# Dear Zoe--you're an idiot, not a detective. Now shut the hell up.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-zoe-youre-an-idiot-not-a-detective-now-shut-the-hell-up/491259>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 30, 2009, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-zoe-youre-an-idiot-not-a-detective-now-shut-the-hell-up/491259 "2009-03-30T04:23:38Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![VunderBob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/839c29/32.png) [@VunderBob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VunderBob)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2009, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-zoe-youre-an-idiot-not-a-detective-now-shut-the-hell-up/491259/41 "2009-03-30T15:12:55Z")

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> [@Fenris](#):
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> That’s it: you’re on ZOE’S LIST!

But, but, but… I wanted on! It’s not faaa-yyyyer!

I just submitted a random chunk of my fire/rescue tales that the Mumpers read to GenderGenie, and it scored me as Female: 807, Male 725. I’m an obvious dude, and haven’t done one thing to obfuscate the issue that I know of. Pitting people because of percieved gender as rated by a tool of dubious value, that’s just special.

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**Author:** ![Sophistry\_and\_Illusion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b3f665/32.png) [@Sophistry\_and\_Illusion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sophistry_and_Illusion)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2009, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-zoe-youre-an-idiot-not-a-detective-now-shut-the-hell-up/491259/42 "2009-03-30T15:14:33Z")

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> [@acsenray](#):
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> Isn’t “gay libertine” redundant?

Don’t be dense; there are plenty of non-gay Iberians. It’s actually a pretty macho culture, so they frown on teh gay.

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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2009, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-zoe-youre-an-idiot-not-a-detective-now-shut-the-hell-up/491259/43 "2009-03-30T15:23:14Z")

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Are you sure? Because all the Hibernians I’ve met prefer potato-based foods to corn chips – I don’t see how Ireland could have a nacho culture.

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2009, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-zoe-youre-an-idiot-not-a-detective-now-shut-the-hell-up/491259/44 "2009-03-30T15:33:06Z")

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> [@Lust4Life](#):
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> If you’re talking to me then you’ve totally lost me,if you’re not then you’ve still lost me.

It was a response to post #10 with a reference to my post #9. It had nothing to do with you. I’ll take you at your word when you say you’re a lion tamer. But I’ll be watching you.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2009, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-zoe-youre-an-idiot-not-a-detective-now-shut-the-hell-up/491259/45 "2009-03-30T15:38:04Z")

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Wait, wait, wait. You mean there are people… who tell lies… on the _internet_?!

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**Author:** ![Duke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e8c25b/32.png) [@Duke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duke)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2009, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-zoe-youre-an-idiot-not-a-detective-now-shut-the-hell-up/491259/46 "2009-03-30T15:39:42Z")

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> [@Fenris](#):
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> Apparently I’m the hairiest damned woman outside of a circus tent. ]

Get yourself one of those Venus razors, lady.

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**Author:** ![Litoris](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9f8e36/32.png) [@Litoris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Litoris)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2009, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-zoe-youre-an-idiot-not-a-detective-now-shut-the-hell-up/491259/47 "2009-03-30T15:41:49Z")

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> [@BlankSlate](#):
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> Just put a chunk of text into the [Gender Genie.](http://bookblog.net/gender/genie.php)
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> No, I don’t think it’s all that accurate.

Those always crack me up – call me male every single time. Something about not typing “I” every other word, methinks!

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**Author:** ![Khadaji](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Khadaji](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Khadaji)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2009, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-zoe-youre-an-idiot-not-a-detective-now-shut-the-hell-up/491259/48 "2009-03-30T15:43:20Z")

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> [@fachverwirrt](#):
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> Um, I’m pretty sure he’s a gay, white Liberian.

You mean he _isn’t_ a gay white Librarian?

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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2009, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-zoe-youre-an-idiot-not-a-detective-now-shut-the-hell-up/491259/49 "2009-03-30T15:45:12Z")

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“The” and “a” are male keywords? WTF?

