# De'endee Mafia

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deendee-mafia/588052>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [July 6, 2011, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deendee-mafia/588052 "2011-07-06T16:30:51Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2011, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deendee-mafia/588052/21 "2011-07-07T03:17:49Z")

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1. Normal Phase
2. Tom Scud
3. Askthepizzaguy
4. Inner Stickler
5. Koldanar
6. Pedescribe
7. MHaye (come on, you know you want to!)
8. MentalGuy
9. TexCat
10. Red Skeezix
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Would a better win condition be “You win when all threats to the Defenders of De’endee are vanquished and at least one member of the Defenders of De’endee is still alive” be better?

Honestly, I don’t expect this to be an issue. How many people sign up for a mafia game just so they can break it? 😃

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**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2011, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deendee-mafia/588052/22 "2011-07-07T03:27:10Z")

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Everyone wants to be the one who breaks the game for their team.

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**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2011, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deendee-mafia/588052/23 "2011-07-07T03:35:46Z")

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> [@Astral\_Rejection](#):
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> Honestly, I don’t expect this to be an issue. How many people sign up for a mafia game just so they can break it? 😃

::Looks around. Raises hand::

I always liked breaking games, but I am guessing you weren’t serious.

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**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2011, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deendee-mafia/588052/24 "2011-07-07T03:46:09Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> Do you promise to your Dungeon Masters and fellow travelers that you will participate and not disappear?

I swear by the RNG. Should I drop out, may all my dice roll low and all of my decks be mana-screwed!

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**Author:** ![Romanic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a6a055/32.png) [@Romanic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Romanic)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2011, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deendee-mafia/588052/25 "2011-07-07T04:58:11Z")

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In.

So can NPC/vanilla gain XP and learn new powers if they lynch scums?

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**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2011, 6:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deendee-mafia/588052/26 "2011-07-07T06:38:29Z")

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1. Normal Phase
2. Tom Scud
3. Askthepizzaguy
4. Inner Stickler
5. Koldanar
6. Pedescribe
7. MHaye (come on, you know you want to!)
8. MentalGuy
9. TexCat
10. Red Skeezix
11. Romanic
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I’m making one change to the way we resolve ties, in the hope that it also fixes the win condition issue. Whomever reaches the top vote count first dies.

Romanic, NPCs (our vanilla players) cannot earn XP and learn new powers.

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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2011, 9:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deendee-mafia/588052/27 "2011-07-07T09:13:32Z")

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I’d like to play. 🙂

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**Author:** ![choie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/choie/32/7829_2.png) [@choie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/choie)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2011, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deendee-mafia/588052/28 "2011-07-07T13:37:41Z")

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I’ve never played Mafia but spent the last couple of weeks ODing on past threads (Weird Wild West, Doperville, LOTR, You-Solve-It, Simpletown, and Genre Fiction of course) and I find myself very interested. Would this be an impossibly complex version for a completely ignorant newbie to play?

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**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2011, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deendee-mafia/588052/29 "2011-07-07T14:02:22Z")

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Nothing like diving into the deep end of the pool, is there? (You’ll do fine, and welcome.)

Also,  
**vote: Tom Scud**

OMGUS  
(Oh my God ur scum. Since I’m not going to be. I bribed Astral with a jelly donut.)

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**Author:** ![Koldanar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/dbc845/32.png) [@Koldanar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Koldanar)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2011, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deendee-mafia/588052/30 "2011-07-07T14:08:27Z")

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> [@NAF1138](#):
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> ::Looks around. Raises hand::
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> I always liked breaking games, but I am guessing you weren’t serious.

C’mon…play! I haven’t played in forever; I’d like to see a familiar name!

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**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2011, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deendee-mafia/588052/31 "2011-07-07T14:26:13Z")

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> [@Normal\_Phase](#):
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> Nothing like diving into the deep end of the pool, is there? (You’ll do fine, and welcome.)
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> Also,  
> **vote: Tom Scud**
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> OMGUS  
> (Oh my God ur scum. Since I’m not going to be. I bribed Astral with a jelly donut.)

Maybe we’ll both be third parties this time round.

