# Dear Zoe--you're an idiot, not a detective. Now shut the hell up.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-zoe-youre-an-idiot-not-a-detective-now-shut-the-hell-up/491259>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 30, 2009, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-zoe-youre-an-idiot-not-a-detective-now-shut-the-hell-up/491259 "2009-03-30T04:23:38Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 13\
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**Author:** ![you\_with\_the\_face](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/ecccb3/32.png) [@you\_with\_the\_face](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/you_with_the_face)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2009, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-zoe-youre-an-idiot-not-a-detective-now-shut-the-hell-up/491259/281 "2009-04-04T14:24:25Z")

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> [@AHunter3](#):
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> I’m not ready to make any commentary on the “outing people” thing, but w/regards to the ‘one drop of blood’ thing, it seems pretty clear to me that she took initial objection to the language used, and the image that it conjures up of tests being done to literally discern as much as one drop of blood. \*\* Then everyone jumped all over her, “Silly **Zoe** , that’s obviously hyperbole”, as if she did not realize that. \*\*

I’m not seeing a problem with that response, particularly since she was quite belligerent when she was making her crazy-town objection. The one drop rule was not even the subject of that thread; she just barged in the room to contest a point that no one was even making just to pick a fight with me and **jsgoddess**.

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> ANALOGY —someone alleges that the RIAA will come after you for copyright violation if you host even one individual note’s worth of one of their songs for download. This statement becomes so often quoted that the RIAA policy even becomes nicknamed the “One Note Rule” in the popular consciousness. Many decades later, in Great Debates, someone calls bullshit and says “Aww cmon that’s just stupid and irritates the hell out of me, they couldn’t even prove it was one of their songs based on one freaking note!”. **So is everyone going to roll their eyes and say “WTF, are you so stupid you actually thought that the One Note Rule meant they would sue for hosting an MP3 of just one freaking note, how dense you are! It’s just CALLED that!”**

Yes! Especially if that person should damn well know better since they are always talking about how they were on the frontlines of the anti-RIAA struggle since the days of Napster. Which is exactly how **Zoe** is. I mean, come on! To be that ignorant of what the one drop rule means would make her a genuine idiot, thus validating the title of this thread.

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**Author:** ![Sarahfeena](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sarahfeena/32/519_2.png) [@Sarahfeena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sarahfeena)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2009, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-zoe-youre-an-idiot-not-a-detective-now-shut-the-hell-up/491259/282 "2009-04-04T14:33:41Z")

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> [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](#):
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> Of course I’m not violating confidentiality, or HIPAA.
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> But different people frequently say I am.
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> It’s better to not discuss it than get a bad reputation, even if the reputation is not deserved. At least as regards the realm of medical ethics, which is very important to me.

I don’t blame you…the next thing you know, someone might accuse you of not _actually_ being a doctor.

I always wonder how people think med students would learn to be doctors without hearing case studies!

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2009, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-zoe-youre-an-idiot-not-a-detective-now-shut-the-hell-up/491259/283 "2009-04-04T15:03:14Z")

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Is there a term for somebody who makes a ridiculous or insane statement, but absolutely will not back down from it, no matter how much logic, evidence and reason is thrown in their face demonstrating its implausibility?

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**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2009, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-zoe-youre-an-idiot-not-a-detective-now-shut-the-hell-up/491259/284 "2009-04-04T15:04:30Z")

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> [@Knowed\_Out](#):
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> Is there a term for somebody who makes a ridiculous or insane statement, but absolutely will not back down from it, no matter how much logic, evidence and reason is thrown in their face demonstrating its implausibility?

**kanicbird**.

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**Author:** ![pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a9a28c/32.png) [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pseudotriton_ruber_ruber)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2009, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-zoe-youre-an-idiot-not-a-detective-now-shut-the-hell-up/491259/285 "2009-04-04T15:16:11Z")

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> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#):
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> **kanicbird**.

Pile on!

Before we divert to the great k-bird, however, I have one remark I’ve been sitting for days: “ **Zoe** is no detective, but she will always be a dick.”

