# Deep Space 9 on Spike TV, people!

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [March 24, 2004, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deep-space-9-on-spike-tv-people/236216 "2004-03-24T22:41:38Z")\
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**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2004, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deep-space-9-on-spike-tv-people/236216/61 "2004-04-08T16:47:27Z")

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> [@gonzoron](#):
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> WAHOOO!!!
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> Man, it was like seeing an old friend for the first time in 5 years…
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> Little pangs of joy each time I saw something I thought forgotten: The theme song, the beautiful wormhole effect, the Bajoran earrings, Morn, Sisko with hair, Odo’s office, Mahair Du.

I’m catching about the 6p-9p shows when I get home from work. Oh, I forgot they used to call Odo “Constable.” I forgot Kira cut her hair and Sisko once had hair and no beard. The by-play between Odo and Quark. Plus we saw Garak again! Sigh…

My kids are old enough to watch it now (they weren’t when it was on before) and they’re enjoying it, even though I have to tell them “Shush, I’ll explain during the commercial!” a lot.

I am falling in love with this show all over again. It is grittier. It’s not the clean, neat and tidy universe that TNG was. Things get messy, and sometimes you can’t clean up all the mess.

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**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2004, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deep-space-9-on-spike-tv-people/236216/62 "2004-04-09T00:49:24Z")

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Used to call him Constable? It’s been five years since I saw the series (none of the stations back home carried it after its finale) so I could be forgetting something, but wasn’t he always called constable?

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2004, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deep-space-9-on-spike-tv-people/236216/63 "2004-04-09T01:16:42Z")

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> [@Aesiron](#):
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> but wasn’t he always called constable?

While Quark called him “Dirty Copper”, the rest of the crew refered to him as “Gumby” for the first season.

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**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2004, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deep-space-9-on-spike-tv-people/236216/64 "2004-04-09T01:19:44Z")

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You Pakled, I’ve watched the first season. If you wanted to pull the targ hair over my eyes, you should have at least said season two or three.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2004, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deep-space-9-on-spike-tv-people/236216/65 "2004-04-09T01:24:27Z")

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> [@Aesiron](#):
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> you should have at least said season two or three.

Come to think of it, that may have worked…  
\*Dammit!/i]

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**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2004, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deep-space-9-on-spike-tv-people/236216/66 "2004-04-09T01:26:42Z")

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…unlike your shoddy HTML. 😃

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**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2004, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deep-space-9-on-spike-tv-people/236216/67 "2004-04-09T01:28:31Z")

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Or VBCode. Either, or.

Oops.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2004, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deep-space-9-on-spike-tv-people/236216/68 "2004-04-09T02:01:28Z")

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> [@Aesiron](#):
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> …unlike your shoddy HTML. 😃

You sound like Kahn, for G-d’s sake.

“When I saw your pitiable HTML, I wanted you to know who had beaten you!”

Talk to a minister, a Rabbi or the school counselor.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2004, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deep-space-9-on-spike-tv-people/236216/69 "2004-04-09T02:03:25Z")

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Oh yeah, and “Mine is the superior Visual Basic!”

Get a grip.

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**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2004, 12:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deep-space-9-on-spike-tv-people/236216/70 "2004-04-09T12:56:59Z")

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> [@Aesiron](#):
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> Used to call him Constable? It’s been five years since I saw the series (none of the stations back home carried it after its finale) so I could be forgetting something, but wasn’t he always called constable?

You’re right. That’s what I meant. I forgot their pet name for him.

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**Author:** ![gonzoron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a6a055/32.png) [@gonzoron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzoron)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2004, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deep-space-9-on-spike-tv-people/236216/71 "2004-04-09T15:09:02Z")

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Yeah, seeing Garak again in the tail end of “Cardassians” the other day almost made me get weepy.

All this nostalgia finally kicked me in the pants and made me dump the boring “classic” I was trudging through and start in on the DS9 book Avatar. It’s the first one set AFTER the series ended. Anyone read it? I’m loving it so far, and I’m usually pretty harsh on Trek and other franchise books.

Kira’s in charge, Ezri, Bashir, and Quark are still around. Kassidy’s still pregnant and she and Jake are dealing with losing Sisko. Nog takes over for O’Brien, Ro Laren takes over for Odo, and there are some other new crew members, too. Really captures the feel of the end of the show.

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**Author:** ![Michael\_Ellis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/977dab/32.png) [@Michael\_Ellis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Michael_Ellis)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2004, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deep-space-9-on-spike-tv-people/236216/72 "2004-04-09T15:25:53Z")

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Been laid up with a cold all week and spent most of it watching the DS9 marathon in between fever dreams involving Crusaders baking desserts and Jewel Kilcher. The main feeling I’ve come away with is a conviction that Kira whats-her-name is a total babe. Yowza!

