# Debt to Drug Dealer **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [May 12, 2017, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/debt-to-drug-dealer/786488 "2017-05-12T22:51:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![ThisSpaceForRent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thisspaceforrent/32/345_2.png) [@ThisSpaceForRent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThisSpaceForRent)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2017, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/debt-to-drug-dealer/786488/41 "2017-05-13T17:37:13Z")
> [@hajario](#): > > I should clarify. That large of a front could happen with a lower level dealer and a long relationship. Not with a common user. Haj… I was on the bus for a few summer tours and various other midwest tours. Sadly only got 87 “jerry” shows… I knew several associates that financed tour with a front of some kick ass blotter, so yes, it does happen. But as you pointed out, to anyone but feds, these were lower level and a strong group of acquaintances. I did not have to play the game cause I was a food vendor…specializing in gourmet grill cheese and fresh baked cookies. I did tend to barter a lot. ---
**Author:** ![astro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@astro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astro)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2017, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/debt-to-drug-dealer/786488/42 "2017-05-13T17:46:01Z")
> [@casdave](#): > > I will also add, £600 is not really all that much of a cocaine debt - I know of individuals who have done £1200 in a couple of hours, how much more has she stuck up her nose? and how much id the debt really? my bet is that it is rather more than you know - classic addict tactics is to minimise the issues. > > Lets face it, if the debt was £2000, would that alter your view?, what about £10000? - at what point do you decide enough is enough? > > Addicts typically end up in prison and lacking support from family - this is because they have let their loved ones down again and again, they steal from them, they promise so much, and always tomorrow. > > Tomorrow is an addicts religion. > > Run like fuck, or get some serious support - the problem is that there is so little support available - but you cannot possibly cope with this on your own, and even with help, its most unlikely that things will turn out well. I am curious, what does the UK NHS offer in the way of support for addicts? I know the US is a shit show if you have no money or insurance. ---
**Author:** ![erysichthon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d07c76/32.png) [@erysichthon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/erysichthon)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2017, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/debt-to-drug-dealer/786488/43 "2017-05-13T17:47:15Z")
> [@Delicious](#): > > We’re pretty much tapped for money as it stands and don’t really have anything of value to sell (I have a violin that would cover it if sold but I’d rather stab the guy and try to make a self defence claim than sell my violin) might be able to get a payday loan but that seems to be just asking for spiralling debt. If you’ve ruled out a divorce (which would be my first recommendation), then you might as well sell that violin now—or, at a minimum, store it someplace where your wife can’t get it. If you don’t, sooner or later she’ll pawn it. ---
**Author:** ![actualliberalnotoneofthose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e79b87/32.png) [@actualliberalnotoneofthose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/actualliberalnotoneofthose)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2017, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/debt-to-drug-dealer/786488/44 "2017-05-13T18:47:42Z")
> [@hajario](#): > > I’ve never heard of a dealer who gave credit. I have heard of ones who do for women, and they get repaid in the obvious way if no cash is forthcoming. ---
**Author:** ![actualliberalnotoneofthose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e79b87/32.png) [@actualliberalnotoneofthose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/actualliberalnotoneofthose)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2017, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/debt-to-drug-dealer/786488/45 "2017-05-13T18:54:05Z")
> [@Delicious](#): > > Divorce isn’t an option I’m afraid, I’m pretty sure the marriage vows have this situation covered under ‘better or worse’, there’s also the whole love thing & her being the mother of my child. I GET this. Been there and my wife was never a drug addict, fortunately, though her mental health issues manifested in other difficult ways. But by saying this you are pretty much condoning her drug use, cheating (if that happens), prostitution (typical way drug debts are paid) or basically anything your wife does just because you married her and had a kid with her. I don’t think marriage vows only work one-way. I think hiding drug use and spiraling debt breaks some kind of vow. And don’t be surprised if she does much worse since you have given her permission. That said, I’m the last guy to advocate divorce if things can be worked out. I’m just saying it sounds like you are going out of your way to enable your wife’s destructive behavior that puts you and your child in danger (economic and otherwise) and then the whole burden is on you running around scrambling to come up with money and bail her out. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2017, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/debt-to-drug-dealer/786488/46 "2017-05-13T18:58:38Z")