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**Author:** ![KellyCriterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b3f665/32.png) [@KellyCriterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KellyCriterion)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2011, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deendee-mafia/588052/32 "2011-07-07T14:39:04Z")

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In like Flynn.

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**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2011, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deendee-mafia/588052/33 "2011-07-07T14:46:30Z")

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> [@choie](#):
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> I’ve never played Mafia but spent the last couple of weeks ODing on past threads (Weird Wild West, Doperville, LOTR, You-Solve-It, Simpletown, and Genre Fiction of course) and I find myself very interested. Would this be an impossibly complex version for a completely ignorant newbie to play?

You can’t play any worse than me. You’ll kick ass.

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**Author:** ![choie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/choie/32/7829_2.png) [@choie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/choie)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2011, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deendee-mafia/588052/34 "2011-07-07T15:02:25Z")

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Heh. Don’t be too sure, **Inner Stickler**. Some of the power role stuff confuses me. But I’ll do my best. All right, if newbies are welcome, then please may I join?

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**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2011, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deendee-mafia/588052/35 "2011-07-07T15:13:18Z")

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> [@choie](#):
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> I’ve never played Mafia but spent the last couple of weeks ODing on past threads (Weird Wild West, Doperville, LOTR, You-Solve-It, Simpletown, and Genre Fiction of course) and I find myself very interested. Would this be an impossibly complex version for a completely ignorant newbie to play?

You read through all those old games? You are totally qualified to play. I promise.

If you actually like reading old games, might I suggest looking up Mafia IV. That was a spectacular game in a lot of ways.

See also the spin off mafia site that we started, [Idle Mafia](http://www.idlemafia.com/). In particular read the Batman game (Titled Arkham Nights) and the Tresure Island game (Titled on the Good Ship Hispanola).

Also, I don’t know if anyone is updating it anymore, but here is [the mafia group’s wiki](http://wiki.flyingcowofdoom.com/mafiaWiki/Main_Page).

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**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2011, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deendee-mafia/588052/36 "2011-07-07T15:19:19Z")

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Missed the edit.

It is [Mafia V: The Cult of Seekham](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=426256)you are looking for, not mafia IV (which doesn’t exist on this board).

While I am at it, [This was probably the most fun I had playing a mafia game](http://giraffeboards.com/showthread.php?t=1935), but I don’t know how well it reads. That link takes you to the Night 0 thread.

And Gastard Mod mafia might be my favorite of all the games I created. It’s on Idle’s site.

–NAF Unofficial and unrecognized official mafia historian.

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**Author:** ![gnarlycharlie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/5f9b8f/32.png) [@gnarlycharlie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnarlycharlie)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2011, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deendee-mafia/588052/37 "2011-07-07T15:27:34Z")

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/in if there’s still room.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2011, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deendee-mafia/588052/38 "2011-07-07T16:13:29Z")

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> [@choie](#):
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> I’ve never played Mafia but spent the last couple of weeks ODing on past threads (Weird Wild West, Doperville, LOTR, You-Solve-It, Simpletown, and Genre Fiction of course) and I find myself very interested. Would this be an impossibly complex version for a completely ignorant newbie to play?

It will be fine with newbies and you can PM mods for game related questions if you need to.

> [@KellyCriterion](#):
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> In like Flynn.

Glad to see you back, Kelly! Can mods vote?

**Vote Kelly**

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2011, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deendee-mafia/588052/39 "2011-07-07T16:16:16Z")

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**Let me know if I have missed anyone**. It’s not an intentional snub, unless we don’t like you and decided against you. 🙂

1. Normal Phase
2. Tom Scud
3. Askthepizzaguy
4. Inner Stickler
5. Koldanar
6. Pedescribe
7. MHaye (come on, you know you want to!)
8. MentalGuy
9. TexCat
10. Red Skeezix
11. Romanic
12. Septimus
13. Choie
14. KellyCriterion
15. Gnarlycharlie
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**Author:** ![Silver\_Jan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/90ced4/32.png) [@Silver\_Jan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silver_Jan)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2011, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deendee-mafia/588052/40 "2011-07-07T16:29:10Z")

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I would like to play 🙂

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