# Death Panelist threatens the lives of Michelle, Malia and Sasha

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [August 14, 2009, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/death-panelist-threatens-the-lives-of-michelle-malia-and-sasha/506380 "2009-08-14T03:32:43Z")\
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**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2009, 5:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/death-panelist-threatens-the-lives-of-michelle-malia-and-sasha/506380/21 "2009-08-14T05:03:22Z")

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He was detained so he did go to jail, but I never said he should stay there. I do, however, hope he has bejezus scared out of him by the Secret Service. I do hope the Secret Service keeps a close eye on this asshole, and I do hope his being detained and scared will put a damper on some of this insane hysteria that’s going on. Not that that will happen.

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2009, 5:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/death-panelist-threatens-the-lives-of-michelle-malia-and-sasha/506380/22 "2009-08-14T05:28:08Z")

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> [@Snarky\_Kong](#):
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> Sounds like an excellent candidate for water boarding and shocking his testicles. He might know about other assassination plots you know.

Nah, in Chicago we just shoot them as an example for the others. Sure, they’ll be tracked down and killed, but they know why.

ETA: And threatening the guy AND his family? One should think long and hard about how much he loves his family before making such a threat, but the result is probably not pretty. “Probably” because most guys are as dumb as this one.

I learned the ways of the world from some of the greats. Yesterday Wife was bitching about the Wikipedia whitewashing of the end of the Big Tuna, since it was on her shift.

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**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2009, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/death-panelist-threatens-the-lives-of-michelle-malia-and-sasha/506380/23 "2009-08-14T14:39:52Z")

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> [@Equipoise](#):
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> He was detained so he did go to jail, but I never said he should stay there. I do, however, hope he has bejezus scared out of him by the Secret Service. I do hope the Secret Service keeps a close eye on this asshole, and I do hope his being detained and scared will put a damper on some of this insane hysteria that’s going on. Not that that will happen.

He should certainly be detained and thoroughly investigated. He may simply be a harmless crackpot (“What I meant, officer, is that in time death comes to all people…”) or he may be someone who represents a more immediate threat. At a minimum, he needs to be added to the Secret Service watch list, and if there’s the slightest scintilla of evidence that he was making a credible threat to harm the President or his family, he needs to be locked up.

No idea what that has to do with right-wingers.

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2009, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/death-panelist-threatens-the-lives-of-michelle-malia-and-sasha/506380/24 "2009-08-14T14:48:47Z")

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> [@Bricker](#):
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> No idea what that has to do with right-wingers.

Are you somehow of the impression that these nutcases that have been building up their little waste-the-uppity-black-guy wet dreams are leftists of some sort? Are you suggesting that it’s DEMOCRATIC lawmakers who are going on tv and appearing before their constituents mouthing outrageous lies about the healthcare reform program in ways that are frightening these folks into screaming fits?

I thought you were smarter than that. Or better than that, at least.

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**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2009, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/death-panelist-threatens-the-lives-of-michelle-malia-and-sasha/506380/25 "2009-08-14T14:49:47Z")

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I once represented a woman who had a federal hold on her release from jail because she threatened President Bush. She was also bugshit crazy–I mean, real hunger-strike, invisible-bug, ear-biting crazy, not just someone who listened to too much left-wing radio. So yeah, you can get detained for a long time just for threats. I have no idea what happened to her–I simply had her for driving without a license. She’s probably still in Gitmo.

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**Author:** ![whole\_bean](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/96bed5/32.png) [@whole\_bean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/whole_bean)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2009, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/death-panelist-threatens-the-lives-of-michelle-malia-and-sasha/506380/26 "2009-08-14T14:53:17Z")

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> [@Bricker](#):
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> No idea what that has to do with right-wingers.

About as much as over the top enviro-warriors have to do with left-wingers - my guess is that most condemn them, a few quietly support them wishing they had the sack to do the same, and the nutters themselves account for a small percentage of the actual group. Nonetheless, there is a case to be made that it is irresonsible to fuel the sort of ignorance induced paranoia that leads to an increase in the second group mentioned above, lest they drift closer and closer into allignment with the last.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2009, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/death-panelist-threatens-the-lives-of-michelle-malia-and-sasha/506380/27 "2009-08-14T14:56:07Z")

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> [@jayjay](#):
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> I thought you were smarter than that. Or better than that, at least.

