# December Botticelli

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/december-botticelli/675169>\
**Category:** Thread Games\
**Created:** [November 30, 2013, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/december-botticelli/675169 "2013-11-30T23:15:56Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 9

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**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2013, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/december-botticelli/675169/162 "2013-12-09T20:03:44Z")

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> [@Spoons](#):
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> No idea. Take a DQ.

John Clayton, lead villain of Disney’s Tarzan.

American?

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2013, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/december-botticelli/675169/163 "2013-12-09T20:30:50Z")

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> [@etv78](#):
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> IQ: Did you help Jimmy Stewart realize life was worth living?

I’m not Clarence the angel.

> [@Inner\_Stickler](#):
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> John Clayton, lead villain of Disney’s Tarzan.
> 
> American?

Summary for C:

1. Not real.
2. Male.
3. Possibly American, though nationality is never made clear.

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**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2013, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/december-botticelli/675169/164 "2013-12-09T20:38:18Z")

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IQ:  
Was your best friend as a child a stuffed tiger?

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2013, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/december-botticelli/675169/165 "2013-12-09T20:39:39Z")

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> [@Inner\_Stickler](#):
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> IQ:  
> Was your best friend as a child a stuffed tiger?

I’m not Calvin, of “Calvin and Hobbes.”

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2013, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/december-botticelli/675169/166 "2013-12-09T20:44:03Z")

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IQs:

1. Is one of your best remember quotes: “Delenda est Carthago”?
2. Are you one of the best known living female artists today, known for large installation art pieces?
3. Were you the undisputed top entertainer of the 1st half of the 20th Century?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2013, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/december-botticelli/675169/167 "2013-12-09T21:04:31Z")

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IQs:

Were you a newscaster who shared a last name with a Nelson-era admiral?  
Were you that admiral?  
Are you the current Duke of Rothesay?

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2013, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/december-botticelli/675169/168 "2013-12-09T21:21:26Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> IQs:
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> 1. Is one of your best remember quotes: “Delenda est Carthago”?
> 2. Are you one of the best known living female artists today, known for large installation art pieces?
> 3. Were you the undisputed top entertainer of the 1st half of the 20th Century?

For 1, I’ll say Cato; for 3 I’ll guess Charlie Chaplin. Take a DQ for 2.

> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> IQs:
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> Were you a newscaster who shared a last name with a Nelson-era admiral?  
> Were you that admiral?  
> Are you the current Duke of Rothesay?

I’m thinking 1 and 2 might be “Cronkite,” but that’s only a WAG. Three DQs.

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2013, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/december-botticelli/675169/169 "2013-12-09T23:10:42Z")

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> [@SCAdian](#):
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> Q1: Did you devise extremely complex methods of accomplishing tasks?  
> IQ2: Did you commemorate your victories with engraved silver cups?  
> IQ3: Did you go home last night and put a bullet through your head?

> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> I am not Rube Goldberg. I am not Paul Revere. I am not Richard Cory.

Correct on Rube Goldberg and Richard Cory.  
#2 was Manfred von Richthofen.  
IQ1: Were you born in a cabin your father built, on the coast of Angola?  
IQ2: Was your brother the target of the Glorious Revolution?  
IQ3: Were you the skipper of a riverboat in Africa in the early part of the 20th century?

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2013, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/december-botticelli/675169/170 "2013-12-09T23:48:52Z")

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> [@SCAdian](#):
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> IQ1: Were you born in a cabin your father built, on the coast of Angola?  
> IQ2: Was your brother the target of the Glorious Revolution?  
> IQ3: Were you the skipper of a riverboat in Africa in the early part of the 20th century?

For number 2, I’m not Charles II. Take DQs for 1 and 3.

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2013, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/december-botticelli/675169/171 "2013-12-10T00:18:35Z")

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> [@SCAdian](#):
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> IQ1: Were you born in a cabin your father built, on the coast of Angola?  
> IQ2: Was your brother the target of the Glorious Revolution?  
> IQ3: Were you the skipper of a riverboat in Africa in the early part of the 20th century?

> [@Spoons](#):
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> For number 2, I’m not Charles II. Take DQs for 1 and 3.

John Clayton, Viscount Greystoke (aka Tarzan).  
Correct on Charles II.  
Charlie Allnut was the skipper of the _African Queen_.  
DQ1: From literature?  
DQ2: If real, would you be alive today?  
IQ1: Did you play a prehistoric woman visited by astronauts?  
IQ2: Were you a fictional schoolteacher who lived in 18th-century New York?  
IQ3: Are you a balding comedian?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2013, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/december-botticelli/675169/172 "2013-12-10T00:35:20Z")

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> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> IQs:
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> 1. Is one of your best remember quotes: “Delenda est Carthago”?
> 2. Are you one of the best known living female artists today, known for large installation art pieces?
> 3. Were you the undisputed top entertainer of the 1st half of the 20th Century?

> [@Spoons](#):
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> For 1, I’ll say Cato; for 3 I’ll guess Charlie Chaplin. Take a DQ for 2.

#1 is indeed Marcus Cato. #2 is Judy Chicago.  
#3 is Bing Crosby, who lead in record sales, radio ratings, and was the top box office draw from circa 1934 to 1954.

