# December Botticelli

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/december-botticelli/675169>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [November 30, 2013, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/december-botticelli/675169 "2013-11-30T23:15:56Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 16

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**Author:** ![fanganga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/58f4c7/32.png) [@fanganga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fanganga)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2013, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/december-botticelli/675169/302 "2013-12-15T22:22:50Z")

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IQ1: Should the mighty look upon your works and despair?  
IQ2: Did a prince ask to lay his head upon your lap?  
IQ3: Did you say your name was “No-one”?

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2013, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/december-botticelli/675169/303 "2013-12-15T22:59:49Z")

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> [@SCAdian](#):
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> IQ1: Are you a mythical hunter who was taken up into the sky after dying?  
> IQ2: Were you a movie and theatre director?  
> IQ3: Are you a fictional pig?

> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> I am not Orion. I am not Oscar Preminger. Take a DQ for the pig.

Correct on Orion and Preminger.  
[Olivia](https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&site=imghp&tbm=isch&source=hp&biw=960&bih=482&q=olivia+book&oq=olivia+book&gs_l=img.3..0l6j0i5l2j0i24l2.780.2761.0.3291.11.10.0.1.1.0.94.702.10.10.0....0...1ac.1.32.img..0.11.702.4qlZOcAx7_0).  
DQ: From an American source?  
IQ1: Was your son a well-known imitation Air Force officer?  
IQ2: Did you play opposite Leonard in the film adaptation of a play?  
IQ3: Were you the king of the fairies?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2013, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/december-botticelli/675169/304 "2013-12-15T23:44:29Z")

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> [@fanganga](#):
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> IQ1: Should the mighty look upon your works and despair?  
> IQ2: Did a prince ask to lay his head upon your lap?  
> IQ3: Did you say your name was “No-one”?

I am not Ozymandias (though I considered that one). I am not Ophelia. I am not Odysseus.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2013, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/december-botticelli/675169/305 "2013-12-15T23:45:32Z")

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> [@SCAdian](#):
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> IQ1: Was your son a well-known imitation Air Force officer?  
> IQ2: Did you play opposite Leonard in the film adaptation of a play?  
> IQ3: Were you the king of the fairies?

I’m not Oberon. Take DQs for the first two.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2013, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/december-botticelli/675169/306 "2013-12-15T23:46:37Z")

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DQs:

1. Fictional
2. Only name starts with O
3. Most often female
4. From an American source

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2013, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/december-botticelli/675169/307 "2013-12-16T01:26:02Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> I am not Orion. I am not Oscar Preminger. Take a DQ for the pig.

> [@SCAdian](#):
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> Correct on Orion and Preminger.

Well, _Otto_ Preminger, actually…

> [@SCAdian](#):
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> IQ1: Was your son a well-known imitation Air Force officer?  
> IQ2: Did you play opposite Leonard in the film adaptation of a play?  
> IQ3: Were you the king of the fairies?

> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> I’m not Oberon. Take DQs for the first two.

Otto Klemperer, whose son Werner played Colonel Klink.  
Olivia Hussey, who starred in the Franco Zeffirelli _Romeo and Juliet_ with Leonard Whiting.  
Correct on Oberon.  
DQ1: First appeared after 1900?  
DQ2: Human?  
IQ1: Were you chancellor of Germany in the late 1800s?  
IQ2: Did you and your brother manufacture bicycles before moving on to other things?  
IQ3: Were you picky about lists?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2013, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/december-botticelli/675169/308 "2013-12-16T02:38:44Z")

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DQs:

1. Fictional
2. Only name starts with O
3. Most often female
4. From an American source
5. First appeared after 1900
6. Human

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2013, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/december-botticelli/675169/309 "2013-12-16T02:39:47Z")

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> [@SCAdian](#):
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> IQ1: Were you chancellor of Germany in the late 1800s?  
> IQ2: Did you and your brother manufacture bicycles before moving on to other things?  
> IQ3: Were you picky about lists?

I’m not Otto von Bismarck. I’m not Orville Wright. I’m not Opalcat.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2013, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/december-botticelli/675169/310 "2013-12-16T04:11:07Z")

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I played Oberon in a high school production of _A Midsummer’s Night’s Dream_!