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**Author:** ![Ponder\_Stibbons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ponder_stibbons/32/343_2.png) [@Ponder\_Stibbons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ponder_Stibbons)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2004, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deep-space-9-on-spike-tv-people/236216/73 "2004-04-09T15:33:44Z")

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Pah! What’s so exciting about many-years-old DS9 re-runs? The real news on Spike TV is we’ve got new episodes of MXC coming soon!! 🙂

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**Author:** ![Michael\_Ellis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/977dab/32.png) [@Michael\_Ellis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Michael_Ellis)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2004, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deep-space-9-on-spike-tv-people/236216/74 "2004-04-09T16:29:53Z")

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> [@Ponder Stibbons](#):
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> Pah! What’s so exciting about many-years-old DS9 re-runs? The real news on Spike TV is we’ve got new episodes of MXC coming soon!! 🙂

Because of Kira, man. _Kira!_

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**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2004, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deep-space-9-on-spike-tv-people/236216/75 "2004-04-09T16:52:16Z")

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> [@Ponder Stibbons](#):
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> Pah! What’s so exciting about many-years-old DS9 re-runs?

Because they’ve been in hiding all this time?

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**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2004, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deep-space-9-on-spike-tv-people/236216/76 "2004-04-10T03:52:37Z")

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> [@gonzoron](#):
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> Yeah, seeing Garak again in the tail end of “Cardassians” the other day almost made me get weepy.
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> All this nostalgia finally kicked me in the pants and made me dump the boring “classic” I was trudging through and start in on the DS9 book Avatar. It’s the first one set AFTER the series ended. Anyone read it? I’m loving it so far, and I’m usually pretty harsh on Trek and other franchise books.
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> Kira’s in charge, Ezri, Bashir, and Quark are still around. Kassidy’s still pregnant and she and Jake are dealing with losing Sisko. Nog takes over for O’Brien, Ro Laren takes over for Odo, and there are some other new crew members, too. Really captures the feel of the end of the show.

I’ve read most of the Relaunch series and it is superb. Search out all the books and read them all. You will love me for it.

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**Author:** ![spiralscratch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dfb087/32.png) [@spiralscratch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/spiralscratch)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2004, 6:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deep-space-9-on-spike-tv-people/236216/77 "2004-04-10T06:10:27Z")

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> [@gonzoron](#):
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> Kira’s in charge, Ezri, Bashir, and Quark are still around. Kassidy’s still pregnant and she and Jake are dealing with losing Sisko. Nog takes over for O’Brien, Ro Laren takes over for Odo, and there are some other new crew members, too. Really captures the feel of the end of the show.

I hate to comment on one of the books, especially since I haven’t read it (or any of them, for that matter). However, a couple things in this summary bug me:

Nog takes over for O’Brien? Not bloody likely. Nog doesn’t have the experience to lead Operations for an entire station. He’d only just made Lieutenant in the last two minutes of the last episode.

Ro Laren, head of station security? This had me laughing. She’s been in trouble with Starfleet numerous times, and she defected to the Maquis. Even if she were there as part of the Bejoran Militia and not Starfleet I still can’t buy it. Hell, why not just let Eddington out on parole and have him do it? He already knows the station.

(Yeah, I know. It’s Star Trek, and things in that world often don’t make sense. Still)

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**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2004, 6:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deep-space-9-on-spike-tv-people/236216/78 "2004-04-10T06:33:06Z")

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> [@spiralscratch](#):
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> Hell, why not just let Eddington out on parole and have him do it? He already knows the station.

He’s also dead, which might have something to do with it…

(Unless he somehow comes back to life in season 7. Haven’t watched that season’s DVDs yet.)

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**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2004, 6:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deep-space-9-on-spike-tv-people/236216/79 "2004-04-10T06:36:06Z")

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Nog is the OPs officer on the Defiant or something… I don’t believe he becomes Chief of Engineering but I could be wrong. And why would Laren be held accountable by the Bajorans for being part of the Maquis? They would welcome her back with open arms considering what she did to try to help them

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**Author:** ![spiralscratch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dfb087/32.png) [@spiralscratch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/spiralscratch)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2004, 7:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/deep-space-9-on-spike-tv-people/236216/80 "2004-04-10T07:26:52Z")

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> [@Smeghead](#):
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> He’s also dead, which might have something to do with it…
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> (Unless he somehow comes back to life in season 7. Haven’t watched that season’s DVDs yet.)

Aw hell, he did die, didn’t he. I’d completely forgotten about that. My bad.

> [@Aesiron](#):
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> And why would Laren be held accountable by the Bajorans for being part of the Maquis? They would welcome her back with open arms considering what she did to try to help them

The Maquis did nothing to help Bejor. They were there to help themselves and the others in the DMZ. Those were Federation worlds, not Bejoran. The Bejoran government owes her nothing.

Ro is a fugitive and traitor as far as Starfleet and the Federation are concerned. They’d want her to stand trial for what she did. As she was a part of Starfleet, was accountable to them, and committed crimes against them and the Federation, I would think the Bejoran government would have to hand her over.

Also, consider the mistrust Starfleet had for Odo in that position, and then imagine putting in someone that had actually screwed Starfleet in the past. Bejor wants to be a part of the Federation, and a move like that would certainly strain relations.

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