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**Author:** ![Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sleeps_With_Butterflies)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2009, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-zoe-youre-an-idiot-not-a-detective-now-shut-the-hell-up/491259/50 "2009-03-30T15:48:17Z")

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Huh. I need to pay more attention because I had no idea Zoe was nuts.

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**Author:** ![Catamount](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/catamount/32/2840_2.png) [@Catamount](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Catamount)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2009, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-zoe-youre-an-idiot-not-a-detective-now-shut-the-hell-up/491259/51 "2009-03-30T15:49:19Z")

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> [@acsenray](#):
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> “The” and “a” are male keywords? WTF?

Yeah, I don’t get that either.

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2009, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-zoe-youre-an-idiot-not-a-detective-now-shut-the-hell-up/491259/52 "2009-03-30T15:56:48Z")

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You know how many times I’ve nearly started this thread?

I’m really sick of Psychic Girl Detective. I’ve said it to her numerous times and she ignores it so I bet this thread will have no impact.

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**Author:** ![Beadalin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3be4f8/32.png) [@Beadalin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beadalin)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2009, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-zoe-youre-an-idiot-not-a-detective-now-shut-the-hell-up/491259/53 "2009-03-30T15:59:37Z")

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Nevermind.

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**Author:** ![Litoris](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9f8e36/32.png) [@Litoris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Litoris)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2009, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-zoe-youre-an-idiot-not-a-detective-now-shut-the-hell-up/491259/54 "2009-03-30T16:00:11Z")

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> [@acsenray](#):
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> “The” and “a” are male keywords? WTF?

Yep – because men tend to be more logical and focused on the physical, whereas women are typically more emotional and focused on the intangible. That’s why I always fail my Turing…er, gender stereotype tests – I am more logical and emotionless than others of my gender.  
Words like “a” and “the” and “it” are tangible. Unless you’re a LOLCat, you can’t have “a happy” or “the sad.”

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**Author:** ![Projammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/projammer/32/559_2.png) [@Projammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Projammer)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2009, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-zoe-youre-an-idiot-not-a-detective-now-shut-the-hell-up/491259/55 "2009-03-30T16:15:03Z")

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> [@Khadaji](#):
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> You mean he _isn’t_ a gay white Librarian?

I get the impression that he’s a gay white libertarian librarian.

And while I wouldn’t be inclined to disbelieve him claiming Iberian heritage, I don’t believe that he will do so.

More likely he would have been a Hibernian, but now that they have been acquired by Capital One it would only be a historic data point.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2009, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-zoe-youre-an-idiot-not-a-detective-now-shut-the-hell-up/491259/56 "2009-03-30T16:25:57Z")

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> [@BlankSlate](#):
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> Just put a chunk of text into the [Gender Genie.](http://bookblog.net/gender/genie.php)
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> No, I don’t think it’s all that accurate.

Saccharine Christ, I’m _twice_ the woman I am a man!

It was _one time_ in the locker room, dammit, on “climb the rope” day, and I was _daydreaming_!

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**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2009, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-zoe-youre-an-idiot-not-a-detective-now-shut-the-hell-up/491259/57 "2009-03-30T16:26:17Z")

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Wait, Sampiro’s a Libran? When did we start giving head-space to astrology?

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2009, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-zoe-youre-an-idiot-not-a-detective-now-shut-the-hell-up/491259/58 "2009-03-30T16:28:27Z")

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All this time I thought he was a Lebanese.

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**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2009, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-zoe-youre-an-idiot-not-a-detective-now-shut-the-hell-up/491259/59 "2009-03-30T16:33:03Z")

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Really? **Sampiro** is suing **Zoe** for libel?

About damn time!

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**Author:** ![The\_Devil\_s\_Grandmother](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/74df32/32.png) [@The\_Devil\_s\_Grandmother](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Devil_s_Grandmother)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2009, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dear-zoe-youre-an-idiot-not-a-detective-now-shut-the-hell-up/491259/60 "2009-03-30T16:44:35Z")

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> Wait, wait, wait. You mean there are people… who tell lies… on the _internet_?!

[And even Miss Manners has heard of them!](http://www.buffalonews.com/opinion/columns/missmanners/story/622612.html)

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