over-yourselves/499968/152 "2009-06-18T12:45:35Z")
> [@FriarTed](#): > > Sometimes, you just can’t abbreviate a good rant. But he forgot to mention that THERE WERE NO WITCH-BURNINGS IN SALEM!!! _froths & swoons_ Frothing and swooning? He’s a witch!!! ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2009, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-wiccans-get-over-yourselves/499968/153 "2009-06-18T14:52:27Z")
> [@Lord\_Ashtar](#): > > No, you don’t. Yes, I do. I get embarassed on the behalf of people who use it. I squirm inside. > [@Chimera](#): > > Well, like the words of the thread title, if you have a physical reaction to the word “magick”, you need to **get over yourself**. I never said I wasn’t arrogant and judgemental. But they’re saying they can work magick, and all I ask for return for me not scoffing at their stupid word is proof that it’s anything more than make-believe. There’s nothing to “get over” there. > [@smiling\_bandit](#): > > Sorry mate, I’m Catholic. We started thinking and never stopped. Ahaha. Ahaha. Ahahahahaha. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Miskatonic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.miskatonic/32/310_2.png) [@Mr.Miskatonic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Miskatonic)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2009, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-wiccans-get-over-yourselves/499968/154 "2009-06-18T15:03:54Z")
> [@friedo](#): > > Jesus Fuckballs. What kind of asshole puts an entire paragraph of tiny-printed bullshit in each dialogue bubble? Don’t these people know that comics are for imbeciles who can’t read? I shouldn’t feel like I just got through Hemingway just to reach a punchline. Thank you, John Solomon. ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2009, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-wiccans-get-over-yourselves/499968/155 "2009-06-18T15:40:14Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > But they’re saying they can work magick, and all I ask for return for me not scoffing at their stupid word is proof that it’s anything more than make-believe. There’s nothing to “get over” there. You need to get over the fact that they are under no obligation to prove anything to you. Besides, I’m pretty sure most of them will be able to handle your scoffing, at least the Wiccans I know would. You think they don’t know that many people already think they’re loony because they call themselves witches and “cast spells”? ---
**Author:** ![Kimmy\_Gibbler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Kimmy\_Gibbler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimmy_Gibbler)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2009, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-wiccans-get-over-yourselves/499968/156 "2009-06-18T15:40:48Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > I never said I wasn’t arrogant and judgemental. But they’re saying they can work magick, and all I ask for return for me not scoffing at their stupid word is proof that it’s anything more than make-believe. There’s nothing to “get over” there. There’s only one “e” in “judgmental.” BARF! ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2009, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-wiccans-get-over-yourselves/499968/157 "2009-06-18T16:11:22Z")
> [@Lord\_Ashtar](#): > > You need to get over the fact that they are under no obligation to prove anything to you. Besides, I’m pretty sure most of them will be able to handle your scoffing, at least the Wiccans I know would. You think they don’t know that many people already think they’re loony because they call themselves witches and “cast spells”? I didn’t say \*they \*had to stop calling it magick, I said \*I’d \*stop scoffing when they proved anything. If they don’t mind my scoffing, then they clearly have no reason to prove anything, do they? No need to go all butthurt on behalf of people you think aren’t going to be offended… Unless you think I actually have a reason to be embarassed on their behalf. > [@Kimmy\_Gibbler](#): > > There’s only one “e” in “judgmental.” BARF! WTB a browser with inline spellcheck. I can’t use anything but IE at work, and it blows. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2009, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-wiccans-get-over-yourselves/499968/158 "2009-06-18T16:14:19Z")
> [@Kimmy\_Gibbler](#): > > There’s only one “e” in “judgmental.” BARF! Depends on what country you’re in. ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2009, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-wiccans-get-over-yourselves/499968/159 "2009-06-18T16:18:09Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > No need to go all butthurt on behalf of people you think aren’t going to be offended… Unless you think I actually have a reason to be embarassed on their behalf. From just a few posts earlier… > [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > Yes, I do. I get embarassed on the behalf of people who use it. I squirm inside. (Emphasis mine) So why do you get embarrassed on their behalf? ---
**Author:** ![Kimmy\_Gibbler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Kimmy\_Gibbler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimmy_Gibbler)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2009, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-wiccans-get-over-yourselves/499968/160 "2009-06-18T16:21:03Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > Depends on what country you’re in. I’m the good ole’ U.S. of A., chief. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-wiccans-get-over-yourselves/499968.md?page=7) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-wiccans-get-over-yourselves/499968.md?page=9)