# De'endee Mafia

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deendee-mafia/588052>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [July 6, 2011, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deendee-mafia/588052 "2011-07-06T16:30:51Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 24

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2011, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deendee-mafia/588052/461 "2011-07-15T00:16:56Z")

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Ah, Astral got it.

Sorry I was late, folks.

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**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2011, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deendee-mafia/588052/462 "2011-07-15T00:30:50Z")

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> [@Stanislaus](#):
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> Also, would all the people who are now rushing to second vote just because they can, please stop. I’m going to call out USCDiver in particular: you voted for the vote leader and the runner up. This has made _absolutely no difference_ to the eventual lynch.  
> \*

I wasn’t trying to make a difference in the eventual lynch, I was placing my votes on the two players I found most suspicious based on cases made by others and their reactions to same. I was reading through the thread as quickly as I could while maintaining some level of comprehension so I certainly didn’t have the opportunity to go through everything with a fine toothed comb myself.

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**Author:** ![KellyCriterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b3f665/32.png) [@KellyCriterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KellyCriterion)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2011, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deendee-mafia/588052/463 "2011-07-15T00:43:42Z")

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Dang.

Good luck town.

Apologies for “acting scummy” on Day 1.

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**Author:** ![ShadowFacts](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shadowfacts/32/2934_2.png) [@ShadowFacts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowFacts)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2011, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deendee-mafia/588052/464 "2011-07-15T01:33:26Z")

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Poo.

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**Author:** ![gnarlycharlie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/5f9b8f/32.png) [@gnarlycharlie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnarlycharlie)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2011, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deendee-mafia/588052/465 "2011-07-15T02:56:59Z")

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hope to play with you again, **KC**.

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**Author:** ![Askthepizzaguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askthepizzaguy/32/9405_2.png) [@Askthepizzaguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askthepizzaguy)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2011, 6:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deendee-mafia/588052/466 "2011-07-15T06:50:13Z")

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> [@septimus](#):
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> I realize I have a pedantic, perhaps unnatural-seeming tone. I can’t prove this (though you might deduce it from some of my personal posts at SDMB), but I am isolated in rural Thailand and most of my oral communication is in Thai. (I speak English to my two kids – they understand but always respond in Thai :smack: ). If I told you when was the last time I spoke to a native-English speaker you might pity me and/or think I was exaggerating.

No, this is quite relevant. I’ve had to re-adjust my scum sensors for non-native speakers before. Thank you for explaining this.

I also still think you’re scummy for now. But we shall see.

> [@KellyCriterion](#):
>
> Apologies for “acting scummy” on Day 1.

You weren’t. You were acting in confused and self-destructive fashion. Like a townie. 🙂

My theory is still intact.

Like predicting a townie lynch on D1 is really a hard call to make.

“I called it!” \<—_This is considered scummy where I come from._

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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2011, 8:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deendee-mafia/588052/467 "2011-07-15T08:02:29Z")

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> [@Askthepizzaguy](#):
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> I’ve had to re-adjust my scum sensors for non-native speakers before. Thank you for explaining this.

Well, I am (or at least _was_) a native English speaker. In some parts of Asia, I got used to pidgin-English and Americans sometimes had trouble believing I was American. :smack: I’ve mostly reverted to Standard American now, I think, when I speak English at all, but often find my Thai seems more fluent, and have trouble thinking of best English words.

Anyway, it’s customary to imbibe virtual ethanol during the Night. Any suggestions? In my time-zone I’m still working on my “late morning” coffees.

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**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2011, 9:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deendee-mafia/588052/468 "2011-07-15T09:58:37Z")

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**[COLOR=Black]Voting summary  
KellyCriterion /COLOR:** Stanislaus [204], Choie [247], Scathach [293], special ed [295], TexCat [315]. Suburban Plankton [342], LightFoot [361] NormalPhase[397] USCDiver[432] Specialed[449]  
\*\*  
Silver Jan (7):\*\* Red Skeezix [233]. ShadowFacts [360], Romanic [363], pedescribe [369] choie[419] USCDiver[432], Suburban[433]\*\* Koldanar (4): **Askthepizzaguy [225]. Mental Guy [219] Scathach[411], SilverJan[416]  
\*\*  
Askthepizzaguy (3):** gnarlycharlie [228]. Koldanar [238], Septimus [248]\*\*

Normal Phase (1): **KellyCriterion [213]**

Septimus (1): **Normal Phase [338]**

pedescribe (1): **Silver Jan [382]**

Two Votes(7):  
Special Ed - **KellyCriterion, KellyCriterion**  
choie -\*\* KellyCriterion, Silver Jan\*\*  
USCDiver - **KellyCriterion, Silver Jan**  
Suburban Plankton -\*\* KellyCriterion, SilverJan\*\*  
Scathach - **KellyCriterion, Koldanar**  
Normal Phase - **Septimus, KellyCriterion**  
Silver Jan - **Pedescribe, Koldanar**

Not Voting(1):\*\* Inner Stickler

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**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2011, 12:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deendee-mafia/588052/469 "2011-07-15T12:17:20Z")

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Blah.

