# December Botticelli

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/december-botticelli/675169>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [November 30, 2013, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/december-botticelli/675169 "2013-11-30T23:15:56Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 21

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2013, 5:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/december-botticelli/675169/402 "2013-12-20T05:03:22Z")

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Previous IQs:

Were you a businessman and maybe a spy, and then later a diplomat? - Ratch Norren, in George R.R. Martin’s excellent sf short-story collection _Tuf Voyaging_.  
Did you give a funny pirate a head start? - Commodore Norrington in the first _Pirates of the Caribbean_ movie.  
Did Roger Rees famously play you? - 'Twas Nicholas Nickleby: [http://i.ebayimg.com/t/1981-OCTOBER-5-TIME-MAGAZINE-NICHOLAS-NICKLEBY-BT-7516-/00/s/NzY4WDEwMjQ=/$(KGrHqZHJB!E7)tN!JliBO846l1rEg~~60\_35.JPG](http://i.ebayimg.com/t/1981-OCTOBER-5-TIME-MAGAZINE-NICHOLAS-NICKLEBY-BT-7516-/00/s/NzY4WDEwMjQ=/$(KGrHqZHJB!E7)tN!JliBO846l1rEg~~60_35.JPG)

DQs:

Show broadcast in B&W?  
Considered supporting cast?  
Cop of some kind?

IQs:

Did Buzz Lightyear briefly go by this name?  
Did you win the unwelcome nickname “Commissary?”  
Does a statue of you stand in Langley, Va.?

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2013, 5:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/december-botticelli/675169/403 "2013-12-20T05:40:31Z")

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IQ1: Have you played the role of Max Bialystock?  
IQ2: Do you own the motel where Marion Crane got a room?  
IQ3: Were you the lead singer on “Travelin’ Soldier” and “Goodbye Earl”?

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**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2013, 7:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/december-botticelli/675169/404 "2013-12-20T07:07:02Z")

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I think you missed Post #382

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2013, 12:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/december-botticelli/675169/405 "2013-12-20T12:23:31Z")

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**N**

1. Fictional
2. Male
3. Not really the protagonist, but a “good guy”
4. Not from the movies
5. Appear in a visual medium
6. Not created after 1970
7. First name does not start with N
8. American
9. First appeared on TV
10. First TV appearance was not on a sitcom

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2013, 12:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/december-botticelli/675169/406 "2013-12-20T12:32:02Z")

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> [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](#):
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> I think you missed Post #382

Oops. Sorry - it wasn’t there when I started writing #383…

> [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](#):
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> IQ1: Do your amps go to 11?  
> IQ2: Did you see children in your magic mirror?  
> IQ3: Did you play piano on albums by The Beatles, The Rolling Stones, The Kinks and The Who?

Three DQs.

> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> IQs:
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> Did Buzz Lightyear briefly go by this name?  
> Did you win the unwelcome nickname “Commissary?”  
> Does a statue of you stand in Langley, Va.?

Not … Mrs Norris?  
DQ.  
DQ.

> [@Spoons](#):
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> IQ1: Have you played the role of Max Bialystock?  
> IQ2: Do you own the motel where Marion Crane got a room?  
> IQ3: Were you the lead singer on “Travelin’ Soldier” and “Goodbye Earl”?

Three DQs.

**N**

1. Fictional
2. Male
3. Not really the protagonist, but a “good guy”
4. Not from the movies
5. Appear in a visual medium
6. Not created after 1970
7. First name does not start with N
8. American
9. First appeared on TV
10. First TV appearance was not on a sitcom
11. Show broadcast in B&W
12. Not considered supporting cast
13. Not a cop of some kind

**Note:** I’ve never actually watched this show, so answers 3 and 12 are based on my impression of it. Basically, while this guy is one of the stars of the show, he’s not _the_ star.

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**Author:** ![fanganga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/58f4c7/32.png) [@fanganga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fanganga)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2013, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/december-botticelli/675169/407 "2013-12-20T13:41:16Z")

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DQ: Was the setting of the show contemporary to when it was first broadcast?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2013, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/december-botticelli/675169/408 "2013-12-20T17:42:47Z")

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Previous IQs:

Did Buzz Lightyear briefly go by this name? - Sid’s little sister dubbed Buzz “Mrs. Nesbit” for her doll tea party in the first _Toy Story_ movie.  
Did you win the unwelcome nickname “Commissary?” - Gen. Nathaniel Banks, from whom the Confederates captured a LOT of supplies.  
Does a statue of you stand in Langley, Va.? - Nathan Hale, an early American spy, on the grounds of CIA HQ.

DQs:

On an American TV show?  
Filmed before a live audience?  
Comedy?

IQs:

Was your best friend and fellow lodge member a bus driver?  
Did your staff have to change your stump speech when it was misinterpreted?  
Did you rise from private to major general in just four years?

