# De'endee Mafia

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deendee-mafia/588052>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [July 6, 2011, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deendee-mafia/588052 "2011-07-06T16:30:51Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 112

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**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2011, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deendee-mafia/588052/2221 "2011-08-13T23:14:52Z")

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Yeah ok.

**vote: Red Skeezix  
vote: Mental Guy**

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**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2011, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deendee-mafia/588052/2222 "2011-08-13T23:17:09Z")

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Hey **Red** who’d you “target” this time?

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**Author:** ![choie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/choie/32/7829_2.png) [@choie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/choie)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2011, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deendee-mafia/588052/2223 "2011-08-14T00:02:41Z")

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Sigh. I know there’s no official townie confirmation of **Suburban Plankton** in the color. But unless we have a particularly sadistic vig on our hands, I’m assuming this fell deed was the Lords of Slaughters’ handiwork. Which means **SP** was one of us.

_Ave Atque Vale_, **Suburban Plankton**. I knew you were a good guy. ☹

**vote Red Skeezix**

Not gonna lock yet, on the off-off-off-off chance that he actually managed to perform a vig kill on a scum that was delayed. The odds seem infinitesimal of course, but I still want to see what story he comes up with this time.

I also won’t bother defending myself against **pizza** , except to say that it _slays_ me that I’m getting dinged for my post about “locking and loading” on **Red**. Apparently I’m scummy for being too wimpy by not double-voting for **Red** , but also scummy for being too certain about **Red** s guilt once we got veritable proof that **ShadowFacts** was right. I just don’t get it.

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**Author:** ![choie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/choie/32/7829_2.png) [@choie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/choie)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2011, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deendee-mafia/588052/2224 "2011-08-14T00:13:46Z")

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NETA: By the way, since this (I believe) confirms **Suburban Plankton** as town, do you guys agree that it _also_ confirms **Inner Stickler** ’s innocence? I recall **Suburban** confirmed that he saw **Inner** perform a “helpful” spell.

If so, then at least we’re getting some useful info with **Suburban Plankton** ’s grisly demise.

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**Author:** ![choie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/choie/32/7829_2.png) [@choie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/choie)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2011, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deendee-mafia/588052/2225 "2011-08-14T00:24:28Z")

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Sorry for the triple post, but for the record, here’s **Suburban Plankton** ’s original claim from [1822](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=14117662&postcount=1822), coupled with his actions each night:

> [@Suburban\_Plankton](#):
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> OK, since\*\* Inner Stickler\*\* has claimed Doc, I’ll go ahead and do this now.
> 
> I am a Tracker.
> 
> On Night 1, I tracked **Askthepizzaguy**. I got no result because I was blocked.
> 
> On Night 2, I tracked **Special Ed**. He did something, but I wasn’t informed what. I assume now that he blocked someone, but I don’t know who. Also, unexpectedly, I got a delayed result from Night 1, and found that \*\*Askthepizzaguy \*\*had done nothing.
> 
> I’m still not sure why I received a delayed result from my Night 1 action. It could be that \*\*Ed’s \*\*blocking ability at Level 1 was incomplete; he could only delay a reslt rather than prevent it altogether. Or it’s possible that \*all \*Night action results in this game are delayed 1 Night. Others might be able to confirm or deny the latter.
> 
> Night 3, I tracked **ShadowFacts**. He did something, and he saw me following him (though he did not know it was me).
> 
> Finally, after lynching **Septimus** , I reached Level 3 and received my improved power.
> 
> Night 4, I tracked **Inner Stickler** , after \*\*Askthepizzaguy \*\*had possibly outed him as the Doc. I was able to confirm that he is the Doc.
> 
> I’m interpreting “something helpful” here to mean “helpful _to Town_”, which rules out the possibility that\*\* Inner Stickler\*\* is a Scum Doc.

