# De'endee Mafia **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [July 6, 2011, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deendee-mafia/588052 "2011-07-06T16:30:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 21
**Author:** ![gnarlycharlie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/5f9b8f/32.png) [@gnarlycharlie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnarlycharlie)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2011, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deendee-mafia/588052/401 "2011-07-14T19:55:53Z")
> [@Silver\_Jan](#): > > well this is it i’m wondering though why you felt you had to claim. there hasn’t been a recent vote count but isn’t **Kelly** still lynch leader? ---
**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2011, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deendee-mafia/588052/402 "2011-07-14T19:57:01Z")
> [@LightFoot](#): > > I thought that is what I said. > I was sort of responding to the double thinking posts about power voting a leader to possibly gain XP vs Vanilla voting a leader to smoke screen the power roles. I thought you said that we gain experience points by voting for the lynchee (period). I ‘corrected’ you by clarifying that we gain experience points by voting for the lynchee only if the lynchee is Scum. Of course, given my misunderstanding of the double-voting rules, I wouldn’t take my word for it, if I were you. ---
**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2011, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deendee-mafia/588052/403 "2011-07-14T19:58:05Z")
> [@special\_ed](#): > > Thanks. > @ Everyone, so all this fretting about not casting our second votes is for naught. Unless we cast them for the same person. You could have told me that earlier! ---
**Author:** ![gnarlycharlie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/5f9b8f/32.png) [@gnarlycharlie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnarlycharlie)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2011, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deendee-mafia/588052/404 "2011-07-14T20:01:02Z")
> [@Suburban\_Plankton](#): > > snipped > > So just to clarify, since I am apparently no paying near as close attention to this game as I thought I was: > > As long as I don’t cast two votes for the same person, I am free to have multiple votes on the board all Day long, and change them as often as I wish? > > I am currently voting for **Kelly**. I can vote for **Ed** again now, then change my mind and vote for \*\*Pinkies \*\*and **Inner Stickler** , then work my way through the entire Town, as long as I don’t have two votes on the same player at the same time? > > snipped yes, you aren’t paying attention if you think you can vote Pinkies. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2011, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deendee-mafia/588052/405 "2011-07-14T20:02:15Z")
> [@gnarlycharlie](#): > > yes, you aren’t paying attention if you think you can vote Pinkies. 😃 Damn! Wrong game! Although one could argue that it’s \*never \*wrong to vote for **Pinkies** … ---
**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2011, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deendee-mafia/588052/406 "2011-07-14T20:03:49Z")
> [@Suburban\_Plankton](#): > > As long as I don’t cast two votes for the same person, I am free to have multiple votes on the board all Day long, and change them as often as I wish? Apparently. > [@](#): > > I must now rethink a whole bunch of thoughts that I had concerning voting strategy. But I am comfortable with my vote as it stands currently. And apparently. ---
**Author:** ![Silver\_Jan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/90ced4/32.png) [@Silver\_Jan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silver_Jan)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2011, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deendee-mafia/588052/407 "2011-07-14T20:04:10Z")
> [@special\_ed](#): > > What did you think about the fact that your character class didn’t match kelly’s? I didn’t think it didn’t match K **elly’s** and thats why I unvoted, I believe what he’s saying. Wouldn’t it be good if he told us which sex he was? ---
**Author:** ![Silver\_Jan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/90ced4/32.png) [@Silver\_Jan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silver_Jan)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2011, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deendee-mafia/588052/408 "2011-07-14T20:06:30Z")
Sorry, gender! ---
**Author:** ![gnarlycharlie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/5f9b8f/32.png) [@gnarlycharlie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnarlycharlie)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2011, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deendee-mafia/588052/409 "2011-07-14T20:06:58Z")
> [@Suburban\_Plankton](#): > > Damn! Wrong game! > > Although one could argue that it’s \*never \*wrong to vote for **Pinkies** … agreed. Ed wanted to vote for Pinkies too and i thought it was okay as well. ---
**Author:** ![Scathach](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Scathach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scathach)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2011, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deendee-mafia/588052/410 "2011-07-14T20:08:37Z")
> [@Silver\_Jan](#): > > well this is it > [@Silver\_Jan](#): > > So why was that in my PM as I am obviously plaing? > playing It’s referring to D&D NPC’s. > **[Non-player character](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-player_character)** > > A non-player character (NPC) is a character in a game that is not controlled by a player. The term originated in traditional tabletop role-playing games where it applies to characters controlled by the gamemaster (or referee) rather than by another player. In video games, this usually means a computer-controlled character that has a predetermined set of behaviors that potentially will impact gameplay, but will not necessarily be the product of true artificial intelligence. > In traditional tabl... ---