> [@actualliberalnotoneofthose](#): > > I have heard of ones who do for women, and they get repaid in the obvious way if no cash is forthcoming. Yep. That is very common. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2017, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/debt-to-drug-dealer/786488/47 "2017-05-13T19:16:24Z")
> [@ThisSpaceForRent](#): > > Haj… > > I was on the bus for a few summer tours and various other midwest tours. Sadly only got 87 “jerry” shows… > > I knew several associates that financed tour with a front of some kick ass blotter, so yes, it does happen. But as you pointed out, to anyone but feds, these were lower level and a strong group of acquaintances. > > I did not have to play the game cause I was a food vendor…specializing in gourmet grill cheese and fresh baked cookies. I did tend to barter a lot. Two of my friends did stints prison because of blotter. They were selling sheets. Deadheads with some blotter are a different culture than coke dealers. ---
**Author:** ![Crafter\_Man](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crafter_man/32/458_2.png) [@Crafter\_Man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crafter_Man)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2017, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/debt-to-drug-dealer/786488/48 "2017-05-13T19:23:26Z")
> [@Delicious](#): > > …spoke to the dealer, he seemed surprisingly friendly and open to an installment plan, got to scare up £300 before tonight…I think it’s doable. You talked to the dealer?? What the hell? _Screw_ the dealer. Dude, you’re delusional and your priorities are all screwed up. _Forget_ the dealer and (for now at least) _forget_ your wife. Your one and _ **only** _ priority at this point is your son. Your son is _not_ safe with her. All of your time, money, and energy from here on out should be spent on getting custody of your son. ---
**Author:** ![Rigamarole](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/77aa72/32.png) [@Rigamarole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rigamarole)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2017, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/debt-to-drug-dealer/786488/49 "2017-05-13T19:26:05Z")
> [@DigitalC](#): > > Mrs Delicious is a drug addict, that baby is the SECOND most important thing in her life. She should under no circumstance be the one with the baby. That is the most absurd judgment of someone you don’t even know that I’ve ever heard. Do you get all your opinions from Hollywood? ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2017, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/debt-to-drug-dealer/786488/50 "2017-05-13T19:32:30Z")
> [@casdave](#): > > I will also add, £600 is not really all that much of a cocaine debt - I know of individuals who have done £1200 in a couple of hours Jiminy Christmas, how much is coke in the UK? 600 pounds is what, $700 US? That’s enough to buy half an ounce here almost, and that’s 14 grams! You know someone that’s done TWICE that amount in a couple hours? Good grief. ---
**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2017, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/debt-to-drug-dealer/786488/51 "2017-05-13T19:37:09Z")
> [@hajario](#): > > Yep. That is very common. Its an ugly thought, but… all those intimate moments and things between the OP and his wife? Her drug dealer (and every disease he has) has likely shared many of them too. Its STD Testing Time… and you may not like the results. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2017, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/debt-to-drug-dealer/786488/52 "2017-05-13T19:56:09Z")
> [@Count\_Blucher](#): > > Its an ugly thought, but… all those intimate moments and things between the OP and his wife? Her drug dealer (and every disease he has) has likely shared many of them too. > > Its STD Testing Time… and you may not like the results. There is no indication that OP’s was screening her dealer which is why there is a debt. ---
**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2017, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/debt-to-drug-dealer/786488/53 "2017-05-13T20:40:38Z")
> [@hajario](#): > > There is no indication that OP’s was screening her dealer which is why there is a debt. Wait, you yourself (about 6 or so posts ago) said that this is very common. I’m not disagreeing with you. I’m taking the proactive step of saying that if this is very common, then shared partner history in this situation is very common. If there is shared partner history with her drug dealer (yes, I’m being unfair to drug dealers. They can sue me for defamation, I’m sure. :rolleyes: ) then STD testing is very important. Some diseases are life altering… and life ending. I stand by ‘get tested’ as advice. Hell, it might even help the OP in court with the divorce. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2017, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/debt-to-drug-dealer/786488/54 "2017-05-13T20:49:28Z")