Of course he could have been wrong about “helpful” meaning “helpful to town.” I don’t think so – since omniscient **Astral** knew **Suburban** was town, he would probably use the phrase “helpful” unambiguously, meaning “helpful to _your side_,” i.e. “town.” But that’s just me guessing.

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**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2011, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deendee-mafia/588052/2226 "2011-08-14T01:57:03Z")

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It’s also possible Red is sort of telling the truth about being the Assassin but that his role is in fact third party/PFK and not Town Vig. In that particular case it would have been a good idea for him to kill Suburban. Either way, I agree with your

**vote Red Skeezix**

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**Author:** ![Hirka\_T\_Bawa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/db5fbb/32.png) [@Hirka\_T\_Bawa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hirka_T_Bawa)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2011, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deendee-mafia/588052/2227 "2011-08-14T03:19:40Z")

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> [@Askthepizzaguy](#):
>
> Hirka T’Bawa  
> [ul]  
> [li]Posting from phone- In this example, it’s not just a joke. Townies aren’t THAT interested in these games, especially vanilla ones, unless they’re Askthepizzaguy. In general. This guy is following the thread AWAY from his computer… why?[/li][li]Some of his vote switches look very incriminating. That said, I pushed him towards the scummiest one. But I can’t whitewash that away completely.[/li][/ul]

Two answer two of your comments, first, as for the phone, have you ever worked in a pharmacy? I’ve been doing 12 hour days, busy in the morning, but then could have anywhere from 30 minutes to an hour without a patient. I have nothing better to do then check the SDMB. Before I got into Mafia, I just lurked in GQ and the other forums, answering a GQ occasionally. Now, I get a notice every time a post is made in the thread, so I check it… Especially right before night fall.

By the way, is this really a scum tell? You said to ask **Normal** , so I’m asking her.

Second, You did push me towards a vote. When I saw the vote change, it was your post mentioning:

> [@](#):
>
> 1. If you believe both candidates are townie, then vote to limit the damage. Vote for the least valuable townie.

(post 2103)

That really what made me throw in my vote last minute. When I saw the votes, I was tempted to let it go, but, this is what threw my vote. I figured **ShadowFacts** had used most of his powers, he only had one vote double, and one message, left. So, figured that would be better lynch then a town vig…

However… There was only one kill last night. I really want to hear what **Red Skeezix** did last night, and who he targeted.

In the mean time:

**Vote MentalGuy**

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**Author:** ![Askthepizzaguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askthepizzaguy/32/9405_2.png) [@Askthepizzaguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askthepizzaguy)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2011, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deendee-mafia/588052/2228 "2011-08-14T03:23:47Z")

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Interesting…

Waiting for everyone to report in on what happened.

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**Author:** ![Askthepizzaguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askthepizzaguy/32/9405_2.png) [@Askthepizzaguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askthepizzaguy)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2011, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deendee-mafia/588052/2229 "2011-08-14T03:27:09Z")

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**Red Skeezix** , who did you target last night? Just say Inner Stickler, and we’ll be square. 😃

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**Author:** ![Askthepizzaguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askthepizzaguy/32/9405_2.png) [@Askthepizzaguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askthepizzaguy)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2011, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deendee-mafia/588052/2230 "2011-08-14T03:39:21Z")

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**Vote: Diver  
Vote: Hirka T’Bawa**

For now.

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**Author:** ![Hirka\_T\_Bawa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/db5fbb/32.png) [@Hirka\_T\_Bawa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hirka_T_Bawa)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2011, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deendee-mafia/588052/2231 "2011-08-14T03:58:35Z")

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> [@Askthepizzaguy](#):
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> **Vote: Hirka T’Bawa**  
> For now.

Mind if I ask what brought me up from what, 50%, and 5th up from your list, to deserve a vote first thing today? What has changed from overnight to make you think I’m scum, and deserve a vote?

