# Death Panelist threatens the lives of Michelle, Malia and Sasha **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 14, 2009, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/death-panelist-threatens-the-lives-of-michelle-malia-and-sasha/506380 "2009-08-14T03:32:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2009, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/death-panelist-threatens-the-lives-of-michelle-malia-and-sasha/506380/101 "2009-08-14T20:55:22Z")
> [@Stephe96](#): > > Lies like “the AARP has endorsed my plan?” That is a lie of your own, putting it in quotes. [Here’s what our President and yours said:](http://voices.kansascity.com/node/5433) > [@](#): > > We have the AARP on board because they know this is a good deal for our seniors. AARP would not be endorsing a bill if it was undermining Medicare. Nothing there about an endorsement. And AARP’s response: > [@](#): > > AARP has been working with Democrats and Republicans to fix our broken health care system. While the president was correct that AARP will not endorse a health care reform bill that would reduce Medicare benefits, indications that we have endorsed any of the major health care reform bills currently under consideration in Congress are inaccurate. Schmuck. ---
**Author:** ![Stephe96](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Stephe96](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stephe96)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2009, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/death-panelist-threatens-the-lives-of-michelle-malia-and-sasha/506380/102 "2009-08-14T21:04:30Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > That is a lie of your own, putting it in quotes. > > [Here’s what our President and yours said:](http://voices.kansascity.com/node/5433)Nothing there about an endorsement. > > And AARP’s response: > > Schmuck. So why did Gibbs come out to, ahem, “clarify” Obama’s statement by admitting that he’d “misspoke?” Jackass. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2009, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/death-panelist-threatens-the-lives-of-michelle-malia-and-sasha/506380/103 "2009-08-14T21:05:56Z")
Because he did leave an unclear impression that needed clarifying. But he didn’t lie. You did. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2009, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/death-panelist-threatens-the-lives-of-michelle-malia-and-sasha/506380/104 "2009-08-14T21:07:39Z")
Uh, Elvish? It does say “endorse”. Barry screwed the pooch on this one. It happens. ---
**Author:** ![Stephe96](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Stephe96](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stephe96)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2009, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/death-panelist-threatens-the-lives-of-michelle-malia-and-sasha/506380/105 "2009-08-14T21:11:39Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > Nothing there about an endorsement. Also, if you honestly don’t see any mention of an endorsement in your own post - \*We have the AARP **on board** because they know this is a good deal for our seniors. AARP would not be **endorsing** a bill if it was undermining Medicare. \*- then you are just too stupid for words. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2009, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/death-panelist-threatens-the-lives-of-michelle-malia-and-sasha/506380/106 "2009-08-14T21:18:43Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Uh, Elvish? It does say “endorse”. Barry screwed the pooch on this one. It happens. It says “on board” in the part where he’s talking about his own plan. “Endorse” is in the hypothetical case described in the second sentence. Blame the AARP for waffling, in the face of thousands of membership cancellations in response to their support of reform. [The Moonie Time](http://washingtontimes.com/news/2009/aug/13/aarp-wields-its-power-in-debate-over-health-care/?feat=home_headlines) (what the hell): > [@](#): > > We knew [the health care debate] would get to this position, that it would be very difficult, with partisan politics and … misinformation," AARP spokesman Jim Dau said. > > **AARP has supported the concept of overhauling the system and has endorsed an $80 billion White House deal with pharmaceutical drug manufacturers that will save seniors money under Medicare Part D** , but it has not expressed support for any of the specific pieces of legislation making their way through Congress. > … > **White House officials said privately that the president spoke accurately in general terms because AARP does support the reform effort** ---
**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2009, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/death-panelist-threatens-the-lives-of-michelle-malia-and-sasha/506380/107 "2009-08-14T21:19:03Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Keep the innocent out, or to keep them in? Yes. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2009, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/death-panelist-threatens-the-lives-of-michelle-malia-and-sasha/506380/108 "2009-08-14T21:32:12Z")
> [@Stephe96](#): > > Why is it so difficult for the moonbats to grasp the notion that the majority of Americans simply feel that a failed community organizer with absolutely zero real-world experience is probably not the guy who should be dismantling the greatest health care system on the planet? BwaHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Oh, great Og, I was needing a belly laugh this afternoon! Thanks for providing it. That was perfect. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2009, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/death-panelist-threatens-the-lives-of-michelle-malia-and-sasha/506380/109 "2009-08-14T22:02:07Z")
> [@Stephe96](#): > > Did you believe Obama when he told you that the AARP had endorsed his plan? Or did you suspect he was lying? Obama never told me that. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2009, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/death-panelist-threatens-the-lives-of-michelle-malia-and-sasha/506380/110 "2009-08-14T22:18:12Z")
