# Death penalty opponents and supporters: do you think Trump deserves to be executed?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/death-penalty-opponents-and-supporters-do-you-think-trump-deserves-to-be-executed/930209>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [January 10, 2021, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/death-penalty-opponents-and-supporters-do-you-think-trump-deserves-to-be-executed/930209 "2021-01-10T22:14:49Z")\
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**Author:** ![naita](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naita/32/5862_2.png) [@naita](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/naita)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2021, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/death-penalty-opponents-and-supporters-do-you-think-trump-deserves-to-be-executed/930209/41 "2021-01-12T19:52:11Z")

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Is there a point to posting this poll?

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**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2021, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/death-penalty-opponents-and-supporters-do-you-think-trump-deserves-to-be-executed/930209/42 "2021-01-12T19:52:33Z")

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That’s pretty much my objection as well. Nobody can name a specific crime that gets the death penalty.

First-degree murder? Didn’t do it.  
Treason? Very dubious to nail him on charges of that. Maybe, but it would be slippery.  
Incitement to murder? Slippery and indirect, and I don’t think that is a capital crime.

The same standard that would get Trump executed would also get thousands of Americans executed.

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**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2021, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/death-penalty-opponents-and-supporters-do-you-think-trump-deserves-to-be-executed/930209/43 "2021-01-12T20:32:53Z")

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The capital charge would be sedition.

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**Author:** ![RyanAdam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e68b1a/32.png) [@RyanAdam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RyanAdam)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2021, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/death-penalty-opponents-and-supporters-do-you-think-trump-deserves-to-be-executed/930209/44 "2021-01-12T21:32:51Z")

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Its frankly Trump Derangement Syndrome to even pose the question

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**Author:** ![CairoCarol](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cairocarol/32/3825_2.png) [@CairoCarol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CairoCarol)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2021, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/death-penalty-opponents-and-supporters-do-you-think-trump-deserves-to-be-executed/930209/45 "2021-01-16T20:03:13Z")

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I am opposed to the death penalty but even if I supported it I would not apply it to Trump. Honestly I would love to see him locked up knowing his crimes had been exposed and that he had become an object of contempt and ridicule among virtually everyone.

That won’t happen, I know, but that’s the punishment I want for him.

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**Author:** ![DMC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dmc/32/18049_2.png) [@DMC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DMC)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2021, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/death-penalty-opponents-and-supporters-do-you-think-trump-deserves-to-be-executed/930209/46 "2021-01-16T20:17:43Z")

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At this point 8 or 9 people have selected the choice of Anti-DP/Execute Trump, but no one has stepped up to the plate to explain their reasoning. It might make for an interesting discussion (unless they simply misread the choices).

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2021, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/death-penalty-opponents-and-supporters-do-you-think-trump-deserves-to-be-executed/930209/47 "2021-01-17T15:13:36Z")

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> [@DMC](#):
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> I’d like to hear from those who are generally opposed but think he deserves to be executed. Am I missing something?

Just to separate two things that seem alike, _deserve_ and _should_ aren’t the same thing. Remember Frodo and Gandalf discussing Gollum:

Frodo: “He deserves death.”  
Gandalf: “Deserve it! I daresay he does. Many that live deserve death. And some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then do not be too eager to deal out death in judgment.”

Trump deserves death (or worse), but I wouldn’t have him executed if the choice were mine. (I’d repurpose Gitmo as the prison for him and his fellow insurrectionists, and his sentence would be for life.) Of course, since I’m opposed to the death penalty, that’s just me being consistent. I’m not one of the people you really intended your question for.

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**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2021, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/death-penalty-opponents-and-supporters-do-you-think-trump-deserves-to-be-executed/930209/48 "2021-01-17T15:32:59Z")

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Is it really inconsistent to say that someone deserves to be executed and also say the state shouldn’t execute people? It’s not practical, but not inconsistent either.

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**Author:** ![DMC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dmc/32/18049_2.png) [@DMC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DMC)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2021, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/death-penalty-opponents-and-supporters-do-you-think-trump-deserves-to-be-executed/930209/49 "2021-01-17T18:09:48Z")

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**RTFirefly** , both you and **Elmer\_J.Fudd** make a good point and I agree with it. With that said, the title of the thread uses the term, but the survey question is more specific and uses the term “should be executed”. Based on the lack of response, I’m guessing the people in question aren’t going to share their thought process. Oddly enough, it now has more votes than the pro-DP/pro-execution.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2021, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/death-penalty-opponents-and-supporters-do-you-think-trump-deserves-to-be-executed/930209/50 "2021-01-17T18:50:11Z")

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Until there’s a category for “I ABSOLUTELY oppose the death penalty under any and all circumstances and I don’t think the America-hating fuckstick deserves to be executed,”\* I ain’t voting. \*\* This wishy-washy “generally oppose” bullshit isn’t for me.

\*actually, he DOES _deserve_ to be executed, but I’m opposed to actually doing it.

\*\*And since my non-voting debars me from seeing the results, could someone be a pal and fill me in on where the vote stands with 130 votes in?