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2013, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/december-botticelli/675169/409 "2013-12-20T18:07:33Z")

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> [@Spoons](#):
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> IQ1: Have you played the role of Max Bialystock?  
> IQ2: Do you own the motel where Marion Crane got a room?  
> IQ3: Were you the lead singer on “Travelin’ Soldier” and “Goodbye Earl”?

> [@SCAdian](#):
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> Three DQs.

Max Bialystock is a character in “The Producers,” and was played by Nathan Lane in the film remake. Marion Crane got a room at the Bates Motel, owned by Norman Bates. The songs were by the Dixie Chicks, who had Natalie Maines as their lead singer.

I’ll reserve my DQs for a while; the new answers will require some thinking about.

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**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2013, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/december-botticelli/675169/410 "2013-12-20T18:13:56Z")

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> [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](#):
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> IQ1: Do your amps go to 11?  
> IQ2: Did you see children in your magic mirror?  
> IQ3: Did you play piano on albums by The Beatles, The Rolling Stones, The Kinks and The Who?

1: Nigel Tufnil of Spinal Tap  
2: Miss Nancy, host of 60s-70s children’s show Romper Room  
3: Legendary session man Nicky Hopkins.

I’m going to wait for the answers to the previous DQs before trying any of my own.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2013, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/december-botticelli/675169/411 "2013-12-20T22:59:05Z")

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Going away for the weekend to a place in rural Ohio with spotty Internet service. I’ll try to check in.

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2013, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/december-botticelli/675169/412 "2013-12-20T23:09:49Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Going away for the weekend to a place in rural Ohio with spotty Internet service. I’ll try to check in.

I hope you’re able to connect, because …

> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Was your best friend and fellow lodge member a bus driver?

… yes, I am **Ed Norton** , friend and neighbour to Ralph Kramden.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2013, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/december-botticelli/675169/413 "2013-12-20T23:23:37Z")

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Well done, EH! And have a safe trip.

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2013, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/december-botticelli/675169/414 "2013-12-21T02:42:43Z")

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Good job, **EH**! Hope that you can check in to host the next round, and that you have a safe trip!

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2013, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/december-botticelli/675169/415 "2013-12-22T21:18:07Z")

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Back safe and sound, thanks, and good one, **SCAdian**!

My other IQs:

Did your staff have to change your stump speech when it was misinterpreted? - Richard Nixon, campaigning in 1960, included the line “We can’t stand pat” in his stump speech until it was pointed out that his wife’s name was Pat.  
Did you rise from private to major general in just four years? - Nathan Bedford Forrest, Confederate cavalry genius and later founder of the KKK.

Continuing the reverse-alphabetical trend, our next letter is

M.

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2013, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/december-botticelli/675169/416 "2013-12-22T21:29:38Z")

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IQ1: Do they say you ran away?  
IQ2: Did you take a sergeant to Cuba?  
IQ3: Are you a notoriously picky eater?

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**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2013, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/december-botticelli/675169/417 "2013-12-22T21:29:54Z")

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IQ: Did you survive a car wreck that apocryphally decapitated your mother?

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**Author:** ![fanganga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/58f4c7/32.png) [@fanganga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fanganga)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2013, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/december-botticelli/675169/418 "2013-12-22T22:57:13Z")

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Congratulations on the last round, EH.

IQ1: Did you accompany your husband to his home town while pregnant with a baby that wasn’t his?  
IQ2: Did you play a slacker, a spy and a swamp-dweller?  
IQ3: Was your original name “Jumpman”?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2013, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/december-botticelli/675169/419 "2013-12-23T03:08:42Z")

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IQs:

1. Were you dead to begin with, dead as a doornail?
2. Were you the O.K. President?
3. Were you Honest Abe’s wife?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2013, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/december-botticelli/675169/420 "2013-12-23T04:41:28Z")

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> [@SCAdian](#):
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> IQ1: Do they say you ran away?  
> IQ2: Did you take a sergeant to Cuba?  
> IQ3: Are you a notoriously picky eater?

Dunno the first two. Finally, not Madeline?

> [@etv78](#):
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> IQ: Did you survive a car wreck that apocryphally decapitated your mother?

Ooo, I should know this. Take a DQ.

> [@fanganga](#):
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> …IQ1: Did you accompany your husband to his home town while pregnant with a baby that wasn’t his?  
> IQ2: Did you play a slacker, a spy and a swamp-dweller?  
> IQ3: Was your original name “Jumpman”?

Dunno any of those!

> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> IQs:
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> 1. Were you dead to begin with, dead as a doornail?
> 2. Were you the O.K. President?
> 3. Were you Honest Abe’s wife?

Not Jacob Marley, Martin van Buren or Mary Todd Lincoln.

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2013, 5:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/december-botticelli/675169/421 "2013-12-23T05:03:33Z")

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IQ1: Did you play a role in Watergate under a pseudonym that might be familiar to both porn fans and otolaryngologists?  
IQ2: Has your character been asked “What’s it all about, Alfie?”  
IQ3: Have your film roles included Isabeau d’Anjou and Susie Diamond?

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