Well, now you know. Join the club.

Where were the Bush death threats from “left wingers”? Anybody remember any?

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**Author:** ![MeanOldLady](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanoldlady/32/10737_2.png) [@MeanOldLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanOldLady)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2009, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/death-panelist-threatens-the-lives-of-michelle-malia-and-sasha/506380/28 "2009-08-14T15:01:57Z")

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“Death to Michelle and her two stupid kids”

How does he know her kids are stupid?

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2009, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/death-panelist-threatens-the-lives-of-michelle-malia-and-sasha/506380/29 "2009-08-14T15:05:17Z")

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> [@whole\_bean](#):
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> About as much as over the top enviro-warriors have to do with left-wingers - my guess is that most condemn them, a few quietly support them wishing they had the sack to do the same, and the nutters themselves account for a small percentage of the actual group. Nonetheless, there is a case to be made that it is irresonsible to fuel the sort of ignorance induced paranoia that leads to an increase in the second group mentioned above, lest they drift closer and closer into allignment with the last.

The difference being, of course, that Democratic members of Congress weren’t egging on the anti-Iraq-War protesters, or ELF, or Earth-First. Whereas it’s more than amply demonstrated that the Republican Congressmembers are urging hysterical reaction to the healthcare plan. “Death panels”? Really? Chuck Grassley saying that Obama wants to kill your granny? Seriously? Chuck Grassley, who’s been working as hard as his shriveled little conscience can manage to put a stick in the spoke of the healthcare plan from the inside (well-aided by Max Baucus, supposedly a Democrat)?

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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2009, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/death-panelist-threatens-the-lives-of-michelle-malia-and-sasha/506380/30 "2009-08-14T15:08:12Z")

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> [@Bricker](#):
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> He should certainly be detained and thoroughly investigated. He may simply be a harmless crackpot (“What I meant, officer, is that in time death comes to all people…”) or he may be someone who represents a more immediate threat. At a minimum, he needs to be added to the Secret Service watch list, and if there’s the slightest scintilla of evidence that he was making a credible threat to harm the President or his family, he needs to be locked up.

Right. Dude’s gonna have some fun checking in at the airport for some time to come. It IS pretty standard for the Secret Service to keep an eye on anyone making overt threats on the top leaders, regardless of degree of real viability of threat. And with every administration, there’s always people in the fringe who act as if that were proof that they’re being extra-repressive.

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**Author:** ![whole\_bean](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/96bed5/32.png) [@whole\_bean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/whole_bean)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2009, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/death-panelist-threatens-the-lives-of-michelle-malia-and-sasha/506380/31 "2009-08-14T15:09:12Z")

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> [@jayjay](#):
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> The difference being, of course, that Democratic members of Congress weren’t egging on the anti-Iraq-War protesters, or ELF, or Earth-First. Whereas it’s more than amply demonstrated that the Republican Congressmembers are urging hysterical reaction to the healthcare plan. “Death panels”? Really? Chuck Grassley saying that Obama wants to kill your granny? Seriously? Chuck Grassley, who’s been working as hard as his shriveled little conscience can manage to put a stick in the spoke of the healthcare plan from the inside (well-aided by Max Baucus, supposedly a Democrat)?

I agree, and I meant that to be clear from my post, hence the “nonetheless” as a qualifier to my general agreement with what I understood **Bricker** to be suggesting (_i.e.,_ extremes don’t speak for the party). Anyway, if it wasn’t clear, I agree with you.

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**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2009, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/death-panelist-threatens-the-lives-of-michelle-malia-and-sasha/506380/32 "2009-08-14T15:21:42Z")

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> [@MeanOldLady](#):
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> “Death to Michelle and her two stupid kids”
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> How does he know her kids are stupid?