It’s very common, particularly with coke. And an std test is cheap and easy to do so it is definitely a reasonable and a good idea to get one. I agree with you. It’s just that the fact that there is an outstanding debt makes me think that she wasn’t working it off that way. ---
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2017, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/debt-to-drug-dealer/786488/55 "2017-05-13T21:01:07Z")
> [@Count\_Blucher](#): > > Its an ugly thought, but… all those intimate moments and things between the OP and his wife? Her drug dealer (and every disease he has) has likely shared many of them too. > > Its STD Testing Time… and you may not like the results. A paternity test might not be a bad idea either. Sadly, I get the impression that Delicious isn’t all that interested in the child, except maybe as a chick magnet if he gets custody. :smack: ---
**Author:** ![Delicious](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@Delicious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Delicious)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2017, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/debt-to-drug-dealer/786488/56 "2017-05-13T21:13:10Z")
Well I managed to get the £300 and met with the dealer, he was surprisingly pleasant and said there’s no rush on paying back the rest. > [@elbows](#): > > Did you mention you won’t pay her debt again? That it needs to end here? That has been mentioned, also Mrs Delicious is going to have to get an evening/weekend job to pay back the people I borrowed from. ---
**Author:** ![Delicious](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@Delicious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Delicious)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2017, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/debt-to-drug-dealer/786488/57 "2017-05-13T21:19:57Z")
> [@actualliberalnotoneofthose](#): > > I have heard of ones who do for women, and they get repaid in the obvious way if no cash is forthcoming. > [@hajario](#): > > Yep. That is very common. > [@Count\_Blucher](#): > > Its an ugly thought, but… all those intimate moments and things between the OP and his wife? Her drug dealer (and every disease he has) has likely shared many of them too. > > Its STD Testing Time… and you may not like the results. > [@nearwildheaven](#): > > A paternity test might not be a bad idea either. > > Sadly, I get the impression that Delicious isn’t all that interested in the child, except maybe as a chick magnet if he gets custody. :smack: So because someone has an addiction, there’re going to become a prostitute? Does that count for all people or just women? All drugs too or just illegal ones? Also **nearwildheaven** …actually I think there’s rules against replying to that how I would like…let’s just say you’re very wrong. ---
**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2017, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/debt-to-drug-dealer/786488/58 "2017-05-13T21:27:53Z")
> [@Delicious](#): > > So because someone has an addiction, there’re going to become a prostitute? Does that count for all people or just women? All drugs too or just illegal ones? Look, just because it pissed you off doesn’t mean its bad advice. What does a test cost you? What might it save you? Fine, I’ll work on my diplomacy. Still, not everyone who pisses you off has your worst interests in mind. ---
**Author:** ![Delicious](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@Delicious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Delicious)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2017, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/debt-to-drug-dealer/786488/59 "2017-05-13T21:41:02Z")
> [@Count\_Blucher](#): > > Look, just because it pissed you off doesn’t mean its bad advice. What does a test cost you? What might it save you? > > Fine, I’ll work on my diplomacy. Still, not everyone who pisses you off has your worst interests in mind. I do work near a STD testing place, could be a no harm, no foul situation…I’ll take the advice on board. ---
**Author:** ![Ellecram](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellecram/32/18948_2.png) [@Ellecram](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ellecram)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2017, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/debt-to-drug-dealer/786488/60 "2017-05-13T21:44:54Z")
> [@Crafter\_Man](#): > > You talked to the dealer?? What the hell? _Screw_ the dealer. > > Dude, you’re delusional and your priorities are all screwed up. _Forget_ the dealer and (for now at least) _forget_ your wife. Your one and _ **only** _ priority at this point is your son. Your son is _not_ safe with her. All of your time, money, and energy from here on out should be spent on getting custody of your son. I don’t know how child welfare works in your country but in the US it can get very complicated if your wife is involved in a drug related incident with the child. You as the protective, non using parent may be placed in a situation you don’t want to be in. It might be a good idea to talk to an attorney as soon as possible about what you can do to protect your child. Find an attorney who practices in family law and knows the systems you could potentially be dealing with. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/debt-to-drug-dealer/786488.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/debt-to-drug-dealer/786488.md?page=4)