# De'endee Mafia **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [July 6, 2011, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deendee-mafia/588052 "2011-07-06T16:30:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 126
**Author:** ![Askthepizzaguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askthepizzaguy/32/9405_2.png) [@Askthepizzaguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askthepizzaguy)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2011, 11:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deendee-mafia/588052/2502 "2011-08-19T11:48:01Z")
> [@gnarlycharlie](#): > > he haz examz. :dubious: **Special ed** says _bah!_ to that. Look! Tiny tildes! Way kewl! 😃 ```auto ``` ---
**Author:** ![Askthepizzaguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askthepizzaguy/32/9405_2.png) [@Askthepizzaguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askthepizzaguy)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2011, 12:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deendee-mafia/588052/2503 "2011-08-19T12:12:43Z")
> [@Askthepizzaguy](#): > > Red Skeezix does NOT weigh the same as a duck. He’s not a witch. Nevermind about that, it’s a fair cop. Apparently he did weigh the same as a duck. We did do the nose… and the hat, but he \*was \*a witch. :eek: ---
**Author:** ![Askthepizzaguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askthepizzaguy/32/9405_2.png) [@Askthepizzaguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askthepizzaguy)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2011, 12:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deendee-mafia/588052/2504 "2011-08-19T12:29:31Z")
I fully re-read yesterday’s lynch voting round. I’m prepared to admit I could be wrong on USCDiver. The bloody fingerprints are all over Hirka and choie. Diver could be a pawn who just looks scummy because he happened to agree with what the scums wanted to do. I’m prepared to double-or-nothing my previous bet on \*\*Hirka \*\*and **choie** , leaving \*\*Diver \*\*out of it and instead pretending I said “Red Skeezix” was their partner instead of Diver. Or, the scums had 5 scumbags and he’s number 5. So much for humility, Pizza. I thought you said you weren’t going to place any more bets, guy? Since when do I \*ever \*do what I say, Pizza? Good point, guy. ---
**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2011, 12:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deendee-mafia/588052/2505 "2011-08-19T12:54:45Z")
Ugh I’m tired. I’ll try to get those vote counts completed before I have to head out; it’s possible that might wake me up enough to do teh other stuff I want. ---
**Author:** ![Askthepizzaguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askthepizzaguy/32/9405_2.png) [@Askthepizzaguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askthepizzaguy)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2011, 12:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deendee-mafia/588052/2506 "2011-08-19T12:58:36Z")
More interested in your thoughts on current suspects; the details of the unvotes can be completed at your leisure in the next day phase when we’ll have more time. My friend, I trust you to smack me on the head for being wrong one more time if I am. You were better on Stickler and Skeezix, as townie or mafia respectively. Show me where I’m wrong on Hirka/choie. ---
**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2011, 12:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deendee-mafia/588052/2507 "2011-08-19T12:59:37Z")
All right, I’ll try. I need more coffee for somethign that requires actual thought, though. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Askthepizzaguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askthepizzaguy/32/9405_2.png) [@Askthepizzaguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askthepizzaguy)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2011, 1:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deendee-mafia/588052/2508 "2011-08-19T13:01:37Z")
> [@Normal\_Phase](#): > > All right, I’ll try. I need more coffee for somethign that requires actual thought, though. ☹ Also interesting is your thoughts on the others I looked at. I’ve now analyzed everyone in the game, and everyone besides Hirka/choie and Diver are turning up solidly townie, even on folks like Weedy or MentalGuy, who I know is a big fish you’ve been trying to catch. Show me where they’re scummy so I am not leaving stones unturned. ---