Previous IQs:

Were you played by an actress who is best known for playing a terrified mom? - Olive Oyl was played by Shelley Duvall in _Popeye_; she’s better known for her role in _The Shining_.  
Did you star in a movie that had the bad guy put into a tiny cage and hung outside? - Orson Welles starred in a B&W film production of _Othello_; Iago was caged after he was caught.  
Did the pizza guy get into your family holiday photo this year? - Odie, Garfield’s friend, in the Sunday cartoon strip a week or two ago.

DQs:

First appeared after 1950?  
First appeared in a novel?  
Creator still living?

IQs:

Are you and your actress sister still feuding?  
Did you write to friends when you should have been focusing on your job?  
Did your poem help save a famous ship?

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2013, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/december-botticelli/675169/311 "2013-12-16T04:45:42Z")

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So we’re on to O?

IQ1: Were you a French-born British agent in WWII?  
IQ2: Did you host your own talk show?  
IQ3: Did you design clothes for Jackie Kennedy?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2013, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/december-botticelli/675169/312 "2013-12-16T13:25:52Z")

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DQs:

1. Fictional
2. Only name starts with O
3. Most often female
4. From an American source
5. First appeared after 1900
6. Human
7. First appeared before 1950
8. First appeared in a novel
9. Creator is deceased.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2013, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/december-botticelli/675169/313 "2013-12-16T13:26:52Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> IQs:
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> Are you and your actress sister still feuding?  
> Did you write to friends when you should have been focusing on your job?  
> Did your poem help save a famous ship?

I am not Olivia de Havilland. Take another 2 DQs.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2013, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/december-botticelli/675169/314 "2013-12-16T13:28:12Z")

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> [@Spoons](#):
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> So we’re on to O?
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> IQ1: Were you a French-born British agent in WWII?  
> IQ2: Did you host your own talk show?  
> IQ3: Did you design clothes for Jackie Kennedy?

Take a DQ for #1.  
#2) I’m not Oprah Winfrey.  
#3) I’m not Oscar de la Renta.

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**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2013, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/december-botticelli/675169/315 "2013-12-16T17:37:11Z")

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IQ1: Did you create Jack Pumpkinhead?  
IQ2: Do you want women to get out of your dreams and into your car?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2013, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/december-botticelli/675169/316 "2013-12-16T17:43:55Z")

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> [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](#):
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> IQ1: Did you create Jack Pumpkinhead?  
> IQ2: Do you want women to get out of your dreams and into your car?

Way to go, Chock!

I am indeed, Princess Ozma of OZ!

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2013, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/december-botticelli/675169/317 "2013-12-16T19:23:35Z")

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Good job, **ChockFull**!

As to DQ3, when would Princess Ozma _not_ be female?

Previous IQs:

Are you and your actress sister still feuding? - Yes, Olivia de Havilland.  
Did you write to friends when you should have been focusing on your job? - Oliver Wendell Holmes Jr. sometimes caught up on his correspondence during oral arguments before the U.S. Supreme Court.  
Did your poem help save a famous ship? - His father, OWH Sr., who wrote about the USS _Constitution_ and galvanized the public to save her: [http://www.eldritchpress.org/owh/oldiron.html](http://www.eldritchpress.org/owh/oldiron.html)

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2013, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/december-botticelli/675169/318 "2013-12-16T19:28:15Z")

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In her first appearance in _The Marvelous Land of Oz_, Ozma spends all but the last chapter or two under the spell of the wicked witch Mombi, who has transformed her into… a boy (known as Tippetarius, or Tip for short). Glinda figures out how to reverse the spell.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2013, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/december-botticelli/675169/319 "2013-12-16T19:40:20Z")

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Ah - I didn’t know that! Thanks.

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2013, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/december-botticelli/675169/320 "2013-12-16T19:58:10Z")

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Nicely done, **ChockFull**!

> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> Take a DQ for #1.  
> #2) I’m not Oprah Winfrey.  
> #3) I’m not Oscar de la Renta.

As for these, you’re correct on Oprah and Oscar de la Renta. The French-born British agent was most often known simply as Odette.

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**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2013, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/december-botticelli/675169/321 "2013-12-16T21:25:15Z")

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Woo-hoo! It was the “most often female” that tipped (no pun intended) me off.

Next up…  
K

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