# Dearest Eve

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dearest-eve/185239>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 29, 2003, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dearest-eve/185239 "2003-06-29T23:45:04Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Primaflora](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/898d66/32.png) [@Primaflora](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Primaflora)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2003, 6:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dearest-eve/185239/61 "2003-07-03T06:37:50Z")

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Nah, calling people who are being po-faced and humourless gits isn’t pointless. Up there on the high moral ground you like to occupy, it might seem pointless but I felt it had a point. Eve was being held to the standard of humour which Quasimodem and Zenster felt was appropriate. Those standards differ.

But so nice of you and TLD to drop in and critique my posts 😉

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**Author:** ![TheLoadedDog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/35a633/32.png) [@TheLoadedDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheLoadedDog)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2003, 6:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dearest-eve/185239/62 "2003-07-03T06:45:27Z")

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Aah ok. And here was I thinking you were considering the humourlessness an industrial issue. Good to see you’re willing to share.

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**Author:** ![Ice\_Wolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/dfb087/32.png) [@Ice\_Wolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ice_Wolf)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2003, 6:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dearest-eve/185239/63 "2003-07-03T06:46:12Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by Primaflora \*  
> \*\*Nah, calling people who are being po-faced and humourless gits isn’t pointless. Up there on the high moral ground you like to occupy, it might seem pointless but I felt it had a point. Eve was being held to the standard of humour which Quasimodem and Zenster felt was appropriate. Those standards differ.
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> But so nice of you and TLD to drop in and critique my posts 😉 \*\*

Your point is, I take it, that your sense of humour is different from theirs? Thanks for sharing that, **Primaflora**. Because “standards” differ, those you don’t agree with are “gits”?

Interesting.

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**Author:** ![Primaflora](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/898d66/32.png) [@Primaflora](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Primaflora)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2003, 6:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dearest-eve/185239/64 "2003-07-03T06:52:27Z")

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No, but those who attempt to control the expression of humour fall in my category of gits. YMMV. There’s humour here which I don’t find funny or I don’t find to be in the best of taste but I’d classify myself as a humourless git within that context if I started a pit thread to tell the person how tasteless they were.

If you’re feeling particularly persnickety you can probably do a search on my name and find posts where I’ve expressed my inner humourless git so I’ll save the hamsters and say that in advance.

Industrial issue? TLD, I’m not following what you mean. Do I want to?

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**Author:** ![TheLoadedDog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/35a633/32.png) [@TheLoadedDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheLoadedDog)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2003, 6:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dearest-eve/185239/65 "2003-07-03T06:56:05Z")

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Aah, my apologies. I was employing humour. Was having a friendly dig atcha, cobber, along the lines of somebody else’s being humourless is encroaching on your territory, which was why you seemed upset.

It’s a larf, innit?

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**Author:** ![Ice\_Wolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/dfb087/32.png) [@Ice\_Wolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ice_Wolf)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2003, 7:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dearest-eve/185239/66 "2003-07-03T07:01:57Z")

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> [@](#):
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> _Orig. by Primaflora_  
> …those who attempt to control the expression of humour …

Um … how so? Someone who comes up and says they, personally, find an expression or sentence or paragraph jarring and in their own opinion in bad taste, and suddenly they’re attempting to control the expression of humour?

Aren’t _you_ attempting to control their expression of opinion by calling them “humourless gits”?

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**Author:** ![Primaflora](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/898d66/32.png) [@Primaflora](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Primaflora)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2003, 7:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dearest-eve/185239/67 "2003-07-03T07:26:43Z")

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Goodness me, TLD. Humour was it now? A friendly dig at me?

Friendly? Were you labouring under the misapprehension that I would automatically think you were being friendly to me? I’m willing to acknowledge that you and IceWolf are having digs at me but let’s not pretend it’s in a friendly fashion.

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**Author:** ![kambuckta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/53a042/32.png) [@kambuckta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kambuckta)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2003, 7:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dearest-eve/185239/68 "2003-07-03T07:35:52Z")

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Who’s up for a beer you lot? My shout, provided you shut up the bitchin’, OK?

:rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2003, 7:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dearest-eve/185239/69 "2003-07-03T07:53:46Z")

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Goodness…it’s All-In Australia/New Zealand League Professional Wrestling!

Well, it _would_ be an interesting sport… 😛

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**Author:** ![TheLoadedDog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/35a633/32.png) [@TheLoadedDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheLoadedDog)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2003, 8:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dearest-eve/185239/70 "2003-07-03T08:00:41Z")

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Well, actually **Primaflora** , my first post was directed at everybody who had participated in the pile on against **Quasimodem**. I chose to quote a term you had posted, rather than somebody else’s, because it best summed up the position I wished to oppose. If I had wished to simply have a go at you for personal, non-SDMB reasons, I have other avenues available, and I would have done so before. In fact, being aware you might have viewed my taking an adversarial view in a Pit thread as a personal attack, I chose not to quote you directly. Not because you’re my favourite poster, but because you deserve that courtesy anyway. You’ll also see by my use of plural terms, my reply was directed at more than one person. In fact, if anybody would have reason to guess I was singling them out, it’d probably be **Slip Mahoney** , not you.

Well, I tried humour. I tried sarcasm. Both of those things seem to have whooshed you utterly. I will now keep this simple, and I will also no longer do you the courtesy of treating this thread at face value. You obviously are taking a broader view, judging by your uses of phrases like “the high moral ground you like to occupy”, so I am no doubt free to do the same.

