# decorate my apartment with propaganda and dissent!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/decorate-my-apartment-with-propaganda-and-dissent/524136>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [January 8, 2010, 5:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/decorate-my-apartment-with-propaganda-and-dissent/524136 "2010-01-08T05:15:43Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![RandMcnally](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b782af/32.png) [@RandMcnally](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RandMcnally)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2010, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/decorate-my-apartment-with-propaganda-and-dissent/524136/21 "2010-01-08T21:37:02Z")

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> [@Mr.Excellent](#):
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> It looks like it might be a Vichy France poster, actually - it portrays the US as a rather unfriendly-looking octopus with dollar signs in its eyes, which is not exactly flattering. Also - my French is terrible, but I suspect “Non! Le France ne sera pas un pays colonise!” means something like “No! France will not be colonized/a colony!” So, it’s the Vichy government trying to mobilize opposition to the Allies - particularly the US - by claiming that Vichy defeat will subject the people to American rule.
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> Or maybe not - did I mention that I got Ds in high school french?

Yours makes a lot more sense than what I thought.

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**Author:** ![thelurkinghorror](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7c8e57/32.png) [@thelurkinghorror](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thelurkinghorror)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2010, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/decorate-my-apartment-with-propaganda-and-dissent/524136/22 "2010-01-08T21:52:54Z")

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You’re on the right track, but it’s a French communist poster. They would have been almost certainly opposed to the Vichy government. It was funded by workers in a Renault factory (car company).

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**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2010, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/decorate-my-apartment-with-propaganda-and-dissent/524136/23 "2010-01-08T21:56:29Z")

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I’m partial to [this one](http://www.marx-brothers.org/whyaduck/cards/all-hail.jpg).

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**Author:** ![Malthus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/85f322/32.png) [@Malthus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malthus)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2010, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/decorate-my-apartment-with-propaganda-and-dissent/524136/24 "2010-01-08T22:07:35Z")

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> [@badbadrubberpiggy](#):
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> [Is your washroom breeding Bolsheviks?](http://www.georgetownbookshop.com/georgetown/display2.asp?id=167).
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> We have this one framed, hanging on our bathroom door.

That’s a great site. Thanks for posting it.

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**Author:** ![Rigamarole](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/77aa72/32.png) [@Rigamarole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rigamarole)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2010, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/decorate-my-apartment-with-propaganda-and-dissent/524136/25 "2010-01-08T22:22:12Z")

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It’s more of an apparel thing, but you really need [this](http://hideyourarms.com/2009/07/07/che-guevara-wearing-che-guevara-tshirt-atshirt/).

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**Author:** ![Icerigger](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/icerigger/32/432_2.png) [@Icerigger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Icerigger)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2010, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/decorate-my-apartment-with-propaganda-and-dissent/524136/26 "2010-01-08T22:27:05Z")

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This is cool, the Soviet Anthem featuring a slide show of communist propaganda posters.

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/f2-zzmCmMVI/hqdefault.jpg "Hymn of the Soviet Union") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2-zzmCmMVI)

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**Author:** ![Mr.Excellent](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f19dbf/32.png) [@Mr.Excellent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Excellent)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2010, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/decorate-my-apartment-with-propaganda-and-dissent/524136/27 "2010-01-08T22:45:06Z")

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> [@thelurkinghorror](#):
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> You’re on the right track, but it’s a French communist poster. They would have been almost certainly opposed to the Vichy government. It was funded by workers in a Renault factory (car company).

D’oh! Should have caught that - “colonialism” is the traditional boogeyman of communist groups, after all. Fascists generally don’t condemn it - after all, they want _their_ countries to have colonies.

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**Author:** ![An\_Gadai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@An\_Gadai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/An_Gadai)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2010, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/decorate-my-apartment-with-propaganda-and-dissent/524136/28 "2010-01-08T22:53:44Z")

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> [@Icerigger](#):
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> This is cool, the Soviet Anthem featuring a slide show of communist propaganda posters.
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> [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2-zzmCmMVI](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2-zzmCmMVI)

If I ever have a revolution I’m going to steal that anthem. It is spine tingling.

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**Author:** ![Rigamarole](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/77aa72/32.png) [@Rigamarole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rigamarole)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2010, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/decorate-my-apartment-with-propaganda-and-dissent/524136/29 "2010-01-08T23:39:00Z")

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> [@An\_Gadai](#):
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> If I ever have a revolution I’m going to steal that anthem. It is spine tingling.

That’s weird, I don’t find it chilling or “spine tingling” at all. It’s rather upbeat. Is it just because they’re singing in Russian?

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**Author:** ![RandMcnally](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b782af/32.png) [@RandMcnally](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RandMcnally)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2010, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/decorate-my-apartment-with-propaganda-and-dissent/524136/30 "2010-01-09T00:28:50Z")

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> [@Rigamarole](#):
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> That’s weird, I don’t find it chilling or “spine tingling” at all. It’s rather upbeat. Is it just because they’re singing in Russian?

