# De'endee Mafia **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [July 6, 2011, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deendee-mafia/588052 "2011-07-06T16:30:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 85
**Author:** ![Askthepizzaguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askthepizzaguy/32/9405_2.png) [@Askthepizzaguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askthepizzaguy)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2011, 11:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deendee-mafia/588052/1681 "2011-08-06T11:41:08Z")
> [@Normal\_Phase](#): > > He had no vote at all, is that what you’re saying? > > Go read Thundercats Mafia, at least. It might give some context why I’m so dubious. Inner subbed in on day two; Pleonast and I were the other two mafia. I don’t have time to digest a whole other game right now. I don’t care if he’s behaving exactly the way he always behaves! My case on him is not based on him acting oddly, it’s based on where his votes are, what he says, when he says it, and who turned up scum. He could behave like himself during the whole process, it doesn’t make it any less scummy. It’s not a behavior-based case, it’s a vote-based case. Where were the votes when it mattered? On the wrong places. Where was the pressure when it mattered? Nonexistent. If you’re going to bus someone, do it for real, don’t stick your left foot in, stick your left foot out, stick it back in and shake it all about. This isn’t the hokey pokey. This is mafia. That’s what it’s all about. ---
**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2011, 11:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deendee-mafia/588052/1682 "2011-08-06T11:46:48Z")
What I’m saying is the last time he was scum, he was VERY different. Strikingly different. I just double checked; he only had 8 posts in that game. It won’t take you long. See how he reacts when a scumbuddy (Pleonast) is under pressure (votes to save him, but with major justification), see what he does when under pressure himself (nothing). I would like to see the context of his day two vote; it’s always possible he’s just picked up his game play since then. But I have several people I’d like to see dead before him. ---
**Author:** ![Askthepizzaguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askthepizzaguy/32/9405_2.png) [@Askthepizzaguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askthepizzaguy)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2011, 11:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deendee-mafia/588052/1683 "2011-08-06T11:55:14Z")
> [@Normal\_Phase](#): > > What I’m saying is the last time he was scum, he was VERY different. Strikingly different. I just double checked; he only had 8 posts in that game. It won’t take you long. See how he reacts when a scumbuddy (Pleonast) is under pressure (votes to save him, but with major justification), see what he does when under pressure himself (nothing). Well… Look I see what you’re saying, but look at anyone’s play variation from game to game. Some games I don’t stand up and shout at everyone and pressure everyone, some games I do the exact opposite. Some games I ignore pressure on myself completely, some games I attack anyone who votes for me. Some games I just wagon people, especially if I have no time, others, I try to lead the wagons more often. If he acted differently as scum in one game, or the same as scum in one game, that’s not really a huge history you can pattern effectively. He could have switched up his game. Even when I was a big advocate of behavior patterns, and I still am, I noted that people do not always behave the same in every game. They have a range of behaviors. And it was not one or two variations from standard that got me going, but many different ones, especially ones that you don’t consciously avoid repeating. I think it’s obvious from reading his posts he’s very measured and focused. His behavior is strikingly solid all game long, very smooth, very even. It’s calculated, as town or scum; as such, what you look for is not the poker face itself, but how much he’s betting, when he’s betting it, and why. I can’t read his poker face and I’m not trying to. It’s one of the weaker ways of getting somebody, and it’s not very accurate, even if it is useful. I’m more concerned with his intentions, and even with a solid poker face, one’s intentions are revealed through votes. > [@](#): > > I would like to see the context of his day two vote; it’s always possible he’s just picked up his game play since then. But I have several people I’d like to see dead before him. Fair enough. Hey, I haven’t exactly agreed with your Mental case. 😃 Pun intended. ---
**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2011, 11:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deendee-mafia/588052/1684 "2011-08-06T11:58:17Z")
Correction: Far as I can tell you have not even looked at my Mental case. At least we’re on the same page as regards Suburban Plankton. Salut! ---
