# De'endee Mafia **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [July 6, 2011, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deendee-mafia/588052 "2011-07-06T16:30:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2011, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deendee-mafia/588052/81 "2011-07-08T22:35:31Z")
Official Player List 1. Normal Phase 2. Tom Scud 3. Askthepizzaguy 4. Inner Stickler 5. Koldanar 6. Pedescribe 7. MHaye 8. LightFoot 9. TexCat 10. Red Skeezix 11. Romanic 12. Septimus 13. Choie 14. KellyCriterion 15. Gnarlycharlie 16. SilverJan 17. special ed 18. ShadowFacts 19. Stanislaus 20. Scathach 21. Suburban Lightfoot, please note that you’re now officially playing. You’ve taken the place of MHaye. ---
**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2011, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deendee-mafia/588052/82 "2011-07-08T22:41:43Z")
Missed the edit window: Official Player List 1. Normal Phase 2. Tom Scud 3. Askthepizzaguy 4. Inner Stickler 5. Koldanar 6. Pedescribe 7. Mental Guy 8. LightFoot 9. TexCat 10. Red Skeezix 11. Romanic 12. Septimus 13. Choie 14. KellyCriterion 15. Gnarlycharlie 16. SilverJan 17. special ed 18. ShadowFacts 19. Stanislaus 20. Scathach 21. Suburban ---
**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2011, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deendee-mafia/588052/83 "2011-07-08T23:12:35Z")
All PMs are out. Please verify that you received your message in this thread. Also, feel free to discuss any rules, strategies, or ideas. Night 0 officially started when Mahaloth declared it earlier! This is going to be a rare, no color explanation of the leveling mechanic before we get started. For town, there are two ways to earn experience. Using your powers will grant you 50% of a level. Lynching scum will grant you a whole level. There is a 100% cap on experience per day/night cycle, which means successfully lynching scum will cap you for that day and night. How do the Lords of Slaughter gain experience? Maybe if you ask them nicely, they’ll tell you. Your new or improved abilities come at levels 3 and 5. For this campaign, level 5 is considered max level. One final note: just for completeness, the modified sample PM: Class: NPC Townsperson Alignment: Defenders of De’endee Role: NPC Powers: None Wincondition: You win when all threats to the Defenders of De’endee are vanquished and at least one member of the Defenders of De’endee is still alive. Have fun! ---
**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2011, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deendee-mafia/588052/84 "2011-07-08T23:19:14Z")
> [@Tom\_Scud](#): > > Wait… so we’re ALL neutral good drow elf rangers who’ve been exiled from our ancestral homeland? Nah, I’m a gnome rogue. I like it, because for some reason it pisses people off 🙂 Oh, and I have sharpened my pencil, polished my dice, and received my PM. I’ll be at the tavern waiting for everyone. Look for the short guy with the large tankard. ---
**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2011, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deendee-mafia/588052/85 "2011-07-08T23:21:22Z")
> [@MHaye](#): > > _Sigh._ > > You know, just for a laugh, I picked up a d20 kept just under my PC monitor and rolled to see what sort of Will save I would get. > > - I rolled a natural one. > > No, you can’t ask why I keep a d20 (and a d12) under my PC monitor. I have a Scrabble ‘F’ tile. It’s worth 4 points. ---
**Author:** ![fubbleskag](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@fubbleskag](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fubbleskag)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2011, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deendee-mafia/588052/86 "2011-07-08T23:36:38Z")
PM received. ---
**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2011, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deendee-mafia/588052/87 "2011-07-08T23:44:32Z")
> [@fubbleskag](#): > > PM received. Don’t do that to me! I honestly thought I had screwed up and sent you a PM on accident. I had a tiny moment of panic! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2011, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deendee-mafia/588052/88 "2011-07-08T23:57:07Z")
I search the room. Any Lords of Slaughter? ---
**Author:** ![special\_ed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@special\_ed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/special_ed)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2011, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deendee-mafia/588052/89 "2011-07-09T00:02:00Z")
PM received. Can I vote Captain Pinkies yet? ---
**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2011, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deendee-mafia/588052/90 "2011-07-09T00:32:50Z")
No. Do you think the leveling mechanic may cause a massive pile-up of power roles on the vote leader toward the end of the day (even if not strongly believed in) just on the off-chance they’re scum? Do you think it should? If so, should vanillas do the same? PM received. ---