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**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2011, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deendee-mafia/588052/470 "2011-07-15T13:26:15Z")

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> [@septimus](#):
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> Anyway, it’s customary to imbibe virtual ethanol during the Night. Any suggestions? In my time-zone I’m still working on my “late morning” coffees.

I’ll take mine with a slug of whiskey.

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**Author:** ![MentalGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/439d5e/32.png) [@MentalGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MentalGuy)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2011, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deendee-mafia/588052/471 "2011-07-15T13:59:17Z")

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> [@special\_ed](#):
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> **[COLOR=Black]Voting summary  
> KellyCriterion /COLOR:** Stanislaus [204], Choie [247], Scathach [293], special ed [295], TexCat [315]. Suburban Plankton [342], LightFoot [361] NormalPhase[397] USCDiver[432] Specialed[449]  
> \*\*  
> Silver Jan (7):\*\* Red Skeezix [233]. ShadowFacts [360], Romanic [363], pedescribe [369] choie[419] USCDiver[432], Suburban[433]\*\* Koldanar (4): **Askthepizzaguy [225]. Mental Guy [219] Scathach[411], SilverJan[416]  
> \*\*  
> Askthepizzaguy (3):** gnarlycharlie [228]. Koldanar [238], Septimus [248]\*\*
> 
> Normal Phase (1): **KellyCriterion [213]**
> 
> Septimus (1): **Normal Phase [338]**
> 
> pedescribe (1): **Silver Jan [382]**
> 
> Two Votes(7):  
> Special Ed - **KellyCriterion, KellyCriterion**  
> choie -\*\* KellyCriterion, Silver Jan\*\*  
> USCDiver - **KellyCriterion, Silver Jan**  
> Suburban Plankton -\*\* KellyCriterion, SilverJan\*\*  
> Scathach - **KellyCriterion, Koldanar**  
> Normal Phase - **Septimus, KellyCriterion**  
> Silver Jan - **Pedescribe, Koldanar**
> 
> Not Voting(1):\*\* Inner Stickler

You are not showing the votes for Koldanar, and I believe I unvoted Silver Jan.

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**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2011, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deendee-mafia/588052/472 "2011-07-15T14:02:00Z")

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> [@MentalGuy](#):
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> You are not showing the votes for Koldanar, and I believe I unvoted Silver Jan.

He is showing the votes, he just missed a carriage return. \*\*Koldanar’s \*\*votes start in the middle of **Silver Jan’s** line

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**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2011, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deendee-mafia/588052/473 "2011-07-15T16:24:02Z")

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> [@special\_ed](#):
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> **[COLOR=Black]Voting summary  
> KellyCriterion /COLOR:** Stanislaus [204], Choie [247], Scathach [293], special ed [295], TexCat [315]. Suburban Plankton [342], LightFoot [361] NormalPhase[397] USCDiver[432] Specialed[449]  
> \*\*  
> Silver Jan (7):\*\* Red Skeezix [233]. ShadowFacts [360], Romanic [363], pedescribe [369] choie[419] USCDiver[432], Suburban[433]\*\* Koldanar (4): **Askthepizzaguy [225]. Mental Guy [219] Scathach[411], SilverJan[416]  
> \*\*  
> Askthepizzaguy (3):** gnarlycharlie [228]. Koldanar [238], Septimus [248]\*\*
> 
> Normal Phase (1): **KellyCriterion [213]**
> 
> Septimus (1): **Normal Phase [338]**
> 
> pedescribe (1): **Silver Jan [382]**
> 
> Two Votes(7):  
> Special Ed - **KellyCriterion, KellyCriterion**  
> choie -\*\* KellyCriterion, Silver Jan\*\*  
> USCDiver - **KellyCriterion, Silver Jan**  
> Suburban Plankton -\*\* KellyCriterion, SilverJan\*\*  
> Scathach - **KellyCriterion, Koldanar**  
> Normal Phase - **Septimus, KellyCriterion**  
> Silver Jan - **Pedescribe, Koldanar**
> 
> Not Voting(1):\*\* Inner Stickler

You also have \*\*Romanic \*\*voting for **Silver Jan** in Post 363 (as did **Mahaloth** ). when I look at that post I see him voting for **Koldanar**.

Please tell me I’m not the only one who’ s seeing this 😕

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**Author:** ![MentalGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/439d5e/32.png) [@MentalGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MentalGuy)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2011, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deendee-mafia/588052/474 "2011-07-15T16:26:46Z")

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> [@USCDiver](#):
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> He is showing the votes, he just missed a carriage return. \*\*Koldanar’s \*\*votes start in the middle of **Silver Jan’s** line

Thank you.