You’re right about the “friendly dig”. I’ll explain it very slowly for you. I. Don’t. Like. You. It. Was. Sarcasm.

**Primaflora** , you have always struck me as a singularly bitter, morose, and sad individual. Your posts are characterised by their humourlessness to the point where you could bloody well trademark it. You are incredibly judgemental, and your overbearing air of superiority (esp. in any thread remotely to do with children) makes me want to puke.

Pillock.

Feel free to have the last word if you like. I won’t be replying. I’m off to have **kambuckta** ’s beer.

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**Author:** ![Primaflora](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/898d66/32.png) [@Primaflora](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Primaflora)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2003, 10:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dearest-eve/185239/71 "2003-07-03T10:41:38Z")

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Well ::shrug:: it’s mutual, mate. You’ve pretty much struck me as a pillock incapable of directly dealing with people when there’s an issue which could have been solved clearly by direct communication for a long time now. But I guess you’ve managed it now. Things are very clear.

Cheers.

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**Author:** ![TheLoadedDog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/35a633/32.png) [@TheLoadedDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheLoadedDog)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2003, 11:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dearest-eve/185239/72 "2003-07-03T11:03:21Z")

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Sorry, I just have to reply to add that I’m surprised you of all people can say that with a straight face. You are utterly shameless.

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**Author:** ![Primaflora](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/898d66/32.png) [@Primaflora](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Primaflora)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2003, 11:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dearest-eve/185239/73 "2003-07-03T11:18:04Z")

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So I’m guessing my triumphant return to the bosom of G’dope is out of the question now and in the future?

I’ll live, I’m sure.

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**Author:** ![TheLoadedDog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/35a633/32.png) [@TheLoadedDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheLoadedDog)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2003, 11:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dearest-eve/185239/74 "2003-07-03T11:28:44Z")

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That’s a cheap shot and doesn’t belong on the SDMB. You are free to post on G’Dope as long as you don’t break the G’Dope rules (again). The fact that you probably will choose not to is something I’m quite comfortable with though.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2003, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dearest-eve/185239/75 "2003-07-03T18:51:40Z")

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> \*Originally posted by TheLoadedDog \*  
> \*\*Yes, I guess this thread must indeed be dissapointing to some of the regular pitizens. **Quasimodem** voiced an opinion which he guessed would be unpopular. He did it politely, and with respect for the subject of the thread. Sorry guys, no trainwreck, eh? Maybe if you’re lucky, there’ll be a car accident outside your place this afternoon. You’ll be able to gawk at that instead.  
> \*\*

I love the irony of this statement juxtaposed with **TheLoadedDog** ’s later posts in this thread.

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**Author:** ![TheLoadedDog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/35a633/32.png) [@TheLoadedDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheLoadedDog)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2003, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dearest-eve/185239/76 "2003-07-03T19:40:41Z")

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Well mate, not being a Pit regular, I may be a bit rusty on the etiquette in here, but it wasn’t me who got personal or brought in off-board stuff in the first place. I tried to defend myself gently at first, but as the barbs kept getting fired at the same steady rate, I was compelled to crank up the defence a bit.

My own fault: every now and then I seem to forget why I don’t come to The Pit.

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**Author:** ![Ice\_Wolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/dfb087/32.png) [@Ice\_Wolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ice_Wolf)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2003, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dearest-eve/185239/77 "2003-07-03T20:36:19Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Miller \*  
> \*\*I love the irony of this statement juxtaposed with **TheLoadedDog** ’s later posts in this thread. \*\*

Come on, **Miller**. At that point, **TLD** was in a peacemaker role, while emphasising regard for both of the real sides to this thread in the first place – the comments made by **Eve** in other places, and the opinion of **Quasimodem**. He kept stuff as objective as possible, while the author of the phrase he quoted just got more miffed.

Yes, I used the word “stupid”, in respect of a judgemental attitude which I felt was out of place and as jarring to some as the statements criticised.

And then, other crap was dragged in. If you want to class anything from **TLD’s** posts as “ironic”, then also look further afield here. Start from **Primaflora’s** first post in this thread, and work your way down.

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**Author:** ![Arnold\_Winkelried](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Arnold\_Winkelried](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arnold_Winkelried)\
**Post date:** [July 4, 2003, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dearest-eve/185239/78 "2003-07-04T01:04:38Z")

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Isn’t it possible for SDMB posters to discuss a subject without dragging in all the emotional baggage from other threads? Let’s try and keep off-topic personal tiffs out of non-related discussions, OK?

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**Author:** ![SkipMagic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skipmagic/32/20706_2.png) [@SkipMagic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SkipMagic)\
**Post date:** [July 4, 2003, 10:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dearest-eve/185239/79 "2003-07-04T10:49:46Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by Zoe \*  
> \*\*Laaammmme… \*\*

You’re damned tootin’!

Or he is, at any rate. 😉

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**Author:** ![erislover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/71e660/32.png) [@erislover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/erislover)\
**Post date:** [July 4, 2003, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dearest-eve/185239/80 "2003-07-04T15:08:42Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by Arnold Winkelried \*  
> **Isn’t it possible for SDMB posters to discuss a subject without dragging in all the emotional baggage from other threads?**

That’s precious. 😛

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