**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2011, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deendee-mafia/588052/91 "2011-07-09T00:36:30Z")
> [@Normal\_Phase](#): > > No. > > Do you think the leveling mechanic may cause a massive pile-up of power roles on the vote leader toward the end of the day (even if not strongly believed in) just on the off-chance they’re scum? Do you think it should? If so, should vanillas do the same? > > PM received. Yes, yes, and yes. The idea of every piling\* votes onto the vote leader in the last minutes seems to be optimal to me. \*That’s a word that doesn’t look spelled right, even though it is. ---
**Author:** ![TexCat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/texcat/32/9041_2.png) [@TexCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TexCat)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2011, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deendee-mafia/588052/92 "2011-07-09T00:42:22Z")
PM received. We get two votes. **Can we vote twice for the same person?** ---
**Author:** ![choie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/choie/32/7829_2.png) [@choie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/choie)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2011, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deendee-mafia/588052/93 "2011-07-09T00:49:19Z")
PM received, thank you. To show you how dim I am…\*\* do we really need dice for this?\*\* ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2011, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deendee-mafia/588052/94 "2011-07-09T00:50:51Z")
> [@TexCat](#): > > PM received. > > We get two votes. **Can we vote twice for the same person?** Yes, but **if you place two votes on one person, you can not unvote them.** That is what Astral mean by “simultaneous votes”. Good clarification. > [@choie](#): > > PM received, thank you. > > To show you how dim I am…\*\* do we really need dice for this?\*\* Don’t worry about the dice. ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2011, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deendee-mafia/588052/95 "2011-07-09T01:00:30Z")
PM received. ---
**Author:** ![ShadowFacts](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shadowfacts/32/2934_2.png) [@ShadowFacts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowFacts)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2011, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deendee-mafia/588052/96 "2011-07-09T01:03:09Z")
PM received. I don’t have a lot of time at this second, but I did want to comment on what stood out most to me in the ruleset: the double vote plus tie-resolution mechanism could be a useful tool for us. If (and this is a big if) we can force a tie of the two most suspicious players, we can get two lynches per day. Two lynches for each Scum kill = advantage Town. The problem, of course, is getting a consensus on candidates and herding enough cats to arrange the tie. My experience tells me that this will be extremely challenging. But IMO it is worth a try. Anyone see a downside to the idea? ---
**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2011, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deendee-mafia/588052/97 "2011-07-09T01:10:36Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > > [@choie](#): > > > > PM received, thank you. > > > > To show you how dim I am…\*\* do we really need dice for this?\*\* > > Don’t worry about the dice. That doesn’t answer the question 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2011, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deendee-mafia/588052/98 "2011-07-09T01:10:51Z")
Well, if we’re wrong on both counts, we’ll burn through 50% more town. ---
**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2011, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deendee-mafia/588052/99 "2011-07-09T01:15:00Z")
> [@ShadowFacts](#): > > PM received. > > I don’t have a lot of time at this second, but I did want to comment on what stood out most to me in the ruleset: the double vote plus tie-resolution mechanism could be a useful tool for us. If (and this is a big if) we can force a tie of the two most suspicious players, we can get two lynches per day. Two lynches for each Scum kill = advantage Town. > > The problem, of course, is getting a consensus on candidates and herding enough cats to arrange the tie. My experience tells me that this will be extremely challenging. But IMO it is worth a try. Anyone see a downside to the idea? The biggest downside I see is that quite often the most suspicious players turn out to be Town. Burning through Townies at a 2-per-Day clip will end this game real fast. As the game progresses we might well find ourselves in a situation where this is a useful strategy, but I think we need to be pretty sure of ourselves before trying to make it work. And as you noted, it might be impossible to actually put such a plan into play. ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2011, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deendee-mafia/588052/100 "2011-07-09T01:25:12Z")
It would be great if we had a known scum and a suspicious player, other than that, I’d prefer to avoid lynching two players at the same time. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deendee-mafia/588052.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deendee-mafia/588052.md?page=6)