**Author:** ![Askthepizzaguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askthepizzaguy/32/9405_2.png) [@Askthepizzaguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askthepizzaguy)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2011, 12:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deendee-mafia/588052/1685 "2011-08-06T12:03:08Z")
> [@Normal\_Phase](#): > > Correction: Far as I can tell you have not even looked at my Mental case. Maybe I have not done it too deeply, but I have read every word of this thread several times over by now. I never had any strong enough reaction one way or the other, and have always been keeping busy with my own leads I suppose. Sorry; if I survive I’ll look harder at what others have to say. I think I’ve spent my entire supply of photon torpedoes by now. I’m willing to follow and not lead, simply due to if I am correct then I am and hopefully we win soon, and if I am not, then I need to start looking at everyone else’s cases more closely anyway. ---
**Author:** ![gnarlycharlie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/5f9b8f/32.png) [@gnarlycharlie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnarlycharlie)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2011, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deendee-mafia/588052/1686 "2011-08-06T15:12:15Z")
> [@Suburban\_Plankton](#): > > Regarding **gnarlycharlie** , it was actually \*\*MentalGuy \*\*who first called him out for posting “almost all generic strategy or game mechanics”, and **Normal Phase** who agreed one post later, back on Day 2. > > A closer look at **gnarlycharlie** : > > [spoiler] > Day 1: > voted Askthepizzaguy for his early, non-explained vote on Koldanar. Later says he understands Pizza’s idea of ‘pressure votes’, but still finds it suspicious. He wonders why Silver Jan claimed when she was not the lynch leader, and points out that the ‘discrepancy’ in Silver Jan’s PM may be duure to the fact that she is Scum, or maybe an effort by the mods to prevent handshaking. > > Day 2: > Agrees that some power is delaying the death reveals. Thinks it was a mistake for LightFoot to claim. Attacks Normal Phase and Mental Guy vor voting him for posting only general strategy and game mechanics. Questions USCDiver about his voting Pizza “for obvious reasons”, then votes USCDiver for flip-flopping on Pizza. Also votes Normal for making a bad case against him, but later agrees to reread to see if his vote on Normal will stay or not. It does. > > Day 3: > Votes Septimus after the Day 2 shenanigans. Votes Mental Guy for making a bad case against him, but now believes Normal is town. Still finds USCDiver suspicious > > Day 4: > Votes ShadowFacts because he is “unlikely to do anything we tell him”, and possible because he didn’t double his vote on red early in the Day. Will hold on to his second vote until he hears from LightFoot. Never returns to place a second vote. Still suspicious of USCDiver and MentalGuy. > > He has voted for Askthepizzaguy (Day 1), USCDiver and Normal Phase (Day 2), Septimus and Mental Guy (Day 3), and ShadowFacts (Day 4). With the exception of Septimus, none of these people were ever in any danger of actually being lynched, he has not voted for the same person more than once, and not once has he changed a vote once it was made. [/spoiler] > > He seems to be trying very hard to participate in the game, but not to be trying much at all to actually contribute. > On preview I see your comments on the Vig. Give me a few minutes to look them over… if i were to characterize my play, i have been hardly participating rather than trying hard to participate. i’m not proud of it but i have more time now and will post more. > [@Askthepizzaguy](#): > > **Full case on why Inner Stickler deserves to be a top suspect:** > > Little can be read into these comments either way in any reliable fashion. Even if, for example, Inner flip-flops on the well-intentioned idea of not voting twice, that’s what townies will do. I’ve done it. > 1)\*\* Inner Stickler\*\* is among the first to mention the paranoid doc idea, if not the first. I think he’s the first. Have to check. This is why I figured, like Red Skeezix, Inner Stickler could have been breadcrumbing. > > I have been waiting for the other shoe to drop all game long, and Stickler hasn’t been attacked, and no one has claimed even when prompted to do so. > > And, wouldn’t a scum roleblocker claim paranoid doc, just to be able to have something important to claim later? As such, if Inner claims paranoid doc tomorrow, I’m not going to believe it. I’ll think scum roleblocker instead. > > Why this is interesting is because this is the only reason given for why it’s a bad idea. And, if Inner were such a doctor, this sort of post should