# Debunk, if possible: Trump is fine, Fauci also downplayed CV into March

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/debunk-if-possible-trump-is-fine-fauci-also-downplayed-cv-into-march/920305>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [September 11, 2020, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/debunk-if-possible-trump-is-fine-fauci-also-downplayed-cv-into-march/920305 "2020-09-11T03:33:25Z")\
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**Author:** ![Cardinal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cardinal/32/4000_2.png) [@Cardinal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cardinal)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2020, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/debunk-if-possible-trump-is-fine-fauci-also-downplayed-cv-into-march/920305/21 "2020-09-12T17:13:36Z")

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I don’t think he lied about it, I’m just trying to cover all the bases. The idea to look at was that Trump was lying he knew CV was serious, but he was a great leader and didn’t want to cause a panic. Trump can’t seem to imagine that people know things he doesn’t, and claims to know everything that’s already widely known, so it was an idea that he would be unable to admit he didn’t know the real situation back then.

I think he’s the biggest liar I’ve ever seen, and I very much doubt that’s true, because he had to have known at the time. I’m just trying to take the high road and examine what might be true instead of automatically assume he’s wrong every time. Of course, he’s so bad that I can’t recall him actually being right, but if I denounce everything automatically, it ruins my credibility.

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**Author:** ![Cardinal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cardinal/32/4000_2.png) [@Cardinal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cardinal)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2020, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/debunk-if-possible-trump-is-fine-fauci-also-downplayed-cv-into-march/920305/22 "2020-09-12T17:19:24Z")

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Thanks

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2020, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/debunk-if-possible-trump-is-fine-fauci-also-downplayed-cv-into-march/920305/23 "2020-09-12T23:45:38Z")

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> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#):
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> I would hesitate to blame any individual for this astoundingly bad public policy position. Except for the guy at the top, who was unable or unwilling to mobilize the vast resources of the US government, choosing to deal instead with a small group of cronies that were completely incapable of anything but creating confusion.

And lining their pockets.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2020, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/debunk-if-possible-trump-is-fine-fauci-also-downplayed-cv-into-march/920305/24 "2020-09-13T03:47:31Z")

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Which is what he specializes in. He is a pyrite-plated pickpocket, doing what pickpockets do.

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**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2020, 11:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/debunk-if-possible-trump-is-fine-fauci-also-downplayed-cv-into-march/920305/25 "2020-09-14T11:46:57Z")

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> [@Velocity](#):
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> Many Americans, including Trump, are prone to dangerous cultural optimism - believing what they want to believe, that ‘everything’s going to be okay’ - and won’t take something seriously unless it is told to them extremely sharply and ominously.

I think this is true (I’m guilty of it myself). It partly stems from our being insulated from direct effects of war for most of our history (compared to, say, Europeans), and partly from most of us (not all!) descending from folks who came to this continent, survived, and (eventually, many of them) thrived — the actions of optimists.

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2020, 6:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/debunk-if-possible-trump-is-fine-fauci-also-downplayed-cv-into-march/920305/26 "2020-09-15T06:14:24Z")

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Yup, as soon as I saw that the link was from the Washington Post I said to myself that its got to be either Thiessen or Henry Olsen.

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [September 15, 2020, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/debunk-if-possible-trump-is-fine-fauci-also-downplayed-cv-into-march/920305/27 "2020-09-15T17:28:32Z")

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> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#):
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> The reporting that I’ve read indicates that the dissuasion of mask-wearing was a deliberate strategy for addressing the PPE shortage.

Contrast il Doofus, who had available a much more productive option for responding to the PPE shortage (invoking the Defense Production Act to rapidly increase the supply) and failed to take advantage of out of of (at best) negligence or (at worst) deliberate intent to aggravate a problem he saw as primarily damaging to Democratic constituencies.

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