# December Botticelli **URL:** \ **Category:** Thread Games\ **Created:** [November 30, 2013, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/december-botticelli/675169 "2013-11-30T23:15:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 27
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2013, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/december-botticelli/675169/522 "2013-12-30T02:02:02Z")
DQ: Are or were you a head of state? ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2013, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/december-botticelli/675169/523 "2013-12-30T03:27:32Z")
Previous IQs: Did you say you’d be willing to take the janitor’s advice, if it was useful? - John F. Kennedy, eager for ideas as to how to match the Soviets in space exploration. Are you the daughter of that person? - Caroline Kennedy. Did you marry someone who was very hospitable to Winston Churchill late in Churchill’s life? - Jackie Kennedy, who eventually married Aristotle Onassis. The Greek billionaire deeply admired Churchill and hosted him many times on his yacht _Christina_. DQs: Ever been elected in what was widely considered a fair and open election? Do you now hold any political office? One DQ reserved. IQs: Did you admire a woman’s painting of you in her presence? Did you promise to return at Boreth? Did you receive a naval burial at sea even though you weren’t technically entitled to it? ---
**Author:** ![guylevesque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/6de8d8/32.png) [@guylevesque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/guylevesque)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2013, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/december-botticelli/675169/524 "2013-12-30T04:35:16Z")
> [@Spoons](#): > > IQ1: Did you create a comic book character who has been played in the movies by such stars as Michael Keaton, Val Kilmer, and George Clooney? > IQ2: Did you tell us about going Up the Down Staircase? > IQ3: Have you danced with Jerry the mouse, sung in the rain, and been an American in Paris? I am not Bob Kane or Gene Kelly. 1 DQ. > [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#): > > DQ: Are or were you a head of state? I am a current or former head of state indeed. > [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > DQs: > > Ever been elected in what was widely considered a fair and open election? > Do you now hold any political office? > > One DQ reserved. > > IQs: > > Did you admire a woman’s painting of you in her presence? > Did you promise to return at Boreth? > Did you receive a naval burial at sea even though you weren’t technically entitled to it? I have never been elected in what is considered a fair and open election and I currently am in office. I am not Kahless or DeForest Kelley (?) K 1. Real 2. Male 3. K is the initial of my last name 4. Alive 5. Born in the Northern hemisphere 6. Not American 7. Not born after 1950 8. Not European 9. Asian 10. Not known for the arts 11. Born east of Moscow 12. Known for my work in the political sphere 13. Current or former head of state 14. Never elected in a fair and open election 15. Currently holds a political office ---
**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2013, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/december-botticelli/675169/525 "2013-12-30T04:40:20Z")
IQ: Did you harbor a terrorist group that killed 3000 civilians? ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2013, 5:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/december-botticelli/675169/526 "2013-12-30T05:10:02Z")
> [@guylevesque](#): > > I am not Bob Kane or Gene Kelly. 1 DQ. Correct on Kane and Kelly. The author of “Up the Down Staricase” was Bel Kaufman. DQ: Been in office over ten years? More IQs: IQ1: Were you and your forces driven out of mainland China, so you ended up leading Taiwan instead? IQ2: Did you author the line, “We have met the enemy and he is us”? IQ3: Do you hold political office in an Asian country that has been occupied by US and allied forces since 2001? ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2013, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/december-botticelli/675169/527 "2013-12-30T17:13:40Z")
Previous IQs: Did you admire a woman’s painting of you in her presence? - Khan Noonien Singh, seeing Marla McGivers’s romanticized painting of him in her quarters. Did you promise to return at Boreth? - Yes, the Klingon hero-emperor Kahless. Did you receive a naval burial at sea even though you weren’t technically entitled to it? - John F. Kennedy Jr., by order of President Bill Clinton due to the Kennedy family’s contributions to the U.S. As to our mystery person, I suspect **Spoons** has it. Two DQs reserved just in case. ---
**Author:** ![guylevesque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/6de8d8/32.png) [@guylevesque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/guylevesque)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2013, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/december-botticelli/675169/528 "2013-12-30T17:25:48Z")
> [@etv78](#): > > IQ: Did you harbor a terrorist group that killed 3000 civilians? I am not Khalid Sheikh Mohammed. > [@Spoons](#): > > DQ: Been in office over ten years? > > More IQs: > > IQ1: Were you and your forces driven out of mainland China, so you ended up leading Taiwan instead? > IQ2: Did you author the line, “We have met the enemy and he is us”? > IQ3: Do you hold political office in an Asian country that has been occupied by US and allied forces since 2001? I’ve been in office for over 10 years but I’m not Chiang kai-Shek or Hamid Karzai. DQ for number 2. K 1. Real 2. Male 3. K is the initial of my last name 4. Alive 5. Born in the Northern hemisphere 6. Not American 7. Not born after 1950 8. Not European 9. Asian 10. Not known for the arts 11. Born east of Moscow 12. Known for my work in the political sphere 13. Current or former head of state 14. Never elected in a fair and open election 15. Currently holds a political office 16. Been in office over 10 years ---
**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2013, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/december-botticelli/675169/529 "2013-12-30T19:04:32Z")
IQ: Was your nation invaded in 1950? ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2013, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/december-botticelli/675169/530 "2013-12-30T19:43:53Z")
> [@guylevesque](#): > > I’ve been in office for over 10 years but I’m not Chiang kai-Shek or Hamid Karzai. DQ for number 2. Correct on Chiang Kai-shek and Hamid Karzai. The author of the quotation was Walt Kelly, the creator of the “Pogo” comic strip. DQ reserved for now. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2013, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/december-botticelli/675169/531 "2013-12-31T02:00:22Z")
