# Decided:Smokers are not people

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/decided-smokers-are-not-people/531612>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 7, 2010, 11:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/decided-smokers-are-not-people/531612 "2010-03-07T11:49:45Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![elbows](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b3f665/32.png) [@elbows](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elbows)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2010, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/decided-smokers-are-not-people/531612/21 "2010-03-07T14:51:48Z")

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You gonna wish death on the next people who cook stinky fish?

Grow up. If you’re so sensitive and feel so entitled that you think you have the right to control other people’s actions lest something should waft over to where you are, then you need to be living somewhere where the houses are further apart.

If you choose to live where people are packed cheek to jowl then you have to take your lumps.

Repeat after me: I only have the right to determine what happens up to but not beyond my property line. It’s true for me, you and everybody else in the world, so get used to it.

I’m confident you’d be flipping out over a noisy motorcycle, a firepit or noisy air conditioner if that was your particular sensitivity. If you’re that delicate then move to the damn country and let people of more tolerance live together in neighbourhoods.

You’re wishing death on someone who is across the street on his own porch? Grow up.

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**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2010, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/decided-smokers-are-not-people/531612/22 "2010-03-07T14:54:16Z")

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**Resolved** : Ronald Reagan was not human,  
and he [forced his inhumanity unto others.](http://www.mediastorehouse.com/pictures_618148/reagan-chesterfield-ad.html)

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**Author:** ![Sapo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@Sapo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sapo)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2010, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/decided-smokers-are-not-people/531612/23 "2010-03-07T14:55:40Z")

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> [@ivan\_astikov](#):
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> Couldn’t we just buy you one of those little battery-operated fans, and call it a truce?

Make it one of those that spray water and has bright color lights and I might think about it. I reserve the right to still be pissed at your expenditure of my taxes on healthcare, though.

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**Author:** ![DianaG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7ab992/32.png) [@DianaG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DianaG)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2010, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/decided-smokers-are-not-people/531612/24 "2010-03-07T14:57:06Z")

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You know what else people do that costs me money in taxes? Get old. Fuckers.

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**Author:** ![CircleofWillis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/54ee81/32.png) [@CircleofWillis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CircleofWillis)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2010, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/decided-smokers-are-not-people/531612/25 "2010-03-07T14:57:47Z")

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The OP in this thread has inspired me to take up smoking just in the off chance that I am also one of his neighbors…

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**Author:** ![fubbleskag](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@fubbleskag](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fubbleskag)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2010, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/decided-smokers-are-not-people/531612/26 "2010-03-07T15:01:18Z")

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**elbows** , even without the presence of a 😛 I think it’s pretty obvious OP is tongue-in-cheek?

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**Author:** ![Sapo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@Sapo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sapo)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2010, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/decided-smokers-are-not-people/531612/27 "2010-03-07T15:05:19Z")

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> [@elbows](#):
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> You gonna wish death on the next people who cook stinky fish?

Your stinky fish won’t give me cancer nor burden the healthcare system (if handled and cooked properly, that is)

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> If you choose to live where people are packed cheek to jowl then you have to take your lumps.

I do, hence my pitting of him (and all smokers in general) on the wonderful anonymity of the internet as opposed to hollering at him from my porch and spitting on his lawn.

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> I’m confident you’d be flipping out over a noisy motorcycle

Damn straight I do, and for the same reasons. Assholes who think the right of one to annoy supersedes the right of many to live peacefully deserve nothing but scorn. The other two would have to depend on local regulations, I guess. I don’t “flip out” though. I just wish them dead in the privacy of my thoughts and carry on with my merry life. They are free to carry on without nary a trouble from me.

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> You’re wishing death on someone who is across the street on his own porch? Grow up.

no u

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**Author:** ![DianaG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7ab992/32.png) [@DianaG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DianaG)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2010, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/decided-smokers-are-not-people/531612/28 "2010-03-07T15:06:44Z")

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If you get cancer from someone smoking across the street, then it’s probably best that your faulty genes are removed from the pool.

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**Author:** ![Sapo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@Sapo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sapo)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2010, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/decided-smokers-are-not-people/531612/29 "2010-03-07T15:07:47Z")

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> [@DianaG](#):
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> You know what else people do that costs me money in taxes? Get old. Fuckers.