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**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2011, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deendee-mafia/588052/2232 "2011-08-14T04:02:26Z")

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Ouch! That _ **hurt** _!  
GO TEAM!  
**spoilers please?**

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**Author:** ![Askthepizzaguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askthepizzaguy/32/9405_2.png) [@Askthepizzaguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askthepizzaguy)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2011, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deendee-mafia/588052/2233 "2011-08-14T04:03:00Z")

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> [@Hirka\_T\_Bawa](#):
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> Mind if I ask what brought me up from what, 50%, and 5th up from your list, to deserve a vote first thing today?

No, I don’t mind at all.

> [@](#):
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> What has changed from overnight to make you think I’m scum, and deserve a vote?

Suburban Plankton is dead.

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**Author:** ![Askthepizzaguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askthepizzaguy/32/9405_2.png) [@Askthepizzaguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askthepizzaguy)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2011, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deendee-mafia/588052/2234 "2011-08-14T04:10:51Z")

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Also, are you guys _absolutely sure_ you want Red Skeezix dead today?

Juuuuust wonderin’. 😉

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**Author:** ![Hirka\_T\_Bawa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/db5fbb/32.png) [@Hirka\_T\_Bawa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hirka_T_Bawa)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2011, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deendee-mafia/588052/2235 "2011-08-14T04:12:17Z")

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> [@Askthepizzaguy](#):
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> Suburban Plankton is dead.

Ok… Um… You’ve been really good about actually making cases against people. All of a sudden, I get a vote against me by you, and I don’t understand it. How am I linked to **Suburban Plankton**? Why would I have wanted him dead? Sorry… I’m confused…

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**Author:** ![Askthepizzaguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askthepizzaguy/32/9405_2.png) [@Askthepizzaguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askthepizzaguy)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2011, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deendee-mafia/588052/2236 "2011-08-14T04:13:22Z")

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> [@Hirka\_T\_Bawa](#):
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> Ok… Um… You’ve been really good about actually making cases against people. All of a sudden, I get a vote against me by you, and I don’t understand it. How am I linked to **Suburban Plankton**? Why would I have wanted him dead? Sorry… I’m confused…

The case against you was made last night.

How are you linked to Suburban Plankton? Well if you’re scum, you killed Suburban Plankton.

You wanted him dead because of that whole tracker thing.

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**Author:** ![Askthepizzaguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askthepizzaguy/32/9405_2.png) [@Askthepizzaguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askthepizzaguy)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2011, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deendee-mafia/588052/2237 "2011-08-14T04:15:37Z")

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Anyone here interested in Hirka or Diver being the lynch today?

Let’s do a poll. If you’d like to see Hirka dead, press one.

If you’d like to see Diver dead, press two.

If you’d like to see Red Skeezix dead, press three.

If you’d like an extra special massage with this Ziploc bag full of scented massage oil, dial the pound sign.

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**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2011, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deendee-mafia/588052/2238 "2011-08-14T04:31:18Z")

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> [@Askthepizzaguy](#):
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> **Vote: Diver  
> Vote: Hirka T’Bawa**
> 
> For now.

What did _I_ do now?

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**Author:** ![Askthepizzaguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askthepizzaguy/32/9405_2.png) [@Askthepizzaguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askthepizzaguy)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2011, 4:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deendee-mafia/588052/2239 "2011-08-14T04:33:07Z")

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> [@USCDiver](#):
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> What did _I_ do now?

_hugs_ It’s really nothing personal, man. 🙂

But I’d like you to answer my poll. Would you lynch Hirka today if I asked you to?

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**Author:** ![Askthepizzaguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askthepizzaguy/32/9405_2.png) [@Askthepizzaguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askthepizzaguy)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2011, 4:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deendee-mafia/588052/2240 "2011-08-14T04:57:17Z")

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Am I not being verbose enough? I thought if I shortened my posts they’d maybe be easier to read and absorb. I know Diver was not wanting to read big posts. Since I’ll be addressing Diver today, I need to keep the word count down.

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