# Deck The Halls With Smith and Wesson **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 30, 2007, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deck-the-halls-with-smith-and-wesson/428327 "2007-11-30T17:12:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![DanBlather](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f4b2a3/32.png) [@DanBlather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DanBlather)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2007, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deck-the-halls-with-smith-and-wesson/428327/1 "2007-11-30T17:12:23Z")
Just saw an ad in The Oregonian for a “Holiday Sale” at a local gun shop. It was complete with holly, snowflakes and other symbols of the season. At least they didn’t have a picture of baby Jesus. ---
**Author:** ![Cluricaun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/bb73d2/32.png) [@Cluricaun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cluricaun)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2007, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deck-the-halls-with-smith-and-wesson/428327/2 "2007-11-30T17:13:29Z")
_Wesson_. Smith and _Wesson_. ---
**Author:** ![Sailboat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sailboat/32/461_2.png) [@Sailboat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sailboat)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2007, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deck-the-halls-with-smith-and-wesson/428327/3 "2007-11-30T17:14:49Z")
Are the “Smith and Weston” models on sale because they’re cheap knockoffs of [Smith & Wesson](http://www.smith-wesson.com/)? Sailboat ---
**Author:** ![Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airman_Doors_USAF)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2007, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deck-the-halls-with-smith-and-wesson/428327/4 "2007-11-30T17:16:13Z")
Good for them. Why, exactly, is this a problem? Incidentally, I prefer Rugers, Sigs, and Glocks myself. That would get my attention a hell of a lot faster than an ad for Smith and Wesson, what with their failure-prone internal locks and all. ---
**Author:** ![Cowgirl\_Jules](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4af34b/32.png) [@Cowgirl\_Jules](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cowgirl_Jules)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2007, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deck-the-halls-with-smith-and-wesson/428327/5 "2007-11-30T18:13:30Z")
Hey, I’m buying my kid a gun for Christmas. Why shouldn’t I get sales too? ---
**Author:** ![DanBlather](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f4b2a3/32.png) [@DanBlather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DanBlather)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2007, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deck-the-halls-with-smith-and-wesson/428327/6 "2007-11-30T18:25:16Z")
[QUOTE=Airman Doors, USAF] Good for them. Why, exactly, is this a problem? [/QUOTE] For the season in which we celebrate The Prince of Peace who preached turn the other cheek it seems ironic and disrepectful. But then I never got the attractions of guns (obviously from my spelling :smack: ). ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2007, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deck-the-halls-with-smith-and-wesson/428327/7 "2007-11-30T18:32:43Z")
[QUOTE=DanBlather] Just saw an ad in The Oregonian for a “Holiday Sale” at a local gun shop. It was complete with holly, snowflakes and other symbols of the season. At least they didn’t have a picture of baby Jesus. [/QUOTE] Praise God and pass the ammunition. Or, since we’re decking with Smith and Weston, as they say in my Science chatroom games: Praseodymium and pass the Ammonites! ---
**Author:** ![Cluricaun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/bb73d2/32.png) [@Cluricaun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cluricaun)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2007, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deck-the-halls-with-smith-and-wesson/428327/8 "2007-11-30T18:32:48Z")
[QUOTE=DanBlather] For the season in which we celebrate The Prince of Peace who preached turn the other cheek it seems ironic and disrepectful. But then I never got the attractions of guns (obviously from my spelling :smack: ). [/QUOTE] How about the attraction of capitalism or the attraction of the idea that guns are not inherently violent? Either of those grab you? ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2007, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deck-the-halls-with-smith-and-wesson/428327/9 "2007-11-30T18:32:12Z")
[QUOTE=DanBlather] For the season in which we celebrate The Prince of Peace who preached turn the other cheek it seems ironic and disrepectful. But then I never got the attractions of guns (obviously from my spelling :smack: ). [/QUOTE] Yeah, because we know the only thing guns can be used for is killing people. Got it. ---
**Author:** ![Swampwolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8edcca/32.png) [@Swampwolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Swampwolf)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2007, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deck-the-halls-with-smith-and-wesson/428327/10 "2007-11-30T18:32:52Z")
But…You’ll shoot your eye out! ---