scream at the scumbags “murder me”, and as such, it’s unwise to post it. > > 1. “I disagree with skeezix’s case on shadowfacts on principle, in that I agree with Shadowfacts wholeheartedly.” > > This isn’t a great way of finding someone innocent or guilty IMO. Agreeing on a policy is not hard for the scums to fake. It’s poor reasoning IMO, as such, I think it could be an example of **fake reasoning** not to follow Skeezix regarding ShadowFacts. > > _blush_ > > Sorry… just doing my job here… uh moving on to the next post. > > And repeats it. I was almost sure that Stickler was saying this because Stickler knows the doc, and in a no PM reveal game, that means it would be Stickler. > > But it doesn’t add up. You don’t want to breadcrumb this kind of information. Unlike the vigilante, breadcrumbing a doctor/blocker action IS scummy. It’s not something that follows from the role. A vigilante has to explain himself, a doctor doesn’t, even a paranoid one. > > **Slight scum read on behavior.** > > Indicates prepping a claim later of being a paranoid doc, when Inner is just a scum roleblocker. Not being careful as a doc, indicates not a doc. > > Acutely aware of the tally and when the phase ends. Scums would be, some townies might be. > > **If Scum:** > This post suggests that septimus was screwed, and the plan was, bus and distance from septimus. that is consistent with what happened. > > **If Townie:** > Correct reasoning. > > It’s hard to tell which is the case. > > **If Scum:** > Easy points for distancing Stickler from Suburban, even though they end up voting the same way. > > **If Townie:** > Thanks for the agreement. Would you follow-up and lynch Suburban? > > Hard to tell which is the case. > > **If Scum:** > Major, easy distancing points. > > **If Townie:** > Good, correct points. > > Hard to tell which is the case. > > **If Scum:** > Major, easy distancing points. > > **If Townie:** > Good, correct points. > > Hard to tell which is the case. > > Sensing a pattern? If the plan is bus septimus, then going directly at his throat hardcore is not all that difficult to fake. You know he’s guilty, so what could you be afraid of? Being murdered? > > Pizza says nah-uh. This could go either way. > > Town vig? > > Inner mentions the vig who at that point was nonexistent. > > As I mentioned before when I did the analysis that lead directly to septimus, one of the points against Inner Stickler was the early mentions of vigilantes. Scum would be aware of the vigilante since they had powers dedicated to refuting him. > > Possible **perfect information syndrome.** Needs a re-read to determine if Inner was the first or among the first to suggest the vig exists. > > The plan of course was to bus septimus. Therefore there’s no townie indicators here. Again not sure on ShadowFacts. If Shadow is also scum, that puts major scum points on Inner Stickler. > > Well he was going to do so, obviously. Asking him like it is a threat if he doesn’t sort of has a whiff of acting. > > All consistent with any plan to bus and distance from septimus. > No firm conclusion either way. > > So, if there’s a roleblocker preventing the detective from taking action, you’d agree with their actions, block instead of kill? Interesting. > > This is great stuff, and is so true it has a very strong whiff of townie to it. > > That said, does it remain the case that Stickler feels this way when septimus has a chance at living? > > That’s the real test, isn’t it? > > Test fail. > > Scum don’t have a janitor, but townies need a coroner to get results. Okay… nice theory. A bit too nice, really. > > Basically, wasn’t interested in killing septimus until it was time to bus him, > Then, went after septimus hardcore, > Then, instead of doubling vote on septimus, Stickler avoids ShadowFacts’ death and locks in on texCat, and again defends ShadowFacts. > > Basically, Inner being townie depends on ShadowFacts being townie. > > If Shadow is townie, I can buy some of this. If he’s not, Inner must die. > > Inner has always been interested in the voting and experience point discussions, indicating power role. And so my theory was, he was a power role. > > But I see him as either a paranoid doctor… and I’d be skeptical… or he’s the scum roleblocker himself. > > Inner knows the rules quite well. > > Okay. > > Inner has spent some time thinking about this. > > I don’t, I was just laying a theory out there to see if I got any nibbles. > > I think Inner Stickler, if scum, is the designated “advocate everything that is good for the town” guy. > > I would do whatever Stickler has said, for the most part… ShadowFacts being an exception. That said, Stickler is leaning guilty to me. > > Godfather role. > > Perfect Information. > > Why assume a godfather role is in the game? > > Okay so we finally do bus him, after it is clear he is going to die and flip scum. Good. > > Thanks for your support. > > You’re