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**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2011, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deendee-mafia/588052/475 "2011-07-15T18:49:51Z")

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welp

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**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2011, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deendee-mafia/588052/476 "2011-07-15T19:56:54Z")

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> [@Astral\_Rejection](#):
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> Night has fallen, and will last until July 16th at 6pm.

FYI, I will be out of town all weekend, returning some time Sunday evening, so I will miss the Start of Day.

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**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2011, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deendee-mafia/588052/477 "2011-07-15T20:03:55Z")

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[COLOR=Black]My apologies, but thanks for the corrections. Is this one correct? [/COLOR][COLOR=Black]I didn’t do the research myself, I just copied the last results from Mahaloth and then forgot to make the Koldanar change that Suburban had pointed out.

Maybe at some point, Someone (maybe me) can make one that shows unvotes and vote trends as well.  
[/COLOR]**[COLOR=Black]  
Voting summary  
KellyCriterion /COLOR:** Stanislaus [204], Choie [247], Scathach [293], special ed [295], TexCat [315]. Suburban Plankton [342], LightFoot [361] NormalPhase[397] USCDiver[432] Specialed[449]  
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Silver Jan (6):\*\* Red Skeezix [233]. ShadowFacts [360], pedescribe [369] choie[419] USCDiver[432], Suburban[433]\*\*

Koldanar (5): **Askthepizzaguy [225]. Mental Guy [219], Romanic [363], Scathach[411], SilverJan[416]  
\*\*  
Askthepizzaguy (3):** gnarlycharlie [228]. Koldanar [238], Septimus [248]\*\*

Normal Phase (1): **KellyCriterion [213]**

Septimus (1): **Normal Phase [338]**

pedescribe (1): **Silver Jan [382]**

Two Votes(7):  
Special Ed - **KellyCriterion, KellyCriterion**  
choie -\*\* KellyCriterion, Silver Jan\*\*  
USCDiver - **KellyCriterion, Silver Jan**  
Suburban Plankton -\*\* KellyCriterion, SilverJan\*\*  
Scathach - **KellyCriterion, Koldanar**  
Normal Phase - **Septimus, KellyCriterion**  
Silver Jan - **Pedescribe, Koldanar**

Not Voting(1):\*\* Inner Stickler

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**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2011, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deendee-mafia/588052/478 "2011-07-15T22:31:22Z")

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I’ve got this. I guarantee it’s mostly accurate:

**Red Skeezix (0)**: [del]Askthepizzaguy (137-225)[/del]  
**Tom Scud (0)**: [del]Normal Phase (140-196)[/del]  
**choie (0)**: [del]pedescribe (150-184)[/del]  
**pedescribe (1)**: [del]Stanislaus (159-204)[/del], Silver Jan (382)  
**special ed (0)**: [del]Suburban Plankton (169-250)[/del], [del]special ed (372-436)[/del]  
**KellyCriterion (10)**: [del]Normal Phase (196-338)[/del], [del]Shadowfacts (203-360)[/del], Stanislaus (204), [del]MentalGuy (217-319)[/del], choie (247), [del]Silver Jan (285-324)[/del], Scathach (293), special ed (295), texcat (315), Suburban Plankton (342), LightFoot (361), Normal Phase (397), USCDiver (432), special ed (449)  
**Koldanar (5)**: [del]Scathach (211-293)[/del], Askthepizzaguy (225), MentalGuy (319), Romanic (363), Scathach (411), Silver Jan (416)  
**Normal Phase (1)**: KellyCriterion (213), [del]Silver Jan (227-274)[/del]  
**Askthepizzaguy (3)**: gnarlycharlie (228), Koldanar (238), septimus (248)  
**Silver Jan (6)**: Red Skeezix (233), Shadowfacts (360), pedescribe (369), choie (419), [del]Mental Guy (429-430)[/del], USCDiver (432), Suburban Plankton (433)  
**Romanic (0)**: [del]Silver Jan (324-366)[/del]  
**Septimus (1)**: Normal Phase (338), [del]special ed (371-372)[/del]  
**Suburban Plankton (0)**: [del]special ed (436-449)[/del]

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**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2011, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deendee-mafia/588052/479 "2011-07-16T23:00:01Z")

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The night passed quietly. While a few townsfolk lamented the loss of KellyCriterion, most remained silent. A few adventurers joined the townsfolk in guarding the town, hopeful that their presence could ward off any further attacks from the Lords of Slaughter.

It didn’t.

It was mercifully silent. Hopefully, it was quick.

“Where’d the other half go?” One of the adventurers asked. Another just shrugged.

**Scathach** has been killed. Sadly, there isn’t enough left of him to identify.

**Day 2 has arrived. Nightfall will occur on July 21st at 6pm central time. There are 19 remaining players, and the hammer number is 12.**

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**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2011, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deendee-mafia/588052/480 "2011-07-16T23:04:14Z")

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great, a Scum Janitor? or a no reveal Night Kill?

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