**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2011, 1:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deendee-mafia/588052/2509 "2011-08-19T13:04:21Z")
Ooh, pizza, review me next! I wanna know if I’ve been acting scummy! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2011, 1:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deendee-mafia/588052/2510 "2011-08-19T13:06:23Z")
Not having read it all yet (for meaning), my guess would be that if you are leaving stones unturned it’s in settling too firmly into given scum motivations. Like you couldn’t see why scum would choose Skeezix to die over Septimus on day four. So whereever you’ve made a particular assumption about scum motive, reverse it and see if anything different pops out. ---
**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2011, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deendee-mafia/588052/2511 "2011-08-19T13:16:28Z")
> [@Askthepizzaguy](#): > > Why would the scums try to save Skeezix as he busses himself? No, the folks who had been solidly against Red look worse than those who were interested in sparing him I think. **Agree, though I reallyreallyreally want to see the specific comments that gnarly (and Hirka, of course) made at this time. Anyone who feels like going back to pull them up gets a cookie from me.** ---
**Author:** ![Askthepizzaguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askthepizzaguy/32/9405_2.png) [@Askthepizzaguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askthepizzaguy)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2011, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deendee-mafia/588052/2512 "2011-08-19T13:44:40Z")
> [@Astral\_Rejection](#): > > Ooh, pizza, review me next! I wanna know if I’ve been acting scummy! 😃 Okay. ---
**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2011, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deendee-mafia/588052/2513 "2011-08-19T14:06:38Z")
Hirka (massive snippage) – > [@Askthepizzaguy](#): > > \*\*Day One- \*\* > > [ul] > [li]choie and Diver both place votes on Jan and Kelly, which didn’t affect who died between Jan and Kelly, but did make it so that \*\*Koldanar \*\*wouldn’t die.[/li][li]\*\*Koldanar \*\*votes for \*\*Pizza \*_along with **septimus**. Was I that annoying to the scums already? I had voted for **Red Skeezix** and I also said I’d vote for **septimus** , and I also voted for Koldanar._ If he’s guilty, that’s freaking 3/4 on day one, you know.\*[/li][li]No votes on Red Skeezix or septimus.[/li][/ul] I actually give a teensy-tiny town read to both gnarly and Koldanar/Hirka for being on that bandwagon with Septimus, on the theory that scum don’t like to double up on small bandwagons if they can help it, and it’s not like Septimus didn’t have a bunch of other choices to vote for. Obviously this is not an ironclad theory. Timing-wise, Septimus voted third on the ATPG wagon at a time when Kelly had five votes, Jan had one, and Koldanar had two. Not indicative of anything, really. Red Skeezix was the first vote for Jan, also not helpful. Koldanar never came truly close to the lynch lead later on, so I think there’s nothing much else to be learned here. **Verdict: Teeny-tiny town read for gnarly and Hirka on weak “scum wouldn’t bandwagon together” grounds.** > [@](#): > > \*\*Day Two- > > \*\* > [ul] > [li]\*\*Hirka \*\*double votes **ShadowFacts**. Interestingly, handicaps him, makes him unable to spare **septimus** , and he does this seemingly intentionally. It would seem that \*\*septimus \*\*felt confident he could save himself. Still, this is the weakest part of the case against Hirka, and could serve as evidence in his favor.[/li][li]No votes on Red Skeezix or septimus.[/li][/ul] Hirka doubled up three posts prior to my own vote change to Septimus, and he couldn’t have known that that was coming. At the time it was 6 votes for Jan to 4 for Septimus, I think, enough to be a little wary, but I don’t think truly worried. **I’m going to rate this one as strict neutral on the vote timing, ever so slightly scum for avoiding all the top bandwagons.