leaning town on Skeezix now, great… what about ShadowFacts? Still innocent? > > Very consistent. It matches the entire rest of Inner’s play pattern. If he has a scum role, he is definitely playing the distancing, bussing, devil’s advocate game, almost flawlessly. > > The flaws I see are false breadcrumbing, and several instances of PIS. > > Certainly you weren’t surprised by the result though? You were sure he was guilty. > > I didn’t see what this was in reference to so I’ll skip it. > > Inner is saying everything I’d expect him to say as town, and yet, he’s also saying a lot more I am having trouble writing off as innocent. > > Either he’s really on his game or he’s scum. > > Everything he says “sounds townie”. It’s so very even and consistent. > > Again Inner leaps into the experience point discussion and number of scumbags. > > I just don’t get NPC townie from Stickler, and yet, I also wouldn’t buy PC townie claim from Stickler at the moment either. > > Hmmph. > > Anyway. Inner Stickler is awesome. If he’s townie, he’s one of the best that we have. If he’s scum, he’s playing an excellent game with only a couple minor errors. > > But the PIS with the godfather thing, and some other examples, and the paranoid doctor thing, all smell like a set-up where Stickler claims paranoid doc later on in the game. And it keeps him alive one more round… maybe two. And he gets to block Lightfoot all this time. As long as she’s blocked, she’s no threat. > > I don’t believe he’s an NPC, he’s too interested in the game mechanics and the leveling up. I don’t believe he’s a PC, because the doc or the coroner are the only ones left that should be major, and I’m not smelling doc from Inner Stickler. He’d be much more careful about wagoning and breadcrumbing clues about the doctor. Real doctors would be more concerned with not making any clues or waves and protecting the detective. > > That leaves scum. That explains why he wasn’t for septimus until septimus acted obviously scum, and then Inner Stickler went for his throat as hard as he could… until ShadowFacts was also on the block. So he didn’t double down on septimus or Shadow, he went for TexCat. > > Then, it was too much and he finally joined the wagon on septimus, again, after someone else made the big push for it to happen. Otherwise, Inner wasn’t going to make that move. > > Inner is making every move possible to look as townie as possible, but little flaws reveal that he knows more about the game than he should, especially with regards to Red Skeezix the vigilante, septimus the godfather, and paranoid doctors who shouldn’t be breadcrumbing, and experience, leveling, and number of scums. > > **Sorry, Inner Stickler**. **[7/10]** > > It’s possible to look \*too \*townie. Why it’s bad is because the townie-ness about you disappears when suspects septimus or ShadowFacts have any chance at living through a round, and I’m afraid townies make more mistakes than you’re making. Your play is too perfect. > > Do you have a solid defense? Convince me. i’m puzzled about your comment about **Inner Stickler** hinting he was a paranoid doc. how is that different from sharing possibilities with town? i certainly considered there being a paranoid doc and would have brought it up if no one id. ---
**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2011, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deendee-mafia/588052/1687 "2011-08-06T16:44:50Z")
> [@Askthepizzaguy](#): > > I had figured you for the doctor all this time, but this quote does not fit the doctor role at all. > [@Askthepizzaguy](#): > > In terms of why Stickler’s on the list, it’s a combination of things. > > snip > > I’m hoping my suspicions can be resolved by answering questions, but if not I’ll have to push a bit harder on Stickler. These are two back to back quotes, so you’ve been convinced that \*\*Inner \*\*was the doctor, but also convinced he is a Scum? ---
**Author:** ![ShadowFacts](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shadowfacts/32/2934_2.png) [@ShadowFacts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowFacts)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2011, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deendee-mafia/588052/1688 "2011-08-06T21:15:27Z")
OK, I’ve been away from computer for a bit, but I’m trying to catch up. I want to take a look at this case by \*\*PizzaGuy \*\*in the light of the \*\*septimus \*\*reveal as Scum. > [@Askthepizzaguy](#): > > I propose several explanations for Red Skeezix as townie. > 1.) A doctor protected septimus (instead of Lightfoot?). If so, they must claim to prevent bad lynches. Haven’t done it yet, and as such, I would reject any such claim as being remotely trustworthy. Not bloody likely. > > 2.) Red Skeezix was roleblocked and then the host lied to him about the nature of his failure. Not bloody likely. > > 3.) Red Skeezix is just lying for the