Huh. I coulda sworn it would be Hamid Karzai. DQ: Born in or south of Beijing? One DQ reserved. IQs: Was your autobiography entitled _True Compass_? Were you, perhaps unfairly, shown to be a villain in _Breaker Morant_? Did you keep a dented helmet in your office? ---
**Author:** ![guylevesque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/6de8d8/32.png) [@guylevesque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/guylevesque)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2013, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/december-botticelli/675169/532 "2013-12-31T02:37:42Z")
> [@etv78](#): > > IQ: Was your nation invaded in 1950? Only Syngman Rhee in mind but not K so DQ. > [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > DQ: > > Born in or south of Beijing? > > One DQ reserved. > > IQs: > > Was your autobiography entitled _True Compass_? > Were you, perhaps unfairly, shown to be a villain in _Breaker Morant_? > Did you keep a dented helmet in your office? I am not Ted Kennedy. 2 DQs I was born slightly south of Beijing but you can consider my birthplace on the same latitude. K 1. Real 2. Male 3. K is the initial of my last name 4. Alive 5. Born in the Northern hemisphere 6. Not American 7. Not born after 1950 8. Not European 9. Asian 10. Not known for the arts 11. Born east of Moscow 12. Known for my work in the political sphere 13. Current or former head of state 14. Never elected in a fair and open election 15. Currently holds a political office 16. Been in office over 10 years 17. Born slightly south of Beijing but can be considered same latitude ---
**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2013, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/december-botticelli/675169/533 "2013-12-31T03:06:04Z")
DQ: Communist? ---
**Author:** ![guylevesque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/6de8d8/32.png) [@guylevesque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/guylevesque)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2013, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/december-botticelli/675169/534 "2013-12-31T03:09:33Z")
> [@etv78](#): > > DQ: Communist? Used to be a commie. K 1. Real 2. Male 3. K is the initial of my last name 4. Alive 5. Born in the Northern hemisphere 6. Not American 7. Not born after 1950 8. Not European 9. Asian 10. Not known for the arts 11. Born east of Moscow 12. Known for my work in the political sphere 13. Current or former head of state 14. Never elected in a fair and open election 15. Currently holds a political office 16. Been in office over 10 years 17. Born slightly south of Beijing but can be considered same latitude 18. Used to be a communist ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2013, 5:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/december-botticelli/675169/535 "2013-12-31T05:47:16Z")
> [@Spoons](#): > > DQ reserved for now. I’ll bring this one forward. DQ: Holding office in the People’s Republic of China? > [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > Huh. I coulda sworn it would be Hamid Karzai. Me too. Oh well. ---
**Author:** ![guylevesque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/6de8d8/32.png) [@guylevesque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/guylevesque)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2014, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/december-botticelli/675169/536 "2014-01-01T00:25:50Z")
> [@Spoons](#): > > I’ll bring this one forward. > > DQ: Holding office in the People’s Republic of China? > > Me too. Oh well. I’m not Chinese so no. K 1. Real 2. Male 3. K is the initial of my last name 4. Alive 5. Born in the Northern hemisphere 6. Not American 7. Not born after 1950 8. Not European 9. Asian 10. Not known for the arts 11. Born east of Moscow 12. Known for my work in the political sphere 13. Current or former head of state 14. Never elected in a fair and open election 15. Currently holds a political office 16. Been in office over 10 years 17. Born slightly south of Beijing but can be considered same latitude 18. Used to be a communist 19. Not holding office in China ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2014, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/december-botticelli/675169/537 "2014-01-01T00:55:10Z")
Well, I’m stumped. ---
**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2014, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/december-botticelli/675169/538 "2014-01-01T02:46:32Z")
Lost me several DQs back. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2014, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/december-botticelli/675169/539 "2014-01-01T03:25:07Z")
Previous IQs: Was your autobiography entitled _True Compass_? - Yes, Ted Kennedy. Were you, perhaps unfairly, shown to be a villain in _Breaker Morant_? - Lord Kitchener. Did you keep a dented helmet in your office? - Bobby Kennedy: [http://www.jfklibrary.org/Asset-Viewer/lwwajKKLZU65\_BjvYDzDig.aspx](http://www.jfklibrary.org/Asset-Viewer/lwwajKKLZU65_BjvYDzDig.aspx) A non-Chinese former Commie, now in public office, could be someone in Cambodia (who’s the president there now?), Laos or perhaps Hong Kong. Hmm. Three DQs earned, but just one left. What shall I ask? ---
**Author:** ![guylevesque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/6de8d8/32.png) [@guylevesque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/guylevesque)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2014, 5:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/december-botticelli/675169/540 "2014-01-01T05:33:13Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > Previous IQs: > > Was your autobiography entitled _True Compass_? - Yes, Ted Kennedy. > Were you, perhaps unfairly, shown to be a villain in _Breaker Morant_? - Lord Kitchener. > Did you keep a dented helmet in your office? - Bobby Kennedy: [http://www.jfklibrary.org/Asset-Viewer/lwwajKKLZU65\_BjvYDzDig.aspx](http://www.jfklibrary.org/Asset-Viewer/lwwajKKLZU65_BjvYDzDig.aspx) > > A non-Chinese former Commie, now in public office, could be someone in Cambodia (who’s the president there now?), Laos or perhaps Hong Kong. Hmm. > > Three DQs earned, but just one left. What shall I ask? Same latitude as Beijing so can’t be SE Asia. ---
**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2014, 5:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/december-botticelli/675169/541 "2014-01-01T05:40:32Z")
The 'stans are up around the latitude of Beijing, I think - anyone know who the honchos there are? Or maybe something in the Caucasus? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/december-botticelli/675169.md?page=26) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/december-botticelli/675169.md?page=28)