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**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2021, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/death-penalty-opponents-and-supporters-do-you-think-trump-deserves-to-be-executed/930209/51 "2021-01-17T19:03:58Z")

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68% are generally opposed and don’t think it should apply to Trump, 19% are generally in favor but don’t think it should apply to Trump, and opposed-but-yes and in-favor-and-yes are 7% and 6%.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2021, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/death-penalty-opponents-and-supporters-do-you-think-trump-deserves-to-be-executed/930209/52 "2021-01-17T19:06:34Z")

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> [@Voyager](#):
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> No death penalty. If he and Ivanka and Jared and Don Jr. are all in the slammer

I wouldn’t mind seeing this scene coming true.

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/iogss0c08vM/hqdefault.jpg "Sideshow Bob and his Family!!!!") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iogss0c08vM)

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2021, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/death-penalty-opponents-and-supporters-do-you-think-trump-deserves-to-be-executed/930209/53 "2021-01-17T19:14:59Z")

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> [@RyanAdam](#):
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> Its frankly Trump Derangement Syndrome to even pose the question

America-hating Fuckstick Derangement Syndrome more properly describes SUPPORTING the America-hating Fuckstick. Doing so obviously implies derangement.

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**Author:** ![DMC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dmc/32/18049_2.png) [@DMC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DMC)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2021, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/death-penalty-opponents-and-supporters-do-you-think-trump-deserves-to-be-executed/930209/54 "2021-01-17T19:28:00Z")

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Yeah, when I hear Trump Derangement Syndrome, I’m assuming that it is describing these individuals.

[![](https://d3i6fh83elv35t.cloudfront.net/static/2021/01/2021-01-08T113149Z_956842782_RC2N3L99FO8X_RTRMADP_3_USA-ELECTION-TRUMP-SUPPORTERS-1024x683.jpg) ](https://d3i6fh83elv35t.cloudfront.net/static/2021/01/2021-01-08T113149Z_956842782_RC2N3L99FO8X_RTRMADP_3_USA-ELECTION-TRUMP-SUPPORTERS-1024x683.jpg)

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**Author:** ![RyanAdam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e68b1a/32.png) [@RyanAdam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RyanAdam)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2021, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/death-penalty-opponents-and-supporters-do-you-think-trump-deserves-to-be-executed/930209/55 "2021-01-17T20:06:27Z")

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Also Trump Derangement Syndrome to reply with this non sequitur.

It’s off the charts crazy town to talk about executing Trump, and nothing better than the pathetic Trump Zombies.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2021, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/death-penalty-opponents-and-supporters-do-you-think-trump-deserves-to-be-executed/930209/56 "2021-01-17T20:27:08Z")

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> [@RyanAdam](#):
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> Also Trump Derangement Syndrome to reply with this non sequitur.
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> It’s off the charts crazy town to taIk about executing Trump, and nothing better than the pathetic Trump Zombies.

Meh. I’m not talking about that any more than you are, so, Meh.

Also, why do you keep misspelling “America-hating fuckstick”?

😛

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**Author:** ![Cazzle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cazzle/32/75_2.png) [@Cazzle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cazzle)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2021, 5:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/death-penalty-opponents-and-supporters-do-you-think-trump-deserves-to-be-executed/930209/57 "2021-01-18T05:16:45Z")

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I don’t think America will ever experience peace or security again as long as he’s alive, but I don’t know if his death would be enough to extinguish the movement/s that are focused on him. But it still doesn’t outweigh my opposition to the death penalty.

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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2021, 5:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/death-penalty-opponents-and-supporters-do-you-think-trump-deserves-to-be-executed/930209/58 "2021-01-18T05:25:53Z")

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> [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](#):
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> I’m against both unless Trump is still in the White House on the 21st. After that I support going full-[Mussolini](https://foreignpolicy.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/mussolini_e_petacci_a_piazzale_loreto_1945.jpg?w=800) on his ass.

Well, if he can’t be peacefully extracted from the white house. I won’t weep if he gets killed. But I find it hard to imagine that the secret service couldn’t subdue him without needing to kill him. And they should certainly do their best not to kill him.

And once he’s subdued, it would be murder to kill him. Just as for any other civilian.

I think his crimes, especially organizing an attempted coup, deserve prison time, but no, I don’t support the death penalty for that.

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**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2021, 6:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/death-penalty-opponents-and-supporters-do-you-think-trump-deserves-to-be-executed/930209/59 "2021-01-18T06:01:02Z")

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Stupid Discourse flipped the order of the questions around when I went to vote. I tried to pick “oppose DP, oppose execution” but clicked “oppose DP, support execution”. Subtract one from that choice.

Being locked up in solitary for all the years and years his amazing genes will let him live with nobody to tell him how great he is is a much better punishment.

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**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2021, 6:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/death-penalty-opponents-and-supporters-do-you-think-trump-deserves-to-be-executed/930209/60 "2021-01-18T06:23:50Z")

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Discourse permits you to change your vote. Under the poll there’s a “show vote” button. Just click on that, and you can correct your choice.

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