Maybe he meant “meddling” kids. Maybe it was old Jenkins, the janitor at the amusement park, wearing a rubber mask.

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2009, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/death-panelist-threatens-the-lives-of-michelle-malia-and-sasha/506380/33 "2009-08-14T15:23:06Z")

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> [@whole\_bean](#):
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> I agree, and I meant that to be clear from my post, hence the “nonetheless” as a qualifier to my general agreement with what I understood **Bricker** to be suggesting (_i.e.,_ extremes don’t speak for the party). Anyway, if it wasn’t clear, I agree with you.

Okay, I misread you. Sorry about that!

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2009, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/death-panelist-threatens-the-lives-of-michelle-malia-and-sasha/506380/34 "2009-08-14T15:24:14Z")

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> [@JRDelirious](#):
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> Right. Dude’s gonna have some fun checking in at the airport for some time to come. It IS pretty standard for the Secret Service to keep an eye on anyone making overt threats on the top leaders, regardless of degree of real viability of threat.

That makes sense. I mean, who would have expected [Sara Jane Moore](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sara_Jane_Moore) would actually be dangerous?!

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2009, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/death-panelist-threatens-the-lives-of-michelle-malia-and-sasha/506380/35 "2009-08-14T16:11:59Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> The fucking evil sign notwithstanding, I’m fairly certain that _wishing_ death on the President is not actually a crime.

Death threats are, however, and this could be construed as such.

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2009, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/death-panelist-threatens-the-lives-of-michelle-malia-and-sasha/506380/36 "2009-08-14T16:17:57Z")

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> [@Onomatopoeia](#):
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> The problem is the crazies are really feeling their Cheerios lately. I’m afraid a few of these lunatics are going to do something horrible.

We’ve already had the nut who shot up a church full of people because he hated the liberals; we’ve had Dr. Tiller assassinated in church; we’ve had the Holocaust Museum killer; we’ve had the nut in, was it Pittsburgh? who killed three cops because he was convinced Obama was going to take his guns away. And that’s just in what, the first half of Obama’s first year in office?

But I agree with you; something horrible, something way more horrible than the above is going to happen.

And the right wing loonies will blame it on a left wing conspiracy, while the right wing bloviators who have egged on the rage will deny all responsibility.

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**Author:** ![lightingtool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/57b2e6/32.png) [@lightingtool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lightingtool)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2009, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/death-panelist-threatens-the-lives-of-michelle-malia-and-sasha/506380/37 "2009-08-14T16:23:22Z")

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> [@Rand\_Rover](#):
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> If you don’t send me $10,000 right this fucking instant, then you are an unAmerican bad person who doesn’t care about anybody. And I mean right fucking now. And if you don’t, then you will go to fucking jail for a long fucking time.

What the hell is that? Is this in reference to some other thread or something?

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**Author:** ![buttonjockey308](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bcef8e/32.png) [@buttonjockey308](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/buttonjockey308)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2009, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/death-panelist-threatens-the-lives-of-michelle-malia-and-sasha/506380/38 "2009-08-14T16:25:53Z")

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> [@whole\_bean](#):
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> About as much as over the top enviro-warriors have to do with left-wingers - my guess is that most condemn them, a few quietly support them wishing they had the sack to do the same, and the nutters themselves account for a small percentage of the actual group. Nonetheless, there is a case to be made that it is irresonsible to fuel the sort of ignorance induced paranoia that leads to an increase in the second group mentioned above, lest they drift closer and closer into allignment with the last.

Yep.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2009, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/death-panelist-threatens-the-lives-of-michelle-malia-and-sasha/506380/39 "2009-08-14T16:26:02Z")

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It’s a reference to **RR** being a douche.

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**Author:** ![descamisado](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e480ec/32.png) [@descamisado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/descamisado)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2009, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/death-panelist-threatens-the-lives-of-michelle-malia-and-sasha/506380/40 "2009-08-14T16:34:40Z")

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> [@MeanOldLady](#):
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> “Death to Michelle and her two stupid kids”
> 
> How does he know her kids are stupid?

They’re black, _duh_.

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