# Death Panelist threatens the lives of Michelle, Malia and Sasha **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 14, 2009, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/death-panelist-threatens-the-lives-of-michelle-malia-and-sasha/506380 "2009-08-14T03:32:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![lightingtool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/57b2e6/32.png) [@lightingtool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lightingtool)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2009, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/death-panelist-threatens-the-lives-of-michelle-malia-and-sasha/506380/41 "2009-08-14T16:39:09Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > It’s a reference to **RR** being a douche. I figured that out on my own, thanks. ---
**Author:** ![NurseCarmen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5daacb/32.png) [@NurseCarmen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NurseCarmen)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2009, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/death-panelist-threatens-the-lives-of-michelle-malia-and-sasha/506380/42 "2009-08-14T17:03:31Z")
> [@lightingtool](#): > > What the hell is that? Is this in reference to some other thread or something? I don’t get it either. What is with the $10,000? ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2009, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/death-panelist-threatens-the-lives-of-michelle-malia-and-sasha/506380/43 "2009-08-14T17:06:31Z")
Hoping to buy a reindeer-seeking anti-air missile before Christmas, ---
**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2009, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/death-panelist-threatens-the-lives-of-michelle-malia-and-sasha/506380/44 "2009-08-14T17:07:38Z")
As a libertarian conservative, I think this guy is a loon and should be locked up. I disavow any association with this nutbag. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2009, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/death-panelist-threatens-the-lives-of-michelle-malia-and-sasha/506380/45 "2009-08-14T17:10:51Z")
> [@EddyTeddyFreddy](#): > > We’ve already had the nut who shot up a church full of people because he hated the liberals; we’ve had Dr. Tiller assassinated in church; we’ve had the Holocaust Museum killer; we’ve had the nut in, was it Pittsburgh? who killed three cops because he was convinced Obama was going to take his guns away. And that’s just in what, the first half of Obama’s first year in office? > > But I agree with you; something horrible, something way more horrible than the above is going to happen. > > And the right wing loonies will blame it on a left wing conspiracy, while the right wing bloviators who have egged on the rage will deny all responsibility. Once in the '90s, at a party hosted by a local Libertarian, a guy who claimed some association (I’m not clear on how close) with the militia movement told me there was proof the FBI had perpetrated the Oklahoma City bombing as a “false flag” operation, to generate a pretext for a crackdown on dissidents. That’s their worldview. ---
**Author:** ![whole\_bean](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/96bed5/32.png) [@whole\_bean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/whole_bean)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2009, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/death-panelist-threatens-the-lives-of-michelle-malia-and-sasha/506380/46 "2009-08-14T17:23:19Z")
> [@ivylass](#): > > As a libertarian conservative, I think this guy is a loon and should be locked up. I disavow any association with this nutbag. and do you also disavow those who use incendiary language to spread the sort of false information (like say, death panels) that emboldens these loons in what they perceive as a righteous fight against tyranny? ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2009, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/death-panelist-threatens-the-lives-of-michelle-malia-and-sasha/506380/47 "2009-08-14T17:24:28Z")
> [@ivylass](#): > > As a libertarian conservative, I think this guy is a loon and should be locked up. I disavow any association with this nutbag. The Hagerstown guy, or **Rand R0ver**? ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2009, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/death-panelist-threatens-the-lives-of-michelle-malia-and-sasha/506380/48 "2009-08-14T17:30:43Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > No argument there. > > Naturally. > > It just seems as though there are people in this thread who are under the impression that he’s going to jail or something. Naturally he’d be in jail, if he were arrested and detained. Unless by jail, you mean _prison_, that’s a different story. ---
**Author:** ![MeanOldLady](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanoldlady/32/10737_2.png) [@MeanOldLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanOldLady)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2009, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/death-panelist-threatens-the-lives-of-michelle-malia-and-sasha/506380/49 "2009-08-14T17:33:38Z")
> [@5-4-Fighting](#): > > They’re black, _duh_. Of course. And I think they were born in Kenya. You know how dumb immigrants are. ---
**Author:** ![descamisado](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e480ec/32.png) [@descamisado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/descamisado)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2009, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/death-panelist-threatens-the-lives-of-michelle-malia-and-sasha/506380/50 "2009-08-14T17:36:43Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > Naturally he’d be in jail, if he were arrested and detained. > > Unless by jail, you mean _prison_, that’s a different story. The headline and this quote only say he was detained, not necessarily arrested, which could simply mean held up at the entrance for questioning. > [@](#): > > Lazich said deputies **detained the unidentified, 51-year-old man near the entrance** to Hagerstown Community College about 1 p.m. Wednesday after getting calls from a number of people attending the meeting held by Sen. Ben Cardin, D-Md. Obama was not at the meeting. However, the last paragraph goes on to say that there was no _other_ arrests." ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2009, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/death-panelist-threatens-the-lives-of-michelle-malia-and-sasha/506380/51 "2009-08-14T17:37:27Z")
The right wing is the home of dangerous crazies. The Becks , Malkins and Limbaughs fire them up with wild crazy rhetoric. I do know they would not take any responsibility if a nut does something to the Obama family. Fox is firing up the nuts. Squeeky From got released today. I guess they just have to work on her directly to accomplish the deed. ---