** (Despite that his subbing in would have caused issues anyway.) > [@](#): > > **Day Three-** > [ul] > [li] **Hirka** ’s votes on \*\*ShadowFacts \*\*appear to be an attempt to save **septimus**.[/li][li] **Hirka** ’s initial vote on **septimus** [COLOR=Black] was **unvoted**.[/COLOR][/li][li]\*\*septimus \*\*is exposed as majorly scummy. Assume his mates will vote for him.[/li][li]No vote for Red Skeezix, septimus vote appears to be poor distancing due to septimus being exposed as scummy.[/li][/ul] Correct assumption, I believe; as with Red the next day, most scums will want to bus. Anyone who doesn’t is taking some serious contrarian risks. As noted previously, Hirka’s vote change to Shadowfacts at post 1091 ties the two (previously, 6 Septimus/4 Shadow). He does have townie cover in me and Pizza, though Red Skeezix is also voting Shadow (as well as Septimus). It’s a bit of a risky move for a scum, but the scum motive is obviously really strong. **Verdict: Leans scum.** > [@](#): > > **Day Four-** > > [ul] > [li]\*\*Hirka \*\*votes for **Red Skeezix** even though **Red Skeezix** is not likely to be lynched. Safe distancing attempt. Votes along with \*\*septimus \*\*and Diver for **Red Skeezix.** This looks much scummier now that Red is exposed as guilty as well. Distancing attempt here, most likely.[/li][li] **No follow-up vote on septimus; \*\*\*\*scums obviously did NOT want septimus lynched, but wanted to bus Red Skeezix… had to settle for distancing.** [/li][/ul] Again as with Septimus the previous day, I think the default scum move would have been to bus. Hirka does put one early vote on Skeezix. His second vote comes so late as to be meaningless. I think the Septimus/Skeezix choice that came up woudl have been an awkward one for the scums. Both options are “right”, but still anything you do could still be read as scummy. Vote too late on the one who dies? Bussing. Vote too early on the one who lives? Trying to save your scumbuddy. So the late lock-in vote in itself feels consistent with scum motives to me. It also avoids the necessity of engaging with the incorrect votes on ShadowFacts at all. **Verdict: slight scum read** > [@](#): > > **Day Five-** > [ul] > [li]Desperate to avoid a second scum lynch in a row, scumbags attempt to save **Red Skeezix** ’ life. **Hirka T’Bawa** is one of the few unknowns who both hopped back and forth on \*\*Red \*\*and onto **ShadowFacts** , settled on **ShadowFacts** , and settled on \*\*ShadowFacts \*\*late in the round to help decide the round.[/li][li]Hirka is most directly responsible for saving Red Skeezix’ life this round, and his shifting votes are very incriminating.[/li][/ul] Devil’s Advocate: scum don’t like to change votes around scum lynches if they don’t have to; it stands out and not in a good way. Hirka pretty much sealed his fate as a suspect here, given Shadow’s flip. He probably would have done better to stick the shiv in Red, if he is scum. Hirka going back to Shadow on this day after ignoring him the previous day is not in his favor. I have a vague sense that his approach to Shadow doesn’t add up at all over time, but I need to look at the particular posts to be sure. **Verdict: Not sure. Want to look at Hirka’s posts about Shadow as a group.** > [@](#): > > Day Six- > > [ul] > [li]The decision is made to bus **Red Skeezix** , seeing as he is so much dead meat anyway. Only stupid \*\*Pizzaguy \*\*gives \*\*Red \*\*any shot at life, and incredibly, **Red Skeezix** _DOESN’T WANT ANY OF IT._[/li][li]\*\*Hirka \*\*went from voting \*\*Pizzaguy \*\*day one, to locking \*\*ShadowFacts \*\*day two even though there was no chance Shadow would die, to voting \*\*septimus \*\*and then \*\*unvoting \*\*and \*\*voting \*\*for \*\*ShadowFacts \*\*to save **septimus** , to \*\*locking Red Skeezix **when it was between** guilty septimus \*\*and **guilty Red Skeezix** , to \*\*locking ShadowFacts \*\*to **spare Red Skeezix** , to voting **MentalGuy** , then **choie** , and then Finally, \*\*Red Skeezix \*\*after it had already been decided.[/li][/ul] > > I can’t follow the thought process, and this looks beyond scummy to me. > [/spoiler]Does anyone have any idea how this particular voting pattern could come from a townie? Hirka T’Bawa, I need a darned good explanation for all this. You should be the default lynch tomorrow. **Verdict: Yeah, pretty much.** ---
