# Decided:Smokers are not people **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 7, 2010, 11:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/decided-smokers-are-not-people/531612 "2010-03-07T11:49:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![blondebear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blondebear/32/1022_2.png) [@blondebear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blondebear)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2010, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/decided-smokers-are-not-people/531612/41 "2010-03-07T16:47:21Z")
If smokers aren’t people, then who can I blame for the cigarette butts scattered everywhere I look? (The obvious answer is “litterers”, of course…but they have to get them somewhere!) ---
**Author:** ![BigBertha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d78d45/32.png) [@BigBertha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigBertha)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2010, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/decided-smokers-are-not-people/531612/42 "2010-03-07T17:48:17Z")
The op struck me as so over the top it was clever and funny. run over them at will! Hey, I shall trade you. My next door apt neighbor blasts his radio at 4 am and he doesn’t leave for work til 8 so i get hours less sleep than I usually would. My health is suffeirng. I would gladly have your neighbor come over and smoke in my bedroom instead of this! ---
**Author:** ![Sapo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@Sapo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sapo)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2010, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/decided-smokers-are-not-people/531612/43 "2010-03-07T20:38:22Z")
> [@blondebear](#): > > If smokers aren’t people, then who can I blame for the cigarette butts scattered everywhere I look? (The obvious answer is “litterers”, of course…but they have to get them somewhere!) Their owners, I guess. And they better be declawed. ---
**Author:** ![Sapo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@Sapo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sapo)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2010, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/decided-smokers-are-not-people/531612/44 "2010-03-07T20:39:37Z")
> [@BigBertha](#): > > The op struck me as so over the top it was clever and funny. > run over them at will! > > Hey, I shall trade you. My next door apt neighbor blasts his radio at 4 am and he doesn’t leave for work til 8 so i get hours less sleep than I usually would. My health is suffeirng. I would gladly have your neighbor come over and smoke in my bedroom instead of this! In your bedroom? I don’t think it is the music that is keeping you awake. A bit hot over there? ---
**Author:** ![Sapo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@Sapo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sapo)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2010, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/decided-smokers-are-not-people/531612/45 "2010-03-07T20:41:05Z")
> [@elbows](#): > > _:::::::shiver:::::::_ BOOO! ---
**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2010, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/decided-smokers-are-not-people/531612/46 "2010-03-07T20:56:15Z")
You know [who](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Bundesarchiv_Bild_183-S33882,_Adolf_Hitler_retouched.jpg) else didn’t like smoking? ---
**Author:** ![Sapo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@Sapo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sapo)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2010, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/decided-smokers-are-not-people/531612/47 "2010-03-07T21:04:46Z")
> [@Malacandra](#): > > You know [who](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Bundesarchiv_Bild_183-S33882,_Adolf_Hitler_retouched.jpg) else didn’t like smoking? Alice the Goon? ---
**Author:** ![Tethered\_Kite](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a5b964/32.png) [@Tethered\_Kite](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tethered_Kite)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2010, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/decided-smokers-are-not-people/531612/48 "2010-03-07T21:05:17Z")
Learn gracious and skillful tolerance of other’s annoying habits. This decade it is smokers. Next decade it may be drinkers or one of your favorite, but risky, and annoying habits. This will not only serve you well and rest your spirit in this life but may earn you points toward not reincarnating as a shrew. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2010, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/decided-smokers-are-not-people/531612/49 "2010-03-07T21:16:42Z")
> [@elbows](#): > > _:::::::shiver:::::::_ Is it about time for the phrase “chilling effect” to be used? Because that’s my current something. I want to take the people who use that phrase seriously and stick them in a meat locker for a day or two. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9fc348/32.png) [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Flying_Dutchman)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2010, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/decided-smokers-are-not-people/531612/50 "2010-03-07T21:45:20Z")
The OP would never survive in my part of the world. Lots of us have fireplaces and wood stoves. Just like the hardy pioneers. They just don’t make people like they used to. ---
**Author:** ![elbows](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b3f665/32.png) [@elbows](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elbows)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2010, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/decided-smokers-are-not-people/531612/51 "2010-03-07T22:36:06Z")
> [@](#): > > Is it about time for the phrase “chilling effect” to be used? Because that’s my current something. I want to take the people who use that phrase seriously and stick them in a meat locker for a day or two. Well it’s nice to see that someone’s willing to give **Sapo** a run for his money in the ‘overly sensitive delicate flower’ category. You do know you’re in the pit, right? And the word ‘shiver’ sets you off? It’s true what they say, it takes all kinds to make a world! ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2010, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/decided-smokers-are-not-people/531612/52 "2010-03-07T23:24:12Z")