hell of it, even though it’s going to cost him his life. Not bloody likely. > > 4.) Okay, so no doc protection, no roleblock, and Red wasn’t lying about the attack. Therefore, Red Skeezix attacked a bulletproof septimus on N2. Which, by the way, happened at the same time that special ed was being murdered by, presumably, the Lords of Slaughter, further indicating that Red Skeezix is not one of them. For this to be true, septimus has to be either lying or unaware that his bulletproof was used up. Red Skeezix’ information seems to indicate either protection or evasion (self-protect). > > Is it likely that a townie septimus would be lying here? Not bloody likely. > Is it likely that a townie bulletproof _wouldn’t be aware he was attacked and unable to self-protect ever again?_ Ask the game host, septimus. I think the answer is: Not bloody likely. > > So, if he wasn’t using his bulletproof, he was not a one-time bulletproof, he was a forever bulletproof, which means he’s lying, but townie septimus shouldn’t be lying here. If he’s still got his one-time bulletproof, that means he was defended by a doctor. Again, we’ve ruled that out, as it is Not Bloody Likely. > 5.) Red Skeezix is telling the truth, and septimus is lying. > > This is possible. > > Unless you can find a bloody likely other explanation, septimus is scum, septimus must die. > > \ > > **ShadowFacts** , since you’re damned certain it’s Skeezix, I want YOUR rebuttal to this. So, what happened Night Two? We know that \*\*special ed \*\*was killed, and I think we all have been presuming all along that this was the Scum kill. Nothing we know contradicts this, so I think we can say with almost certainty that Scum killed **ed**. Any disagreement? Didn’t think so. \*\*Skeezix \*\*claims to be the Vig and to have targeted **septimus**. We now know that \*\*septimus \*\*was not, in fact, bulletproof. \*\*Skeezix \*\*claims that \*\*septimus \*\*was protected. With bulletproof off the table, the only other option besides \*\*Skeezix \*\* lying is said protection. Looking at \*\*Pizza’s \*\* 5 points again: _“1.) A doctor protected septimus (instead of Lightfoot?). If so, they must claim to prevent bad lynches. Haven’t done it yet, and as such, I would reject any such claim as being remotely trustworthy. Not bloody likely.”_ I agree completely, as I said yesterDay. A doc protecting \*\*septimus \*\*instead of \*\*LightFoot \*\*is nearly ludicrous. 2.) and 3.) also are right out. What about point 4? _“4.) Okay, so no doc protection, no roleblock, and Red wasn’t lying about the attack. Therefore, Red Skeezix attacked a bulletproof septimus on N2.”_ Whoops, nope, that’s not possible now. NOW it becomes: No doc protection, no roleblock, no bulletproof; so Red **must be** lying about the attack. Which means there is now a NEW point 5: 5.) \*\*septimus **was lying AND Red Skeezix was lying. \*\* If we reject the idea of someone protecting septimus, I don’t see any other possible conclusion.** I await your rebuttal, **Pizza**. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Askthepizzaguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askthepizzaguy/32/9405_2.png) [@Askthepizzaguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askthepizzaguy)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2011, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deendee-mafia/588052/1689 "2011-08-06T21:44:17Z")
> [@USCDiver](#): > > These are two back to back quotes, so you’ve been convinced that \*\*Inner \*\*was the doctor, but also convinced he is a Scum? No. I had figured he was either the doctor, or a scumbag. Now I’m pretty sure he’s not the doctor, and leaning scumbag. ---
**Author:** ![Askthepizzaguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askthepizzaguy/32/9405_2.png) [@Askthepizzaguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askthepizzaguy)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2011, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deendee-mafia/588052/1690 "2011-08-06T21:46:41Z")
> [@ShadowFacts](#): > > I await your rebuttal, **Pizza**. 🙂 If septimus is scum and he was, and the mafia have abilities to deflect Red Skeezix’ attack, either by the beguiler role having some defense, or the scumbags having a scum doctor protecting him, then Red Skeezix is not lying. My points ruled out a townie doctor, not a scum one. ---
**Author:** ![LightFoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@LightFoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LightFoot)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2011, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deendee-mafia/588052/1691 "2011-08-06T22:46:41Z")
This board ( or my comp) keeps loggng me out. humour me is EON in about 14 minutes? ---