**Author:** ![Askthepizzaguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askthepizzaguy/32/9405_2.png) [@Askthepizzaguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askthepizzaguy)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2011, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deendee-mafia/588052/2514 "2011-08-19T14:11:43Z")
Astral Rejection: [spoiler] **Day One-** [ul] [li]No Vote.[/li][li]Did not vote for \*\*septimus \*\*or **Red Skeezix.** [/li][/ul] **Day Two-** [ul] [li]No Vote.[/li][li]Did not vote for \*\*septimus \*\*or **Red Skeezix.** [/li][/ul] **Day Three-** [ul] [li]No Vote.[/li][li]Did not vote for \*\*septimus \*\*or **Red Skeezix.** [/li][li]Seems way too interested in doing tallies, instead of actually voting.[/li][/ul] Day Four- [ul] [li]No Vote.[/li][li]Did not vote for \*\*septimus \*\*or **Red Skeezix.** [/li][li]Why hasn’t he been wogged yet? He must be sending in night actions.[/li][/ul] Day Five- [ul] [li]No Vote.[/li][li]Did not vote for **Red Skeezix** [/li][li]Votes whoever \*\*Mahaloth \*\*votes for. Interesting… possible link?[/li][/ul] Day Six- [ul] [li]\*Finally \*lynches **Red Skeezix** , but only because so many people voted for him.[/li][li]Seemed to play directly into the scum’s plans. This was no accident.[/li][/ul] And now, his posts. > [@Astral\_Rejection](#): > > Don’t do that to me! I honestly thought I had screwed up and sent you a PM on accident. I had a tiny moment of panic! 😃 Announcing how he’s feeling = Acting. And not very good acting at that. > [@Astral\_Rejection](#): > > I’m not gonna be nearly so chatty once the game starts, so don’t get used to this, but I want to make the rules clear, since it’s my fault you guys are confused. Ties no longer lynch both players; instead, the first player to top the vote count dies. Accepting blame easily = A way of deflecting criticism before it starts. :rolleyes: > [@Astral\_Rejection](#): > > Also, how on earth did I manage to use four commas in only two sentences? Self-conscious… a little TOO self-conscious. > [@Astral\_Rejection](#): > > You’ll just have to wait for the sequel. “Defenders of De’endee 2: Electric Boogaloo” > > Followed by “Defenders of De’endee 3: The Revengening.” Then maybe “Defenders of De’endee 4: Son of De’endee.” > > Probably time for the gritty reboot after that. Acts like he’s never heard of “The Revengening” which was a game I hosted. Why are you distorting the facts, o scum Lord Astral? > [@Astral\_Rejection](#): > > Some people have checked in via PM, and some people have said they’ll be away for the weekend and will miss the start of the game. My goal is to begin the game tomorrow, around 5 or 6 pm. I’d do it earlier, but I’ll away on a weekend job myself! > > Get your wizard hats on, and get ready to [del]role[/del]play! Giving excuses for not participating sooner. Hiding behind roleplay is scummy. > [@Astral\_Rejection](#): > > Few got much rest that night. Doors were locked at sundown, and shades pulled tight across windows. Guards were posted at the outskirts of town, swords and bows quivering in their fearful hands. > > Just before the dawn’s light could crest the hills surrounding the township of De’endee, the screams started. Moments later, there was a terrible, terrible silence. The townsfolk rushed out of their houses, their eyes darting and wary. Nothing moved in the dim light. > > “Who was it? Who’s missing?” a voice shouted. Fingers pointed towards the center of the town. Baseless finger-pointing. How typical of scum. > [@Astral\_Rejection](#): > > I cannot express enough how happy it would make me if you guys roleplayed everything! At the very least, I’d be delighted if your PMs and such were roleplayed! Encouraging roleplay, but hasn’t even bothered to vote for anyone yet. Where are your priorities man? :dubious: > [@Astral\_Rejection](#): > > Don’t feel bad, it took Mahaloth a little bit to get it, too! Who’s that, your scum buddy? You’re great pals, aren’t you? Maybe that’s why you never vote for him. 