# December Botticelli

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/december-botticelli/675169>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [November 30, 2013, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/december-botticelli/675169 "2013-11-30T23:15:56Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2013, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/december-botticelli/675169/21 "2013-12-01T21:23:12Z")

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Those were:  
Monica Seles.  
Steffi Graf.

DQ1: Male  
DQ2: American

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**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2013, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/december-botticelli/675169/22 "2013-12-01T21:41:17Z")

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> [@etv78](#):
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> IQ: Along with #1 above, are you 1 of 2 American women to appear on currency?

Miss this?

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**Author:** ![fanganga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/58f4c7/32.png) [@fanganga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fanganga)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2013, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/december-botticelli/675169/23 "2013-12-01T23:04:37Z")

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IQ1: Did the gods condemn you to eternal labour?  
IQ2: Did you collapse a great building on top of yourself (and your enemies?)  
IQ3: Did your elder brother rebel against a mad king?

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2013, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/december-botticelli/675169/24 "2013-12-02T01:57:45Z")

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> [@etv78](#):
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> IQ: Along with #1 above, are you 1 of 2 American women to appear on currency?

Not Susan B Anthony.

> [@etv78](#):
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> Miss this?

No. The norm for this game is three IQs at a time, so I answered your first three.

> [@fanganga](#):
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> IQ1: Did the gods condemn you to eternal labour?  
> IQ2: Did you collapse a great building on top of yourself (and your enemies?)  
> IQ3: Did your elder brother rebel against a mad king?

Not Sisyphus.  
Not Samson.  
Not … Solomon?

**S**

1. Fictional
2. Male
3. American (for lack of evidence to the contrary, and for certain values of American)

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**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2013, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/december-botticelli/675169/25 "2013-12-02T02:09:46Z")

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Cool. I tried to slyly split my. posts

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**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2013, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/december-botticelli/675169/26 "2013-12-02T02:20:56Z")

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IQ: Was the actor best known for playing you paralyzed in an equestrian accident?

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2013, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/december-botticelli/675169/27 "2013-12-02T04:00:14Z")

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> [@etv78](#):
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> IQ: Was the actor best known for playing you paralyzed in an equestrian accident?

Still not Superman (post 12).

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**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2013, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/december-botticelli/675169/28 "2013-12-02T04:15:39Z")

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Duh! Missed that. Trying to determine what DQ answer 3 means.

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**Author:** ![fanganga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/58f4c7/32.png) [@fanganga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fanganga)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2013, 8:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/december-botticelli/675169/29 "2013-12-02T08:17:30Z")

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> [@fanganga](#):
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> IQ1: Did the gods condemn you to eternal labour?  
> IQ2: Did you collapse a great building on top of yourself (and your enemies?)  
> IQ3: Did your elder brother rebel against a mad king?

1: Was indeed Sisyphus  
2: Was indeed Samson  
3: Then you are not Stannis Baratheon, from the Song of Ice and Fire series.

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**Author:** ![fanganga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/58f4c7/32.png) [@fanganga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fanganga)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2013, 12:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/december-botticelli/675169/30 "2013-12-02T12:44:28Z")

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DQ: From a work set in the future?

IQ1: Are you in charge of a space station named after a Mesopotamian city?  
IQ2: Are you in charge of a spaceship named after a French province?  
IQ3: Are you in charge of the engine room on a spaceship named after an abstract noun?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2013, 1:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/december-botticelli/675169/31 "2013-12-02T13:00:13Z")

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IQs:

1. Are you the protagonist of Neil Gaiman’s _American Gods_?
2. Do you know?
3. Does everybody claim to be you?

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**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2013, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/december-botticelli/675169/32 "2013-12-02T17:51:32Z")

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IQ: Are you a Beethoven fanboy, who’s friends with a pitcher disrobed by comebackers?

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2013, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/december-botticelli/675169/33 "2013-12-02T23:13:51Z")

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> [@fanganga](#):
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> IQ1: Are you in charge of a space station named after a Mesopotamian city?  
> IQ2: Are you in charge of a spaceship named after a French province?  
> IQ3: Are you in charge of the engine room on a spaceship named after an abstract noun?