**Author:** ![descamisado](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e480ec/32.png) [@descamisado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/descamisado)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2009, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/death-panelist-threatens-the-lives-of-michelle-malia-and-sasha/506380/52 "2009-08-14T17:42:53Z")
Never mind – the _Washington Post_ says directly that he was taken into custody. And there _WERE_ no other arrests. :smack: ---
**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2009, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/death-panelist-threatens-the-lives-of-michelle-malia-and-sasha/506380/53 "2009-08-14T18:19:37Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > No idea what that has to do with right-wingers. Of course you wouldn’t. > [@ivylass](#): > > I disavow any association with this nutbag. How about Palin, Beck, Hannity, Dobbs, Limbaugh, Savage, Fox, and any other right-winger who’s using media outlets to whip these people into a frenzy based on lies and twisted logic? Thought so. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2009, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/death-panelist-threatens-the-lives-of-michelle-malia-and-sasha/506380/54 "2009-08-14T18:28:11Z")
> [@Equipoise](#): > > How about Palin, Beck, Hannity, Dobbs, Limbaugh, Savage, Fox, and any other right-winger who’s using media outlets to whip these people into a frenzy based on lies and twisted logic? “Whipping people into a frenzy” =/= “Inciting people to kill”. As far as I know, the only people who have advocated the use of violence (or belligerence) are the astroturf groups organizing the anti-UHC protests. ---
**Author:** ![whole\_bean](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/96bed5/32.png) [@whole\_bean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/whole_bean)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2009, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/death-panelist-threatens-the-lives-of-michelle-malia-and-sasha/506380/55 "2009-08-14T18:33:03Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > “Whipping people into a frenzy” =/= “Inciting people to kill”. > > As far as I know, the only people who have advocated the use of violence (or belligerence) are the astroturf groups organizing the anti-UHC protests. Who says they have to be equivalent? This back-and-forth began when **Bricker** asked what these loons had to do with the right wing. Hence the responses you’ve seen to wit, “right-wingers” like Hannity, Palin, Beck, Dobbs, Boortz, Limbaugh, etc. are the very folks feeding the ignorant paranoia that drives the nutters. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2009, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/death-panelist-threatens-the-lives-of-michelle-malia-and-sasha/506380/56 "2009-08-14T18:46:51Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > “Whipping people into a frenzy” =/= “Inciting people to kill”. > > As far as I know, the only people who have advocated the use of violence (or belligerence) are the astroturf groups organizing the anti-UHC protests. I happened to tune in to Rush’s show while I was out getting my lunch today, and he spent easily a good 15 minutes repeatedly tying the current administration, and Obama specifically, to the Nazi regime. In fact it was kind of interesting to hear his approach: the very Madison Ave. technique of repeating the key words he apparently wanted to get across (in this case, ‘Hitler’ and ‘genocide’) as many times as possible (more than 15 times each, by my count), without actually calling Obama a new Hitler or accusing the administration of planning genocide. Now, at no point did I hear Rush advocate violence against anyone. On the other hand, there seemed to be a fairly strong element of “Who will rid me of this turbulent priest?” in his speech, and I for one found it frankly disturbing. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2009, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/death-panelist-threatens-the-lives-of-michelle-malia-and-sasha/506380/57 "2009-08-14T19:00:37Z")
> [@EddyTeddyFreddy](#): > > But I agree with you; something horrible, something way more horrible than the above is going to happen. > > And the right wing loonies will blame it on a left wing conspiracy, while the right wing bloviators who have egged on the rage will deny all responsibility. Change the words a little and it’s nearly exactly what right wingers spent seven years saying about WMDs and Iraq. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2009, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/death-panelist-threatens-the-lives-of-michelle-malia-and-sasha/506380/58 "2009-08-14T19:03:15Z")
> [@El\_Kabong](#): > > I happened to tune in to Rush’s show while I was out getting my lunch today, and he spent easily a good 15 minutes repeatedly tying the current administration, and Obama specifically, to the Nazi regime. In fact it was kind of interesting to hear his approach: the very Madison Ave. technique of repeating the key words he apparently wanted to get across (in this case, ‘Hitler’ and ‘genocide’) as many times as possible (more than 15 times each, by my count), without actually calling Obama a new Hitler or accusing the administration of planning genocide. How, exactly, was he working in the word “genocide” in the context of Obama? By reference to the death panels? 😕 > [@hajario](#): > > Change the words a little and it’s nearly exactly what right wingers spent seven years saying about WMDs and Iraq. I don’t think right wingers spent seven years telling liberals they were responsible for WMDs and Iraq. ---
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2009, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/death-panelist-threatens-the-lives-of-michelle-malia-and-sasha/506380/59 "2009-08-14T19:06:20Z")
There is a vocal subset of Right-Wing assholes who are totally convinced that Obama is if not the antichrist, almost as good. There are others who just think he’s a pointy-headed liberal wanting to sell out good American values, but their animosity is within the normal realm of political culture, and would still be upset if the President were murdered rather than removed by the Democratic process. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2009, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/death-panelist-threatens-the-lives-of-michelle-malia-and-sasha/506380/60 "2009-08-14T19:13:27Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > I don’t think right wingers spent seven years telling liberals they were responsible for WMDs and Iraq. No, they didn’t. They did say that there would be a huge disaster if we didn’t root out the WMDs and force a regime change in Iraq. I’m a centrist and I am sick of all of you. Gloom, doom and scare tactics is what passes for debate anymore. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/death-panelist-threatens-the-lives-of-michelle-malia-and-sasha/506380.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/death-panelist-threatens-the-lives-of-michelle-malia-and-sasha/506380.md?page=4)