😉 > [@Astral\_Rejection](#): > > “Hey, who’s that?” > > A tired, haggard-looking man walks into town. “Sorry, sorry, lost my horse. I hear you guys are having trouble with Lords of some kind?” > > “Nah, already killed 'em.” This is an obvious lie. THE LORDS OF SLAUGHTER ARE NOT ALL DEAD YET. I just want to note for the record that Astral was BLATANTLY lying here. > [@Astral\_Rejection](#): > > Lightfoot received a character sheet before Day 1 started, same as anyone else, so I’m confused on how she could think she wasn’t playing. > > I’ll talk to her first, and we’ll see where we go after that. Oh? What did you talk about? Were you \*\*fishing \*\*to see if she had read her role PM? Scum. > [@Astral\_Rejection](#): > > Also, a wild vote count appears! > > KellyCriterion (6): ShadowFacts [203], Stanislaus [204], Choie [247], Scathach [293], special ed [295], TexCat [315]. Suburban Plankton [342] > Askthepizzaguy (3): gnarlycharlie [228]. Koldanar [238], Septimus [248] > Koldanar (2): Askthepizzaguy [225]. Mental Guy [219] > Normal Phase (1): KellyCriterion [213], > Silver Jan (1): Red Skeezix [233] > Romanic (1): Silver Jan [324] > Septimus (1): Normal Phase [338] > > Day ends TODAY at 6pm Central Time. Yeah, with a TOWNIE leading the lynch, just like you wanted. :mad: > [@Astral\_Rejection](#): > > Sorry for the delay, I’m posting this at work from my phone. > > The day’s light is fading. While the adventurers have dutifully killed the town’s ale reserves, they’ve made little progress towards finding the Lords of Slaughter. Some claimed it was too hard, that they couldn’t be expected to find the evildoers with only a single day’s work. Others were optimistic, sure they’d ferret out the Lords after a good night’s rest. > > “Where do you think they’ll hide?” An adventurer asks. “The Demon Vault? The Twilight Forge? The Dragon Sands?” > > “Naw.” Another replies, as he spits into the grass. “They’ll be here, just waiting to kill. You can count on it.” > > A scuffle breaks out, echoing through the alleyways of De’endee. Before long, KellyCriterion is dragged into the center of the town. > > “I caught this one tryin’ to cast some kinda arcane spell thingie. Think it’s one of them Lords of Slaughter.” > > “It’s not true!” Kelly cries out. “It wasn’t a spell at all, it was the secret town handshake!” > > The mayor of the town steps forward. “KellyCriterion? No. Kelly’s one of ours. Been here for twenty years or more.” > > “One of yours…” a magic-user says. “… or one of the LORDS OF SLAUGHTER IN DISGUISE? NEYAHHH!” She throws a large fireball at Kelly, who promptly explodes. > > “Nope, definitely one of ours.” The mayor says. \*\*YOU KILLED KELLY. FoS: Astral Rejection. \*\* > [@Astral\_Rejection](#): > > **Scathach** has been killed. Sadly, there isn’t enough left of him to identify. > > **Day 2 has arrived. Nightfall will occur on July 21st at 6pm central time. There are 19 remaining players, and the hammer number is 12.** You say he’s been killed, but neglect to say by whom. You’re obviously covering for your scumbuddy, admit it. :rolleyes: > [@Astral\_Rejection](#): > > [no color] > > **Weedy** is replacing **Romanic.** I’m still looking for a replacement for Koldanar. \*\* FOS WEEDY\*\*- How come Romanic got the first class treatment? Must be scum. > [@Astral\_Rejection](#): > > Hirka smiles. 'I have pizza." > > Immediately, room is made at the game table. Is this some kind of crack about my name? Ad hominems. :mad: > [@Astral\_Rejection](#): > > Vote Count > > Septimus (6): **Askthepizzaguy, Askthepizzaguy,** **Normal Phase,** special ed, **Normal Phase** , special ed > Silver Jan (5): Choie, Suburban Plankton, Red Skeezix, Inner Stickler, Weedy > Askthepizzaguy (4): **pedescribe, pedescribe,** Septimus, USCDiver > special ed (3): **Silver Jan, Silver Jan,** Texcat > Normal Phase (3): Choie, gnarlycharlie, ShadowFacts > ShadowFacts (2): **Hirka T’Bawa, Hirka T’Bawa** > USCDiver (2): gnarlycharlie, Lightfoot > Hirka T’Bawa (replacing Koldanar) (2): Mental Guy, LightFoot > MentalGuy (1): Stanislaus > gnarlycharlie (1): Mental Guy > TexCat (1): Suburban Plankton > pedescribe (1): ShadowFacts > > With these votes, Septimus would be lynched. Day ends in roughly 10 minutes. Please check for any mistakes. Hanging around near the deadline = scummy Keeping a close eye on the tally = scummy Septimus wasn’t even lynched. But you knew that was going to happen, didn’t ya? > [@Astral\_Rejection](#): > > A crimson red sun slowly