**Author:** ![LightFoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@LightFoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LightFoot)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2011, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deendee-mafia/588052/1692 "2011-08-06T22:49:57Z")
The one person that I can confirm Town is gaining some Town cred by himself. In the event the evildoers get me tonight should I out said player or leave be? Your thoughts ---
**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2011, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deendee-mafia/588052/1693 "2011-08-06T23:31:58Z")
Well I think it’s a moot point now as it’s past the deadline. But I’d have said yes. _shakes fist at Astral for being late_ ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2011, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deendee-mafia/588052/1694 "2011-08-06T23:34:03Z")
I would have given the player name but that’s just me. Whoo, we’re running late today. I wonder what happened. ---
**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2011, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deendee-mafia/588052/1695 "2011-08-06T23:37:02Z")
I’m fairly sure she’s talking about ATPG, anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2011, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deendee-mafia/588052/1696 "2011-08-06T23:39:38Z")
Astral’s not even online right now, or if he is, he’s surfing in Invisible Mode. Maha is though and his last activity is 6:13. I’m guessing he’s pulling all the stuff together now. Or mafia’s not the only item on his plate, which is absolutely ridiculous. I demand the moderator’s full and constant attention at all times. That would make sense, Normal. ---
**Author:** ![Astral\_Rejection](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@Astral\_Rejection](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astral_Rejection)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2011, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deendee-mafia/588052/1697 "2011-08-06T23:54:13Z")
Your humble narrator was definitely not asleep. “Reckon his head’ll be blown clear off. Ka-POW!” The warrior said, nodding. The ranger sighed. “Man, don’t you go start with me. Let’s just do this in silence.” “Or maybe they’ll have been cuttin’ on him for a spell. Them Lords sure are a miserable bunch.” “I would consider it a kindness if you stopped speculating on what we’re gonna find.” “I’m jes’ saying, you know it’s gonna be awful. ‘Spect they’ll be wantin’ some kind of revenge for the way we killed that **Septimus** thing.” The two walked in silence for a while. They stopped at each house, knocking and waiting for a response. And at each home, they were greeted by the unmistakeable signs of life. So far, so good. “Think we’ll nail ourselves another today?” The ranger asked, as they moved towards the next home. The soft glow from a candle was already flickering in the window, obvious in the pale morning light. “Well, it’s like my Uncle Minky says. Try, try, and try again ‘til you can’t try no longer. And if that don’t work, why, you’ve just gone and wasted a whole lotta time tryin’ to do something you just couldn’t do.” * * * “Well?” The mayor asked. He shivered a little, the sun not yet above the rim of the hills surrounding De’endee. “Nobody.” The mayor smiled. “Good. Think they left?” The barbarian shook his head. “No. But I bet they’re scared.” **Day has now arrived, and will last until Thursday, August 11th at 6 pm central time.** ---
**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2011, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deendee-mafia/588052/1698 "2011-08-06T23:57:51Z")
Pfft… I don’t see how \*\*RedSkeezix \*\*could NOT be scum! No kill on the night he was reportedly blocked. States he tried to Vig the bulletproof player who was NOT bulletproof! I’ll be anxiously awaiting \*\*Lightfoot \*\*and **ShadowFacts** , but in the meantime… **vote RedSkeezix** ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2011, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deendee-mafia/588052/1699 "2011-08-06T23:58:10Z")
Lemme guess, Shadowfacts is gonna come barreling in here, telling us he blocked Skeezix again and will we please lynch him. ---
**Author:** ![USCDiver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uscdiver/32/354_2.png) [@USCDiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/USCDiver)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2011, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deendee-mafia/588052/1700 "2011-08-07T00:04:11Z")
> [@Inner\_Stickler](#): > > Lemme guess, Shadowfacts is gonna come barreling in here, telling us he blocked Skeezix again and will we please lynch him. Yeah, that’s what I figured too. ETA… I also what to see who \*\*RedSkeezix \*\*failed to kill this time! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deendee-mafia/588052.md?page=84) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deendee-mafia/588052.md?page=86)