> [@elbows](#): > > Well it’s nice to see that someone’s willing to give **Sapo** a run for his money in the ‘overly sensitive delicate flower’ category. Says the person who gets all a-shiver at a random internet tough guy. ---
**Author:** ![Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heffalump_and_roo/32/7691_2.png) [@Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Heffalump_and_Roo)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2010, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/decided-smokers-are-not-people/531612/53 "2010-03-07T23:50:21Z")
Not to take away from your rant, but I just had a couple thoughts. Could you ask him to smoke somewhere else? Like maybe the back of his house? And would an air filter help? Even with the windows open, I think mine does help with obvious things like smoke. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2010, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/decided-smokers-are-not-people/531612/54 "2010-03-08T00:05:43Z")
> [@blondebear](#): > > If smokers aren’t people, then who can I blame for the cigarette butts scattered everywhere I look? (The obvious answer is “litterers”, of course…but they have to get them somewhere!) Dogs. When I was quitting smoking, everyone I saw smoked. Joggers, toddlers, everyone. People walking their dogs smoked, and I’m sure I saw the dogs smoking too. ---
**Author:** ![unclviny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/e274bd/32.png) [@unclviny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/unclviny)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2010, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/decided-smokers-are-not-people/531612/55 "2010-03-08T00:47:46Z")
> [@Sapo](#): > > and we should be able to drive over them at will. > > Our asshole neighbor from across the street was kicked out of the house by his asshole wife a few months ago. I thought I was happy because there would be no more yelling. Now that he is back, I don’t really care about the yelling (maybe because they are not back to their everyday rhythm). I am pissed that this turdsack just sits on his porch and smokes like the judge ordered him to die of cancer before next month. Guess which way the wind blows. > > I could console myself hoping he will get cancer in the tongue and die a painful death but then I remember that it won’t just take too long, but it will also be paid from my taxes. > > Die, motherfucker. But die faster. > > I wish it were legal to assist him with his death wish. The price of a tire and a suspension arm sounds more than acceptable. As a smoker I must point out that he is outside!, what the hell does your delicate flower ass want? On second thought I completely agree with you, smokers should be immediately and harshly terminated with no trial or investigation at all and when the smokers are all gone I say that we start on folks that call themselves Sapo on the Intertoobz. Unclviny ---
**Author:** ![Sapo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@Sapo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sapo)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2010, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/decided-smokers-are-not-people/531612/56 "2010-03-08T02:17:04Z")
> [@unclviny](#): > > As a smoker I must point out that he is outside!, what the hell does your delicate flower ass want? The he go under the wheels of my hulking SUV. Was that not clear? > [@](#): > > On second thought I completely agree with you, smokers should be immediately and harshly terminated with no trial or investigation at all and when the smokers are all gone I say that we start on folks that call themselves Sapo on the Intertoobz. Glad you see it my way. Oh wait. That sounds like a really narrow category, I feel targeted now. Still, I might have me some time while you work on the smokers. Start with those. ---
**Author:** ![Sapo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@Sapo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sapo)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2010, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/decided-smokers-are-not-people/531612/57 "2010-03-08T02:20:37Z")
> [@Heffalump\_and\_Roo](#): > > Not to take away from your rant, but I just had a couple thoughts. Could you ask him to smoke somewhere else? Like maybe the back of his house? And would an air filter help? Even with the windows open, I think mine does help with obvious things like smoke. C’mon. He is in HIS house. He can do what he wants. It would be ridiculous of me to choose for him the places in his house where he can smoke. I just smile and wave at him when we see each other taking out the trash at night and politely ask about his kids when we meet at the school waiting for them. And then come to my computer and wish him dead on the internet. It might not be the most orthodox of social lubrications but whatever works, right? ---
**Author:** ![Sapo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@Sapo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sapo)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2010, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/decided-smokers-are-not-people/531612/58 "2010-03-08T02:25:13Z")
> [@elbows](#): > > Well it’s nice to see that someone’s willing to give **Sapo** a run for his money in the ‘overly sensitive delicate flower’ category. I don’t think you are clear in how this works. > [@](#): > > You do know you’re in the pit, right? And the word ‘shiver’ sets you off No wait, maybe you do. And yet people who wish smokers dead and who want to put people who say “chilling effect” put in to meat lockers set you off. You are weird. > [@](#): > > It’s true what they say, it takes all kinds to make a world! In diddly deed. ---
**Author:** ![SoulFrost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f07891/32.png) [@SoulFrost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SoulFrost)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2010, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/decided-smokers-are-not-people/531612/59 "2010-03-08T02:48:47Z")
> [@Sapo](#): > > social lubrications So… you don’t _just_ want him dead, then? ---
**Author:** ![Alice\_The\_Goon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Alice\_The\_Goon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alice_The_Goon)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2010, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/decided-smokers-are-not-people/531612/60 "2010-03-08T03:06:11Z")
Have you tried looking at him pointedly and fake coughing? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/decided-smokers-are-not-people/531612.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/decided-smokers-are-not-people/531612.md?page=4)