sinks beneath the horizon. > > “You know what they say. Red sky at night, Defenders of De’endee’s delight!” > > “I’m fairly certain you just made that up.” > > The Defenders of De’endee gathered in the center of the town. Suspicious looks had been shared all day, and in the brutal heat, tempers had started to flare. Some of the townspeople began to despair, fearing that the Lords of Slaughter would never be stopped. Even the adventurers, who had arrived in high spirits, began to doubt their cause. > > **Silver Jan** was dragged to the center of town. > > “This the one?” > > A few nearby adventurers nodded. > > **Silver Jan** struggled against her bonds. “You don’t know what you’re doing! I’m innocent! I swear!” > > “The evidence against you is indisputible.” > > “Well, I’m disputing it!” > > “Enough!” The Mayor of town cried out. “If this creature is a Lord of Slaughter, it has to be killed.” **FOS: The Mayor of Town.** He doesn’t sound very “Town” to me. > [@Astral\_Rejection](#): > > (roll, roll, roll) Huh. 2. Your spot check fails, and you do not notice the Lords of Slaughter hiding on the ceiling. How do I know you didn’t switch the dice on me? Cheater. > [@Astral\_Rejection](#): > > Vote count coming later, when I get home. I wanted to let you guys know the day will be ending an hour early tomorrow, at 5 pm central time instead of six. I’ll be busy buying a new car, since mine decided to die. > > Thanks for your understanding! MORE excuses for not voting? Typical. Why are you so nervous, Astral? > [@Astral\_Rejection](#): > > Also, since I’m on my phone, I won’t do a full vote count until well after day ends. Currently, TexCat has 9 votes, Shadow has 8, and Septimus has 6, correct? POSTING FROM PHONE = SCUMMY SCUMMY SCUMMY!!! :mad: > [@Astral\_Rejection](#): > > Thanks. I have the color pre-written no matter who dies, so it’s just copying and pasting there. Vote counts are quite a bit harder on my phone. No one could possibly be so interested in their own game that they’ll do the writeups via phone. You’re hiding something. > [@Astral\_Rejection](#): > > Pshh, writing color is fun. I’ve got color for each and every one of you fully or partially written out. The GM’s gotta have fun, too! > > Vote count: > TexCat 10, ShadowFacts 8, Septimus 6. I bet that’s not even an accurate tally. Where are all the other votes? How come septimus was in third place, huh? Don’t want your scum buddy to DIE, eh??? > [@Astral\_Rejection](#): > > Oh, I get what you’re saying. You thought I was implying everyone was town. I can assure you, everybody gets their own death color! Are you threatening me? > [@Astral\_Rejection](#): > > That’s, umm… what? > > Pizza, are you forfeiting? You’d LIKE THAT wouldn’t you!!! > [@Astral\_Rejection](#): > > (out of color) Looking back at that first post reminded me that I didn’t always write you guys as hedonistic rednecks. So, uh, I guess I’m sorry that that’s what I’ve turned you into. 😃 ) **Vote: Astral Rejection** You just admitted you could transform us into hedonistic rednecks. That’s not a pro-town power role I’ve ever heard of. > [@Astral\_Rejection](#): > > Daybreak. > > A warm breeze gently floated down from the hills surrounding the town of De’endee. The morning was peaceful; to any travelers passing by, it would have looked like any other sleepy village. Only the guards, red-eyed and shivering more from nerves than chill, indicated that something wasn’t right here. > > The night had been painfully silent. Those that couldn’t sleep spent the night in a restless panic, sharp chills going down their spines every time they heard the trees rustle or the wind hiss. Animals had learned to stay away from De’endee - during their search the day before, the adventurers had found scores of carcasses, mutilated and destroyed. > > Curtains were cautiously pulled back; eyes peered from the shadows. Nobody wanted to be the first to leave their houses. Nobody wanted to be first to find out who had died. Waking up alive was enough, for now. Plenty of time left in the day to grieve. > > * * * > > “You counted them all?” The barbarian asked. > > “Yes, goddammit, I counted them all.” The archer threw up his hands, exasperated. “I get the same number every time.” > > “Then you’re wrong. Do it again.” > > The mayor of De’endee walked forward. “What’s wrong? Who died?” > > The barbarian nodded at the archer. “Tell him.” > > “Well, we’ve got a problem.” > > The mayor’s head dropped. His voice was a coarse whisper. “They killed more than one last night, didn’t they.” Pretending not to know if anyone got murdered or not. Obvious acting. I’ve had enough of this. :mad: :mad: :mad: \*\*Vote: Astral Rejection Lock.\*\*[/spoiler] _ **For obvious reasons** _. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2011, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deendee-mafia/588052/2515 "2011-08-19T14:15:59Z")