I’ll do the DQs later.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2013, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/december-botticelli/675169/173 "2013-12-10T04:16:44Z")

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Previous IQs:

Were you a newscaster who shared a last name with a Nelson-era admiral? - Charles Collingwood  
Were you that admiral? - Cuthbert Collingwood  
Are you the current Duke of Rothesay? - Charles, Prince of Wales (it’s his Scottish title)

DQs:

First appeared in fiction after 1925?  
Last name starts with C?  
Generally considered a “good guy”?

IQs:

Did you direct a movie about adoptive brothers of different races?  
Were you one of two men “who would be king”?  
Did you paint just one, and only one, painting during a war?

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2013, 9:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/december-botticelli/675169/174 "2013-12-10T09:20:15Z")

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Kicking myself over the African Queen–how many times have I seen that movie?

Let’s deal with the DQs first:

> [@](#):
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> DQ1: From literature?  
> DQ2: If real, would you be alive today?

> [@](#):
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> First appeared in fiction after 1925?  
> Last name starts with C?  
> Generally considered a “good guy”?

Summary for C:

1. Not real.
2. Male.
3. Possibly American, though nationality is never made clear.
4. Not from literature.
5. I would likely be alive today.
6. I first appeared in fiction after 1925.
7. Everybody treats me as if my last name starts with C.
8. I am generally considered a good guy.

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2013, 9:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/december-botticelli/675169/175 "2013-12-10T09:27:01Z")

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Now, on to the IQs:

> [@SCAdian](#):
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> IQ1: Did you play a prehistoric woman visited by astronauts?  
> IQ2: Were you a fictional schoolteacher who lived in 18th-century New York?  
> IQ3: Are you a balding comedian?

For 1, I’ll say Imogene Coca (from the 60s show “It’s About Time”). For 3, I’ll guess Charlie Callas. Take a DQ for 2; and another for 3, if I’m wrong.

> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> IQs:
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> Did you direct a movie about adoptive brothers of different races?  
> Were you one of two men “who would be king”?  
> Did you paint just one, and only one, painting during a war?

For 2, I’ll say Peachey Carnahan (sp?), from Kipling’s “The Man Who Would Be King.” Two DQs for 1 and 3.

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**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2013, 11:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/december-botticelli/675169/176 "2013-12-10T11:31:29Z")

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> [@SCAdian](#):
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> IQ1: Did you play a prehistoric woman visited by astronauts?  
> IQ2: Were you a fictional schoolteacher who lived in 18th-century New York?  
> IQ3: Are you a balding comedian?

> [@Spoons](#):
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> For 1, I’ll say Imogene Coca (from the 60s show “It’s About Time”). For 3, I’ll guess Charlie Callas. Take a DQ for 2; and another for 3, if I’m wrong.

Correct on Imogene Coca.  
Ichabod Crane.  
Never heard of Callas - I was thinking of Colin Mochrie.  
DQ: From a movie (or series thereof)?  
Too early in the morning to think of more IQs…

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**Author:** ![fanganga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/58f4c7/32.png) [@fanganga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fanganga)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2013, 1:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/december-botticelli/675169/177 "2013-12-10T13:11:26Z")

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IQ: Does your name appear in the title of your work although you only appear as a disembodied voice?

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2013, 1:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/december-botticelli/675169/178 "2013-12-10T13:13:15Z")

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DQ: from TV?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2013, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/december-botticelli/675169/179 "2013-12-10T14:03:37Z")

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Previous IQs:

Did you direct a movie about adoptive brothers of different races? - I thought Joe Carnahan directed _Four Brothers_, but I was wrong. Withdrawn.  
Were you one of two men “who would be king”? - Yes, Peachey Carnehan.  
Did you paint just one, and only one, painting during a war? - Winston Churchill, while in Morocco in 1943.

DQ:

First appeared in a movie?

IQs:

Did you strongly promote Whitney Houston’s career?  
Were you a top Thatcher aide brought down by a sex scandal?  
Were you the British Foreign Secretary when Argentina invaded the Falklands?

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2013, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/december-botticelli/675169/180 "2013-12-10T19:39:10Z")

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> [@SCAdian](#):
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> DQ: From a movie (or series thereof)?

Not from a movie or movie series.

> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#):
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> DQ: from TV?

Yes, from TV.

> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> DQ:
> 
> First appeared in a movie?

As you can see, **EH** , **SCAdian** already asked this. Ask another DQ.

Summary for C:

1. Not real.
2. Male.
3. Possibly American, though nationality is never made clear.
4. Not from literature.
5. I would likely be alive today.
6. I first appeared in fiction after 1925.
7. Everybody treats me as if my last name starts with C.
8. I am generally considered a good guy.
9. Not from a movie.
10. From TV.

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2013, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/december-botticelli/675169/181 "2013-12-10T19:50:02Z")

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> [@fanganga](#):
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> IQ: Does your name appear in the title of your work although you only appear as a disembodied voice?

No idea. Take a DQ.

> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> IQs:
> 
> Did you strongly promote Whitney Houston’s career?  
> Were you a top Thatcher aide brought down by a sex scandal?  
> Were you the British Foreign Secretary when Argentina invaded the Falklands?

Three DQs. I have a feeling I’ll kick myself over these, as Houston was a big favourite of a long-ago girlfriend; and I well remember following the Falklands War when it happened. Ah well, nothing is coming to mind, so … three DQs.

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