# Debunk this e-mail Re: military service of Dems and Repubs?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/debunk-this-e-mail-re-military-service-of-dems-and-repubs/270054>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [October 19, 2004, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/debunk-this-e-mail-re-military-service-of-dems-and-repubs/270054 "2004-10-19T16:56:46Z")\
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**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2004, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/debunk-this-e-mail-re-military-service-of-dems-and-repubs/270054/21 "2004-10-19T19:02:03Z")

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> [@Twiddle](#):
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> Subject: military service of key Democrats and Republicans
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> Do You See A Pattern Here?

I see a pattern of ignoring inconvenient exceptions.

The President Pro-Tem of the Senate is Republican: Ted Stevens. During World War II he was a pilot in the China-Burma-India theater, supporting the Flying Tigers of the 14th Air Force. He received two Distinguished Flying Crosses, two Air Medals, and the Yuan Hai medal awarded by the Republic of China.

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**Author:** ![jshore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b5e925/32.png) [@jshore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jshore)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2004, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/debunk-this-e-mail-re-military-service-of-dems-and-repubs/270054/22 "2004-10-19T19:27:05Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> Max Cleland should probably be moved to the Republican column, though.

I don’t understand this comment. I assume you are mixing him up with Zell Miller?

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**Author:** ![Mr.Moto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9de0a6/32.png) [@Mr.Moto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Moto)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2004, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/debunk-this-e-mail-re-military-service-of-dems-and-repubs/270054/23 "2004-10-19T19:31:29Z")

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> [@Malodorous](#):
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> Secretary of the Navy is a civilian post, but I see your point. Your right about the polio though, it was after WWI.

Well, if you’re willing to forgive FDR on this point, you have to let Dick Cheney off the hook as well.

After all, Secretary of Defense is similarly a civilian position.

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2004, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/debunk-this-e-mail-re-military-service-of-dems-and-repubs/270054/24 "2004-10-19T19:35:05Z")

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> [@jshore](#):
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> I don’t understand this comment. I assume you are mixing him up with Zell Miller?

Yes, you are right. That was a stupid statement on my part. I retract.

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**Author:** ![Mr.Moto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9de0a6/32.png) [@Mr.Moto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Moto)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2004, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/debunk-this-e-mail-re-military-service-of-dems-and-repubs/270054/25 "2004-10-19T19:45:38Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> Well, **Mr. Moto** , you can either keep griping, or you can provide your own list that you would consider fair(er).

How about I gripe, for the legitimate reasons I gave (cherrypicking, omitting many Republican veterans) and resist coming up with a list, also for the reasons I gave (this makes no difference, except as the cheapest of political rhetoric)?

I served my entire enlistment under Clinton. Some of that was in the service of a foreign war (in Yugoslavia). I am currently applying for VFW membership, and should get in easily.

Was Clinton a chickenhawk? I called him my commander-in-chief.

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**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2004, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/debunk-this-e-mail-re-military-service-of-dems-and-repubs/270054/26 "2004-10-19T19:52:44Z")

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> [@Mr. Moto](#):
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> Actually, the senior Bush was in the Navy, the youngest naval combat flier of his day. He never won a Silver Star, but does hold the Distinguished Flying Cross.

Behold! Brain no worky! Yes!

Excuse me, I’ll just go F4U myself in the head with a hammer now. I plead caffeine deprivation. The point being that I noticed instantly a huge omission.

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