LOL. ---
**Author:** ![Askthepizzaguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askthepizzaguy/32/9405_2.png) [@Askthepizzaguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askthepizzaguy)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2011, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deendee-mafia/588052/2516 "2011-08-19T14:16:09Z")
> [@Astral\_Rejection](#): > > Your humble narrator was definitely not asleep. Heh, and I thought you weren’t a Player Character? Caught you in another lie. NPCs should be sleeping. What were you doing at night, **Lord of Astraulghter?** 😃 You just admitted to being scum. ---
**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2011, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deendee-mafia/588052/2517 "2011-08-19T14:16:59Z")
Also, **Vote: Astral** **Vote: Astral** since Pizza owns my soul and everything. ---
**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2011, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deendee-mafia/588052/2518 "2011-08-19T15:04:43Z")
I laughed so very, very hard at that. That was AWESOME, Pizza! ---
**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2011, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deendee-mafia/588052/2519 "2011-08-19T15:30:02Z")
OK, I’m losing my mind. The multiquote function has completely screwed up on me and I am unable to get the posts I want to quote quoted properly. I literally cannot figure out how to grab his first substantive post of day two. Whenever I try I’m getting _everything_ but that. Really pissed off. ---
**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2011, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deendee-mafia/588052/2520 "2011-08-19T15:34:06Z")
I guess I hvae to do it the hard way. This is post 820 from Hirka. > [@](#): > > Sorry it took me so long to post something, didn’t get far last night before my wife yelled at me to go to bed . I’ve read through the whole thread, and I’m just not getting a scummy vibe from ATPG or Silver Jan. So I can’t get behind the cases against them. So, I’ve been trying to think of what else I saw that is worthy of a vote. > > First, while it isn’t something I would vote for without more evidence, I am suspicious about LightFoot’s claim, coming early in the day with no pressure on them, right after a night kill with no reveal. If the scum do have a Janitor (I had no idea this role existed, I actually had to look it up), and they got the role reveal of Scathach, who just happened to be a cop… I could see them making a claim early hoping for it to be better believed, and knowing there would be no counter claim since they killed the cop. As I said, I’m not certain enough to vote for a claimed cop, but it does raise my eyebrows, and I will be keeping an eye on LightFoot. > > Now, while reading, I saw some of the same things about ShadowFacts that Normal did. While he didn’t disavow every vote as he placed it, he did on his first vote on Silver Jan and his vote on pedescribe. > > Quote: > It’s not good Town play, that I am certain of. Since this is not her first game, I am not inclined to give her a newbie pass. Let’s see where this takes us: > > unvote > Vote Silver Jan > Quote: > So, not much of a case, but I’d like to prod a response so: vote pedescribe > The bolded parts look like disavowing to me. > > Vote ShadowFacts > Now, I need to figure out where to place my 2nd vote, going to go review a few people I don’t have a town read on. When does the Day end? The Lightfoot thing actually reads as town to me. Scum don’t often go in for such levels of paranoia against a townie. Following my case on Shadow is fine, if convenient. Of interest, however, is that Septimus had as many votes as ATPG does at this point, and is not mentioned by Hirka. ---