DQ. (Have never watched _Babylon 5_.)  
DQ.  
Not Montgomery Scott.

> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> IQs:
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> 1. Are you the protagonist of Neil Gaiman’s _American Gods_?
> 2. Do you know?
> 3. Does everybody claim to be you?

DQ.  
Not the Shadow.  
Not Spartacus.

> [@etv78](#):
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> IQ: Are you a Beethoven fanboy, who’s friends with a pitcher disrobed by comebackers?

Not Schroeder.

**S**

1. Fictional
2. Male
3. American (for certain values of American)
4. Not from a work set in the future

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2013, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/december-botticelli/675169/34 "2013-12-02T23:21:04Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> IQs:
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> 1. Are you the protagonist of Neil Gaiman’s _American Gods_?
> 2. Do you know?
> 3. Does everybody claim to be you?

> [@SCAdian](#):
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> DQ.  
> Not the Shadow.  
> Not Spartacus.

#1 is Shadow.

DQ: Protagonist?

IQs:

1. Were you the Demon Barber of Fleet Street?
2. Were you the first Christian martyr?
3. Are you a cartoon character who hosted a talk show?

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**Author:** ![fanganga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/58f4c7/32.png) [@fanganga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fanganga)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2013, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/december-botticelli/675169/35 "2013-12-02T23:44:16Z")

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> [@fanganga](#):
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> IQ1: Are you in charge of a space station named after a Mesopotamian city?  
> IQ2: Are you in charge of a spaceship named after a French province?  
> IQ3: Are you in charge of the engine room on a spaceship named after an abstract noun?

1: You were right that the space station is Babylon 5, the commander is **Jeffery Sinclair**  
2: **Commander Shepard** , who commanded the _Normandy_ in the Mass Effect Series of games - and as a video game protagonist, could be either male or female depending on player choice.  
3: As you said, Chief Engineer **Montgomery Scott** - otherwise known as Scotty

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2013, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/december-botticelli/675169/36 "2013-12-03T00:56:49Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> IQs:
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> 1. Were you the Demon Barber of Fleet Street?
> 2. Were you the first Christian martyr?
> 3. Are you a cartoon character who hosted a talk show?

Not Sweeney Todd.  
Not … Stephen?  
DQ.

**S**

1. Fictional
2. Male
3. American (for certain values of American)
4. Not from a work set in the future
5. Not a protagonist

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**Author:** ![fanganga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/58f4c7/32.png) [@fanganga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fanganga)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2013, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/december-botticelli/675169/37 "2013-12-03T01:08:09Z")

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DQ: From literature?

IQ1: Was your first appearance intimidating a witness in a Baltimore murder trial?  
IQ2: Are you a member of an Italian-American crime family that refused to deal in drugs?  
IQ3: Was giving you your name the meanest thing your father did?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2013, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/december-botticelli/675169/38 "2013-12-03T01:43:17Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> IQs:
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> 1. Were you the Demon Barber of Fleet Street?
> 2. Were you the first Christian martyr?
> 3. Are you a cartoon character who hosted a talk show?

> [@SCAdian](#):
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> Not Sweeney Todd.  
> Not … Stephen?  
> DQ.

Right on 1 and 2. Space Ghost had a talk show cartoon series with live action celebrities a couple o’ decades after his original series.

I’ll save the DQ for a moment.

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2013, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/december-botticelli/675169/39 "2013-12-03T02:43:39Z")

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> [@fanganga](#):
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> DQ: From literature?
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> IQ1: Was your first appearance intimidating a witness in a Baltimore murder trial?  
> IQ2: Are you a member of an Italian-American crime family that refused to deal in drugs?  
> IQ3: Was giving you your name the meanest thing your father did?

DQ.  
Not … Tony Soprano?  
Not Sue.

**S**

1. Fictional
2. Male
3. American (for certain values of American)
4. Not from a work set in the future
5. Not a protagonist
6. Not from literature

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [December 3, 2013, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/december-botticelli/675169/40 "2013-12-03T02:44:42Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> Space Ghost had a talk show cartoon series with live action celebrities a couple o’ decades after his original series.

Why?

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