**Author:** ![Bobotheoptimist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/919ad9/32.png) [@Bobotheoptimist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bobotheoptimist)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2007, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deck-the-halls-with-smith-and-wesson/428327/11 "2007-11-30T18:33:29Z")
Matthew 10:34 (I think) “Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law” Would a sword sale would be ok? What if I use the gun I buy on sale for something other than killing people? Since only a small fraction of my guns have ever been used against a person, the odds are pretty high that the “Prince of Peace” would be more bothered by my worshiping the old gods, I suspect. ---
**Author:** ![Eureka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/74df32/32.png) [@Eureka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eureka)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2007, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deck-the-halls-with-smith-and-wesson/428327/12 "2007-11-30T18:45:16Z")
Count me in the “meh. Why shouldn’t gun owners/buyers/fans get sales during the holiday season along with everyone else?” category. It’s the season of spending money, and while I don’t anticipate spending money on guns or gun related stuff, I’m not seeing any great harm in an ad like the one you describe. Especially if they are mostly non-religous symbols like holly and snowflakes. ---
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2007, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deck-the-halls-with-smith-and-wesson/428327/13 "2007-11-30T18:48:25Z")
[QUOTE=DanBlather] For the season in which we celebrate The Prince of Peace who preached turn the other cheek it seems ironic and disrepectful. But then I never got the attractions of guns (obviously from my spelling :smack: ). [/QUOTE] I come not to bring peace but a .357. Besides, if what you are concerned about is the gun, rather than the consumerism inherent in Christmas, then the point of Christ’s message has already been lost. There is nothing inherently hypocrtical about having a sale on Guns on Christmas. What’s inherently hypocritical is having a sale on ANYTHING on Christmas. After all the only time homeboy ever got violent was with people engaging in commerce in the Temple. ---
**Author:** ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2007, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deck-the-halls-with-smith-and-wesson/428327/14 "2007-11-30T18:56:18Z")
[QUOTE=DanBlather] For the season in which we celebrate The Prince of Peace who preached turn the other cheek it seems ironic and disrepectful. But then I never got the attractions of guns (obviously from my spelling :smack: ). [/QUOTE] People have to acquire the guns before they can beat them into plowshares. ---
**Author:** ![Projammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/projammer/32/559_2.png) [@Projammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Projammer)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2007, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deck-the-halls-with-smith-and-wesson/428327/15 "2007-11-30T19:06:38Z")
This is America people… Peace through superior firepower. And my Beretta gives me a great deal of peace of mind. ---
**Author:** ![TheMichael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e47774/32.png) [@TheMichael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheMichael)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2007, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deck-the-halls-with-smith-and-wesson/428327/16 "2007-11-30T19:07:35Z")
Guns dont kill people? What do I need all these weapons for then? Oh yeah people kill people. I’ve done enough, but will again if I have to. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2007, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deck-the-halls-with-smith-and-wesson/428327/17 "2007-11-30T19:08:05Z")
[QUOTE=mswas] What’s inherently hypocritical is having a sale on ANYTHING on Christmas. [/QUOTE] Why is that hypocritical? ---
**Author:** ![Cluricaun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/bb73d2/32.png) [@Cluricaun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cluricaun)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2007, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deck-the-halls-with-smith-and-wesson/428327/18 "2007-11-30T19:13:34Z")
[QUOTE=John Mace] Why is that hypocritical? [/QUOTE] Because most businesses aren’t even open on Christmas? ---
**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2007, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deck-the-halls-with-smith-and-wesson/428327/19 "2007-11-30T19:19:13Z")
Smith and Wesson is an inappropriate choice. Everybody knows Jesus favored Colts. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2007, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deck-the-halls-with-smith-and-wesson/428327/20 "2007-11-30T19:20:14Z")
[QUOTE=Cluricaun] Because most businesses aren’t even open on Christmas? [/QUOTE] That still wouldn’t make it hypocritical. In fact, I can think of lots of situations where it would be hypocritical NOT to sell something on Christmas (sale or no sale). At least if said seller is a Christian. Human needs don’t cease to exist on Christmas. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deck-the-halls-with-smith-and-wesson/428327.md?page=2)