**Author:** ![Scathach](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Scathach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scathach)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2011, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deendee-mafia/588052/411 "2011-07-14T20:11:01Z")
And since we have two votes before they lock. I’m going to \*\* vote Koldanar \*\* For the same reasons I laid out earlier. ---
**Author:** ![Scathach](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Scathach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scathach)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2011, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deendee-mafia/588052/412 "2011-07-14T20:13:22Z")
> [@Silver\_Jan](#): > > I didn’t think it didn’t match K **elly’s** and thats why I unvoted, I believe what he’s saying. > > Wouldn’t it be good if he told us which sex he was? But your class is different to the vanilla role pm, instead of NPC Townsperson, it’s mage. ---
**Author:** ![Silver\_Jan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/90ced4/32.png) [@Silver\_Jan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silver_Jan)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2011, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deendee-mafia/588052/413 "2011-07-14T20:15:29Z")
Intersting 🙂 so I am controlled by the dungeon Master, thanks 🙂 I still don’t know if who I voted for is right but I am a little Townie. ---
**Author:** ![choie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/choie/32/7829_2.png) [@choie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/choie)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2011, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deendee-mafia/588052/414 "2011-07-14T20:18:11Z")
Okay, **Silver Jan** ’s claim sheet has me really confused now. Her Class is Mage but her role is NPC, and she has no powers. Why would a Mage have no powers? Why would a Mage be an NPC in the first place? Am I just utterly ignorant of the difference between “Class” and “Role”? ---
**Author:** ![gnarlycharlie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/5f9b8f/32.png) [@gnarlycharlie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnarlycharlie)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2011, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deendee-mafia/588052/415 "2011-07-14T20:21:02Z")
> [@choie](#): > > Okay, **Silver Jan** ’s claim sheet has me really confused now. Her Class is Mage but her role is NPC, and she has no powers. Why would a Mage have no powers? Why would a Mage be an NPC in the first place? > > Am I just utterly ignorant of the difference between “Class” and “Role”? it could be the mods’ way to prevent handshakes or she’s lying. ---
**Author:** ![Silver\_Jan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/90ced4/32.png) [@Silver\_Jan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silver_Jan)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2011, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deendee-mafia/588052/416 "2011-07-14T20:22:33Z")
I have to place a vote before 1am so I think I will go with **Vote Koldanar** I can’t make a case so if you vote me off it will be a little VT. I hope Town knows this and doesn’t vote for me cos we need lots of secret VT’s so Scum don’t kill power roles ---
**Author:** ![Scathach](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Scathach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scathach)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2011, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deendee-mafia/588052/417 "2011-07-14T20:22:34Z")
> [@choie](#): > > Okay, **Silver Jan** ’s claim sheet has me really confused now. Her Class is Mage but her role is NPC, and she has no powers. Why would a Mage have no powers? Why would a Mage be an NPC in the first place? > > Am I just utterly ignorant of the difference between “Class” and “Role”? I’m not quite sure what to make of it either. It might be just meaningless flavour added to prevent handshakes. Or it might not. I’m finding it reasonably unlikely that she made it up if her unfamiliarity with D&D is true. ---
**Author:** ![Silver\_Jan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/90ced4/32.png) [@Silver\_Jan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silver_Jan)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2011, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deendee-mafia/588052/418 "2011-07-14T20:27:54Z")
I played D&D 24 years ago, My name ws Silver. I haven’t played since 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![choie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/choie/32/7829_2.png) [@choie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/choie)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2011, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deendee-mafia/588052/419 "2011-07-14T20:31:53Z")
> [@Scathach](#): > > I’m not quite sure what to make of it either. It might be just meaningless flavour added to prevent handshakes. Or it might not. I’m finding it reasonably unlikely that she made it up if her unfamiliarity with D&D is true. Yeah, I dunno, I can imagine their adding color to avoid handshakes, but not creating a role of “Mage” that has _no powers_. Posit: she’s a scum Mage who just switched her real Role with “NPC Townsperson,” which is referenced in the public vanilla claim from the OP. My suspicion is raised. Sorry, **Silver Jan**. **vote Silver Jan** (This is my second vote, though if I understand the rules, I’m not locked in since my first vote is still **Kelly**. Correct?) ---
**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2011, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deendee-mafia/588052/420 "2011-07-14T20:32:39Z")
Handshake prevention would be my guess given I’m predisposed to believe her. Even if she’s scum, though, there’s no reason to expect it to be made up – they’d have the sample PM and hypothetically Kelly’s to go off of; introducing something new as a fake would be silly if they have no vanilla cover role on hand; and if they do, they’d probably just use it. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deendee-mafia/588052.md?page=20) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deendee-mafia/588052.md?page=22)