The thing I like most about the k-bird is when some relative newcomer here strikes up a rapport with him, little realizing how this marks the newbie as a potential nutjob. That’s damned funny to watch. You can almost see the look on K-Bird’s new pal’s face as he sputters, “Huh? Wha? I thought you people liked me…why am I being mistreated all of a sudden? Wha’d I do?”

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**Author:** ![waterj2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/858c86/32.png) [@waterj2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/waterj2)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2009, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-zoe-youre-an-idiot-not-a-detective-now-shut-the-hell-up/491259/286 "2009-04-04T18:03:19Z")

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> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#):
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> **kanicbird**.

Mostly, but to truly be like **kanicbird** you need a healthy dose of “God told me so” thrown in.

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**Author:** ![descamisado](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e480ec/32.png) [@descamisado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/descamisado)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2009, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-zoe-youre-an-idiot-not-a-detective-now-shut-the-hell-up/491259/287 "2009-04-04T18:40:41Z")

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> [@Knowed\_Out](#):
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> Is there a term for somebody who makes a ridiculous or insane statement, but absolutely will not back down from it, no matter how much logic, evidence and reason is thrown in their face demonstrating its implausibility?

I thought it had been decided that it was to be “gonzo,” especially since it carries with a sense of being “all in.”

gon·zo (gnz)  
adj. Slang

1. Using an exaggerated, highly subjective style, especially in journalism: “a hyperkinetic, gonzo version of Graham Greene” New Yorker.
2. Bizarre; unconventional.

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**Author:** ![Antinor01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecae2f/32.png) [@Antinor01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Antinor01)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2009, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-zoe-youre-an-idiot-not-a-detective-now-shut-the-hell-up/491259/288 "2009-04-04T18:46:31Z")

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> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#):
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> Gods of Earth & Air!
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> Gods … of… Earth…Air… and FIRE!

You forgot Water. Now you’re really screwed.

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**Author:** ![Hakuna\_Matata](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a88e4f/32.png) [@Hakuna\_Matata](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hakuna_Matata)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2009, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-zoe-youre-an-idiot-not-a-detective-now-shut-the-hell-up/491259/289 "2009-04-04T18:49:40Z")

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> [@Knowed\_Out](#):
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> Is there a term for somebody who makes a ridiculous or insane statement, but absolutely will not back down from it, no matter how much logic, evidence and reason is thrown in their face demonstrating its implausibility?

You could go with **kagonzospring**

Springs1 is now banned–but that was one crazy chick  
gonzo..well I don’t know what to say about him, other then he is very perplexing  
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kanicbird—well he makes the first two seem normal

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2009, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-zoe-youre-an-idiot-not-a-detective-now-shut-the-hell-up/491259/290 "2009-04-04T18:53:52Z")

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> [@Antinor01](#):
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> You forgot Water. Now you’re really screwed.

And Heart. How are we supposed to summon Captain Planet now?

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**Author:** ![Antinor01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecae2f/32.png) [@Antinor01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Antinor01)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2009, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-zoe-youre-an-idiot-not-a-detective-now-shut-the-hell-up/491259/291 "2009-04-04T18:59:50Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> And Heart. How are we supposed to summon Captain Planet now?

Why don’t we just compromise and form Optimus Prime? That should take care of it.

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**Author:** ![Grumman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/43a26b/32.png) [@Grumman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grumman)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2009, 6:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-zoe-youre-an-idiot-not-a-detective-now-shut-the-hell-up/491259/292 "2009-04-05T06:06:37Z")

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> [@Antinor01](#):
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> Why don’t we just compromise and form Optimus Prime? That should take care of it.

You mean Devastator(!)?

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2009, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-zoe-youre-an-idiot-not-a-detective-now-shut-the-hell-up/491259/293 "2009-04-05T18:52:12Z")

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> [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](#):
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> Of course I’m not violating confidentiality, or HIPAA.
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> But different people frequently say I am.
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> It’s better to not discuss it than get a bad reputation, even if the reputation is not deserved. At least as regards the realm of medical ethics, which is very important to me.

So, no more bagel dog stories? Damn. (Sorry, I understand-I just love hearing about your experiences.)

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