# Deaths superheroes are responsible for

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [November 11, 2005, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deaths-superheroes-are-responsible-for/330535 "2005-11-11T05:04:26Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 11\
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**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2005, 8:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deaths-superheroes-are-responsible-for/330535/41 "2005-11-12T08:47:35Z")

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Cripes…all of these Legion killings, and I completely forgot Element Lad in Legion Lost. \>\_\< Young Jan became a psychotic god. Instructed his chosen species to commit genocide against the others…specifically murdered Monstress…killed Live Wire (sort of)…

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2005, 8:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deaths-superheroes-are-responsible-for/330535/42 "2005-11-12T08:48:24Z")

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> [@Snooooopy](#):
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> Wow … _Avengers_ has evolved quite a bit since I was reading it regularly (but that was over a decade ago). It was a pretty simple good-guys-whomp-the-bad-guys deal back then.

I think that _was_ over a decade ago.

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**Author:** ![Horatio\_Hellpop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Horatio\_Hellpop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatio_Hellpop)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2005, 11:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deaths-superheroes-are-responsible-for/330535/43 "2005-11-12T11:09:23Z")

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Hawkeye killed at least two people in the 80s (Egghead and Silencer) right before going all self-righteous on his wife Mockingbird for killing someone who’d raped her. It’s a shame when comics writers don’t bother reading each other’s work.

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2005, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deaths-superheroes-are-responsible-for/330535/44 "2005-11-12T17:03:02Z")

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> [@Krokodil](#):
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> Hawkeye killed at least two people in the 80s (Egghead and Silencer) right before going all self-righteous on his wife Mockingbird for killing someone who’d raped her. It’s a shame when comics writers don’t bother reading each other’s work.

Both of those were accidents, I believe; Egghead certainly was.

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**Author:** ![critter42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7ba0ec/32.png) [@critter42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/critter42)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2005, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deaths-superheroes-are-responsible-for/330535/45 "2005-11-12T18:22:57Z")

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Don’t forget that [Fred Hembeck Destroyed the Marvel Universe](http://www.hembeck.com/Destruction.htm)

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**Author:** ![blondebear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blondebear/32/1022_2.png) [@blondebear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blondebear)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2005, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deaths-superheroes-are-responsible-for/330535/46 "2005-11-12T20:22:42Z")

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It may be argued that Superman was responsible for the death of George Reeve.

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**Author:** ![cckerberos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f0a364/32.png) [@cckerberos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cckerberos)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2005, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deaths-superheroes-are-responsible-for/330535/47 "2005-11-12T23:11:49Z")

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Dazzler killed Klaw in her series.

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**Author:** ![Kythereia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e8c25b/32.png) [@Kythereia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kythereia)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2005, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deaths-superheroes-are-responsible-for/330535/48 "2005-11-12T23:14:41Z")

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> [@blondebear](#):
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> It may be argued that Superman was responsible for the death of George Reeve.

[Obligatory Snopes link](http://www.snopes.com/radiotv/tv/superman.htm)

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**Author:** ![Saltire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saltire/32/553_2.png) [@Saltire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saltire)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2005, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deaths-superheroes-are-responsible-for/330535/49 "2005-11-12T23:49:25Z")

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> [@Odinoneeye](#):
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> Queen Projectra killed Nemesis Kid in the Legion, however, she wasn’t a member of the Legion and he had just essentially caused her husband’s death.
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> She said something about it being her right as absolute ruler of Orando. I guess she was right.

I’m not much of a DC reader, but somehow I remember reading that one.

Nemesis Kid had the power to reproduce any other superpowered being’s abilities, only at a slightly higher level. He out-fought Karate Kid, then Karate Kid sacrificed himself stopping one of Nemesis Kid’s evil plans.

When Projectra came at him, Nemesis Kid taunted her, saying he’d be able to match any of her mental powers easily. She said she would never use her powers to execute a criminal, and just reached out and snapped his neck. He had no defense against her merely-human rage.

Googling to check my facts seems to indicate they got rebooted and now Karate Kid’s alive in the 20th century, but Projectra is dead in the 30th. Comics are so hard to follow…

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**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2005, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deaths-superheroes-are-responsible-for/330535/50 "2005-11-13T00:06:41Z")

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> [@Saltire](#):
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> Nemesis Kid had the power to reproduce any other superpowered being’s abilities, only at a slightly higher level.

Actually, Nemesis Kid had the power to develop exactly the power or skill he needed to counter a given opponant’s abilities. I think in Val’s case it was just more skill at the Martial Arts. In Jeckie’s case it was mental hardening against her illusions.

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> Googling to check my facts seems to indicate they got rebooted and now Karate Kid’s alive in the 20th century, but Projectra is dead in the 30th. Comics are so hard to follow…

Apparently so…

The Val in the 20th century was the same one that Nemisis Kid killed - he’d spent time there as part of convincing Jeckie’s father he was worthy of marrying her.

They’re both alive and well in the 30th century, currently (although Orando was recently destroyed, killing all Orandi save Projectra) - and both were alive and well in the 30th century as of the end of the post-ZH continuity.

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**Author:** ![Harborwolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Harborwolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harborwolf)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2005, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deaths-superheroes-are-responsible-for/330535/51 "2005-11-13T00:14:57Z")

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Rogue put her first kiss, Cody Robbins, into a coma for the rest of his life. She absorbed Carol Danvers mind and powers permanently.

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