That’s probably it. Everything sounds more revolutionary in Russian.

I have a question, did these posters actually work?

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**Author:** ![dangermom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e274bd/32.png) [@dangermom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dangermom)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2010, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/decorate-my-apartment-with-propaganda-and-dissent/524136/31 "2010-01-09T00:34:00Z")

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I’m not sure “spine tingling” was supposed to be a bad thing. I really like Russian male choirs, myself. If there’s one thing the Red Army was good at, it was the music.

Thanks for the link **Icerigger** , we are studying the 1917 Revolution next week and I will make my daughter watch it!

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**Author:** ![handsomeharry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e9c0ed/32.png) [@handsomeharry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/handsomeharry)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2010, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/decorate-my-apartment-with-propaganda-and-dissent/524136/32 "2010-01-09T00:58:46Z")

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> [@Maastricht](#):
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> My recommendation would be the vintage section of [allposters.com, subsection propaganda.](http://www.allposters.com/-st/Propaganda-Vintage-Art-Posters_c18502_.htm)

Those.  
Were.  
Awesome.

hh

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**Author:** ![The\_Scrivener](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@The\_Scrivener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Scrivener)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2010, 5:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/decorate-my-apartment-with-propaganda-and-dissent/524136/33 "2010-01-09T05:30:01Z")

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A stars-and-bars “FUCK COMMUNISM!!” poster (either vintage or a reprint… or even just a computer printout) from Paul Krassner’s counter-cultural political, satirical mag \*The Realist \*would be right up your alley, I should think.

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**Author:** ![Ranchoth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ranchoth/32/1066_2.png) [@Ranchoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ranchoth)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2010, 11:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/decorate-my-apartment-with-propaganda-and-dissent/524136/34 "2010-01-09T11:47:17Z")

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> [@RandMcnally](#):
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> That’s probably it. Everything sounds more revolutionary in Russian.

You could try [Paul Robeson’s version](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtU3vUOa2sw). (Note: this is the 1944-edition lyrics. Good ol’ Uncle Joe! :eek: )

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**Author:** ![Icerigger](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/icerigger/32/432_2.png) [@Icerigger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Icerigger)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2010, 12:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/decorate-my-apartment-with-propaganda-and-dissent/524136/35 "2010-01-09T12:18:00Z")

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Yeah, I like that one as well it really makes you want to join the party.

Lets all sing…

The great Soviet Union shall live through the ages, A mighty republic shall ever endure…

Long, live our Soviet motherland, built by the people’s mighty hand…

and my favorite line:

**and with Stalin our leader with faith in the people…**

You mean all the people Stalin and Beria left alive?

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**Author:** ![WarmNPrickly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/d78d45/32.png) [@WarmNPrickly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WarmNPrickly)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2010, 12:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/decorate-my-apartment-with-propaganda-and-dissent/524136/36 "2010-01-09T12:50:46Z")

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> [@smiling\_bandit](#):
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> Make sure to have copies of Das Kapital and Mein Kampf placed prominently on the coffee table. 😃

Don’t forget _Atlas Shrugged_. Then you could have _Common Sense_ as dissenting literature.

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**Author:** ![Ranchoth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ranchoth/32/1066_2.png) [@Ranchoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ranchoth)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2010, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/decorate-my-apartment-with-propaganda-and-dissent/524136/37 "2010-01-09T13:52:16Z")

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> [@Icerigger](#):
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> You mean all the people Stalin and Beria left alive?

“The last mass trials were a great success. There are going to be fewer but better Russians.” 😃

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**Author:** ![Zoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/a4c791/32.png) [@Zoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoe)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2010, 10:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/decorate-my-apartment-with-propaganda-and-dissent/524136/38 "2010-01-10T10:24:14Z")

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From our own propoganda files, how about MISSION ACCOMPLISHED?

And rather than the usual portrait of Che, maybe there is access to the movie poster.

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**Author:** ![An\_Gadai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@An\_Gadai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/An_Gadai)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2010, 1:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/decorate-my-apartment-with-propaganda-and-dissent/524136/39 "2010-01-10T13:00:38Z")

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I meant spine-tingling in a good way. I didn’t mean it in a chilling way. The Robeson version is funny.

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**Author:** ![Ranchoth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ranchoth/32/1066_2.png) [@Ranchoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ranchoth)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2010, 1:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/decorate-my-apartment-with-propaganda-and-dissent/524136/40 "2010-01-10T13:02:02Z")

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> [@Zoe](#):
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> From our own propoganda files, how about MISSION ACCOMPLISHED?

From our own, I rather like [these three](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11514714&postcount=2).

Strange bedfellows, eh?

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