And the day they discover that blue hair dye causes cancer I might just go on a rampage. I just about had it of getting all that second hand bingo.

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**Author:** ![Sapo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@Sapo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sapo)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2010, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/decided-smokers-are-not-people/531612/30 "2010-03-07T15:10:48Z")

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> [@CircleofWillis](#):
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> The OP in this thread has inspired me to take up smoking just in the off chance that I am also one of his neighbors..

Do you have a gray Corolla or a blue Pathfinder? How _you_ doing, if the first. Curse your noisy dog if the second.

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**Author:** ![DianaG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7ab992/32.png) [@DianaG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DianaG)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2010, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/decided-smokers-are-not-people/531612/31 "2010-03-07T15:25:24Z")

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You know, everybody’s got their something. Personally, I hate slow people. Haaaaaaaaate. If I could, I’d commute with a cattle prod in hand. And bet your ass I’ve occasionally wished the whole bovine lot of them would drop dead, which would allow me to step over them, thus cutting my commute time by probably a third, at least. Are they killing me with cancer? No, but I’m likely to die of old age wishing that some stupid fat laggard would get the fuck out of my way.

Thing is, tazing sloths doesn’t result in much social approbation. Picking on smokers is like picking on lepers. Oooh, that’s a real controversial stand you’re taking there, you badass you.

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**Author:** ![coffeecat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/coffeecat/32/3405_2.png) [@coffeecat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/coffeecat)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2010, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/decided-smokers-are-not-people/531612/32 "2010-03-07T15:37:01Z")

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Fucking lepers. Dropping their fingers on my lawn.

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**Author:** ![Sapo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@Sapo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sapo)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2010, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/decided-smokers-are-not-people/531612/33 "2010-03-07T15:44:18Z")

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> [@DianaG](#):
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> … Oooh, that’s a real controversial stand you’re taking there, you badass you.

Nah. You said it yourself. We all have our something. I just felt like whining about mine today. You can whine about yours any day. Give it a try, it could be fun.

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**Author:** ![elbows](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b3f665/32.png) [@elbows](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elbows)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2010, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/decided-smokers-are-not-people/531612/34 "2010-03-07T15:59:46Z")

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I have no problem with a little whining and venting, it’s good for the spleen, I’m sure.

But wishing death on someone, even in jest, even on the intranets, not something I’m up for. Can’t get behind it, sorry.

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**Author:** ![Hal\_Briston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2010, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/decided-smokers-are-not-people/531612/35 "2010-03-07T16:00:30Z")

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> [@ivan\_astikov](#):
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> You’ll never take my cigs while these lungs are still spluttering.

Awesome username/post combo.

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**Author:** ![Sapo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@Sapo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sapo)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2010, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/decided-smokers-are-not-people/531612/36 "2010-03-07T16:05:51Z")

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> [@elbows](#):
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> I have no problem with a little whining and venting, it’s good for the spleen, I’m sure.
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> But wishing death on someone, even in jest, even on the intranets, not something I’m up for. Can’t get behind it, sorry.

If my death wishes had any effect, this guy wouldn’t even make it to my top 50 list. They don’t so I feel no remorse in casually wishing death on anything that breathes wrong in a 200 mile radius around me.

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**Author:** ![elbows](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b3f665/32.png) [@elbows](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elbows)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2010, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/decided-smokers-are-not-people/531612/37 "2010-03-07T16:08:28Z")

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> [@](#):
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> casually wishing death on

_:::::::shiver:::::::_

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**Author:** ![Alice\_The\_Goon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Alice\_The\_Goon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alice_The_Goon)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2010, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/decided-smokers-are-not-people/531612/38 "2010-03-07T16:39:28Z")

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I’m not a big supporter of the smokers, although I do think they are still people. But the day you can’t sit on your own damn porch and do whatever you want that’s legal, is the day I don’t want to live in America anymore.

You know who else didn’t want people to have the freedom to smoke on their own front porch? Hitler.

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**Author:** ![fubbleskag](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@fubbleskag](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fubbleskag)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2010, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/decided-smokers-are-not-people/531612/39 "2010-03-07T16:41:25Z")

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and… SCENE!

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**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2010, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/decided-smokers-are-not-people/531612/40 "2010-03-07T16:46:25Z")

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[Hrmmmmmm…](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9ySCcnoo3c)

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