> [@Squink](#): > > They should put a fence around that place, and electrify it. I’ve found myself lurking there though, every time something like this comes out – just out of morbid curiosity. > [@Stephe96](#): > > You actually believe his town hall meetings are legit? That’s cute. I’m sure you also have an explanation for the plunging support for Obama Care in the national polls? Wait. Let me guess. It’s Glenn Beck and Fox News, right? I don’t give a shit about Fox or Beck. And I’d like to know which “polls” you are talking about. Because I’ve heard different answers from various sources. > [@](#): > > Why is it so difficult for the moonbats to grasp the notion that the majority of Americans simply feel that a failed community organizer with absolutely zero real-world experience is probably not the guy who should be dismantling the greatest health care system on the planet? If you think we have “the greatest health care system on the planet”, then I’d hate to see what you consider “the worst health care system on the planet.” What’s so great about a system where so many are losing their coverage every day, who are denied due to so-called “pre-existing conditions” (god, I HATE those words, and the very concept makes me see red), where everyday people are choosing to wait until ailments become and emergency, because they simply can’t afford to get them to taken care of? Using the freaking ER as their primary care system? That’s the “greatest?” You make me sick. ---
**Author:** ![NurseCarmen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5daacb/32.png) [@NurseCarmen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NurseCarmen)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2009, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/death-panelist-threatens-the-lives-of-michelle-malia-and-sasha/506380/111 "2009-08-14T23:25:43Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > So there’s one for you who isn’t an astroturf group. She’s a frikkin’ senator, somehow. Please. _Congresscritter_. Minnesota isn’t crazy, only one district in Minnesota is. We’re working on a fence. Our Senators are Klobuchar (D-MN) and Franken (D-driving GOP crazy) ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2009, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/death-panelist-threatens-the-lives-of-michelle-malia-and-sasha/506380/112 "2009-08-14T23:56:51Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > If you think we have “the greatest health care system on the planet”, then I’d hate to see what you consider “the worst health care system on the planet.” Have you even every been outside of the U.S.? Worse than the U.S.? How about Mexico, all of South America, the entirety of Eastern Europe, Southern Europe, and pretty much all of Asia. The system here in the U.S. is one of the best in the world. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2009, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/death-panelist-threatens-the-lives-of-michelle-malia-and-sasha/506380/113 "2009-08-15T00:04:47Z")
> [@hajario](#): > > Have you even every been outside of the U.S.? Worse than the U.S.? How about Mexico, all of South America, the entirety of Eastern Europe, Southern Europe, and pretty much all of Asia. The system here in the U.S. is one of the best in the world. Only if you are rich. It’s becoming quite common for Americans who can to go to those places for medical care. Because at least there, the less than rich have access. No; America’s system is NOT one of the best in the world, or even close. We pay more for worse care. ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2009, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/death-panelist-threatens-the-lives-of-michelle-malia-and-sasha/506380/114 "2009-08-15T00:06:35Z")
It’s the best at advanced treatment. It’s way down the list in ordinary health care. ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2009, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/death-panelist-threatens-the-lives-of-michelle-malia-and-sasha/506380/115 "2009-08-15T00:21:14Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > The difference being, of course, that Democratic members of Congress weren’t egging on the anti-Iraq-War protesters, or ELF, or Earth-First. Cynthia McKinney? ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2009, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/death-panelist-threatens-the-lives-of-michelle-malia-and-sasha/506380/116 "2009-08-15T00:35:29Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > Cynthia McKinney? Yep, she’s a loony leftist, a Truther, and an emigrant from the Democratic Party to the Green Party. One might note that she twice lost primaries to Democratic rivals of a saner persuasion, in 2002 and 2006. She also opposed the first Gulf War, in 1991, so she at least has been consistent in her anti-war stance since well before Bush II. She’s hardly the face of the Democratic Party the way that, for example, Sarah Palin is of the Republicans. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2009, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/death-panelist-threatens-the-lives-of-michelle-malia-and-sasha/506380/117 "2009-08-15T00:49:33Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > Cynthia McKinney? Insane, and most of us have thought that since at least the guard-slapping incident. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2009, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/death-panelist-threatens-the-lives-of-michelle-malia-and-sasha/506380/118 "2009-08-15T01:02:49Z")
> [@EddyTeddyFreddy](#): > > Yep, she’s a loony leftist, a Truther, and an emigrant from the Democratic Party to the Green Party. One might note that she twice lost primaries to Democratic rivals of a saner persuasion, in 2002 and 2006. She also opposed the first Gulf War, in 1991, so she at least has been consistent in her anti-war stance since well before Bush II. She’s hardly the face of the Democratic Party the way that, for example, Sarah Palin is of the Republicans. She was also never a darling of the leftist media the way Palin is to Fox News and talk radio. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2009, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/death-panelist-threatens-the-lives-of-michelle-malia-and-sasha/506380/119 "2009-08-15T02:09:59Z")
> [@Snarky\_Kong](#): > > Sounds like an excellent candidate for water boarding and shocking his testicles. He might know about other assassination plots you know. Are those secret prisons in Europe still operating? They might appreciate some business. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2009, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/death-panelist-threatens-the-lives-of-michelle-malia-and-sasha/506380/120 "2009-08-15T02:14:22Z")
I just ran across an Olbermannism for Palin and others who talk about Death Panels and other such nonsense: they’re Death Eaters. I love it. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/death-panelist-threatens-the-lives-of-michelle-malia-and-sasha/506380.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/death-panelist-threatens-the-lives-of-michelle-malia-and-sasha/506380.md?page=7)