**Author:** ![gnarlycharlie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/5f9b8f/32.png) [@gnarlycharlie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnarlycharlie)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2011, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deendee-mafia/588052/2521 "2011-08-19T15:36:59Z")
> [@Askthepizzaguy](#): > > Astral Rejection: > > [spoiler] **Day One-** > [ul] > [li]No Vote.[/li][li]Did not vote for \*\*septimus \*\*or **Red Skeezix.** [/li][/ul] > **Day Two-** > > [ul] > [li]No Vote.[/li][li]Did not vote for \*\*septimus \*\*or **Red Skeezix.** [/li][/ul] > **Day Three-** > > [ul] > [li]No Vote.[/li][li]Did not vote for \*\*septimus \*\*or **Red Skeezix.** [/li][li]Seems way too interested in doing tallies, instead of actually voting.[/li][/ul] > Day Four- > > [ul] > [li]No Vote.[/li][li]Did not vote for \*\*septimus \*\*or **Red Skeezix.** [/li][li]Why hasn’t he been wogged yet? He must be sending in night actions.[/li][/ul] > Day Five- > > [ul] > [li]No Vote.[/li][li]Did not vote for **Red Skeezix** [/li][li]Votes whoever \*\*Mahaloth \*\*votes for. Interesting… possible link?[/li][/ul] > Day Six- > > [ul] > [li]\*Finally \*lynches **Red Skeezix** , but only because so many people voted for him.[/li][li]Seemed to play directly into the scum’s plans. This was no accident.[/li][/ul] > And now, his posts. > > Announcing how he’s feeling = Acting. And not very good acting at that. > > Accepting blame easily = A way of deflecting criticism before it starts. :rolleyes: > > Self-conscious… a little TOO self-conscious. > > Acts like he’s never heard of “The Revengening” which was a game I hosted. > > Why are you distorting the facts, o scum Lord Astral? > > Giving excuses for not participating sooner. Hiding behind roleplay is scummy. > > Baseless finger-pointing. How typical of scum. > > Encouraging roleplay, but hasn’t even bothered to vote for anyone yet. Where are your priorities man? :dubious: > > Who’s that, your scum buddy? > > You’re great pals, aren’t you? Maybe that’s why you never vote for him. 😉 > > This is an obvious lie. > > THE LORDS OF SLAUGHTER ARE NOT ALL DEAD YET. > > I just want to note for the record that Astral was BLATANTLY lying here. > > Oh? What did you talk about? Were you \*\*fishing \*\*to see if she had read her role PM? Scum. > > Yeah, with a TOWNIE leading the lynch, just like you wanted. :mad: > > \*\*YOU KILLED KELLY. FoS: Astral Rejection. > > \*\* > > You say he’s been killed, but neglect to say by whom. > > You’re obviously covering for your scumbuddy, admit it. :rolleyes: > \*\* > FOS WEEDY\*\*- How come Romanic got the first class treatment? Must be scum. > > Is this some kind of crack about my name? Ad hominems. :mad: > > Hanging around near the deadline = scummy > Keeping a close eye on the tally = scummy > Septimus wasn’t even lynched. But you knew that was going to happen, didn’t ya? > > **FOS: The Mayor of Town.** > > He doesn’t sound very “Town” to me. > > How do I know you didn’t switch the dice on me? Cheater. > > MORE excuses for not voting? Typical. Why are you so nervous, Astral? > > POSTING FROM PHONE = SCUMMY SCUMMY SCUMMY!!! :mad: > > No one could possibly be so interested in their own game that they’ll do the writeups via phone. You’re hiding something. > > I bet that’s not even an accurate tally. Where are all the other votes? How come septimus was in third place, huh? Don’t want your scum buddy to DIE, eh??? > Are you threatening me? > You’d LIKE THAT wouldn’t you!!! > > **Vote: Astral Rejection** > > You just admitted you could transform us into hedonistic rednecks. That’s not a pro-town power role I’ve ever heard of. > > Pretending not to know if anyone got murdered or not. Obvious acting. > > I’ve had enough of this. :mad: :mad: :mad: > > \*\*Vote: Astral Rejection > > Lock.\*\*[/spoiler] > > _ **For obvious reasons** _. :rolleyes: holy freakin’ crap! :eek: **Vote Astral Rejection** for being scummy scum. **Vote Astral Rejection** again! **Lock and load that!** [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deendee-mafia/588052.md?page=125) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deendee-mafia/588052.md?page=127)