# Defamation etc. **URL:** \ **Category:** About This Message Board\ **Created:** [January 21, 2016, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/defamation-etc/743754 "2016-01-21T03:33:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2016, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/defamation-etc/743754/61 "2016-01-21T15:59:29Z")
> [@Muffin](#): > > Specifically, it is false, defamatory, inaccurate, abusive and vulgar – all of which are prohibited in the registration agreement. Well, I guess the mods need to ban 99% of the posters. > [@hajario](#): > > Very easily identifiable with tineye which is how more than one person did the identification. Yes, many members are very good at internet stalking. > [@simster](#): > > I reported on post 1 that this was a violation - if not for trolling, but for promoting illegal behavior (in most of the US). So talking about prostitution is very very bad and should be banned right away, but talking about pedophilia should be allowed to encourage discussion and education. ---
**Author:** ![Sattua](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sattua/32/11906_2.png) [@Sattua](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sattua)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2016, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/defamation-etc/743754/62 "2016-01-21T16:17:07Z")
> [@Drunky\_Smurf](#): > > So talking about prostitution is very very bad and should be banned right away, but talking about pedophilia should be allowed to encourage discussion and education. No, but perhaps fraudulently presenting oneself as a happy and fulfilled prostitute who thinks it’s a great way to have fun while making lots of money could be called “promoting” the activity. ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2016, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/defamation-etc/743754/63 "2016-01-21T16:19:19Z")
> [@Emiliana](#): > > Lots of people didn’t get the hint that it might not be a prostitute from the opening post. Probability, perhaps, is not a board-wide strong suit. Willful suspension of disbelief is what I suspect in this case. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2016, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/defamation-etc/743754/64 "2016-01-21T16:21:35Z")
> [@Drunky\_Smurf](#): > > Well, I guess the mods need to ban 99% of the posters. > > Yes, many members are very good at internet stalking. > > So talking about prostitution is very very bad and should be banned right away, but talking about pedophilia should be allowed to encourage discussion and education. talking about prostitution is one thing - encouraging/promoting prostitution is another. (unless the thread is about that prostitution shouldn’t be illegal). (for consistency - look at the rules about discussing POT). ---
**Author:** ![engineer\_comp\_geek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/engineer_comp_geek/32/504_2.png) [@engineer\_comp\_geek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/engineer_comp_geek)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2016, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/defamation-etc/743754/65 "2016-01-21T16:30:48Z")
**Moderator Note** I’m an engineer, not a lawyer, but it seems to me that using real names in this thread could be problematic from a legal point of view. Taking a better-safe-than-sorry approach, I’ve edited the names out of those posts. ---
**Author:** ![Peremensoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ce7236/32.png) [@Peremensoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peremensoe)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2016, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/defamation-etc/743754/66 "2016-01-21T16:40:02Z")
> [@Morgenstern](#): > > I really think this would have been better handled in a PM to the mods. Forcing them into a corner with such a post in ATMB isn’t fair to them, or the board. If the OP was really who she claimed to be, then this is pretty shitty. If she was a troll, then all the BS didn’t need to happen, the mods deal with trolls all the time. Oh please! This was an obvious troll from the get-go, and the mods clearly failed to deal with it. ---
**Author:** ![kayT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayt/32/3633_2.png) [@kayT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayT)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2016, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/defamation-etc/743754/67 "2016-01-21T17:01:14Z")
> [@Peremensoe](#): > > Oh please! This was an obvious troll from the get-go, and the mods clearly failed to deal with it. Agreed. However, when mods are not dealing with an obvious troll (or, if not, obvious rules violations), then there is a simple way to deal with it ourselves. DNFTT. Stop posting in that thread, and stop reading that thread. ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2016, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/defamation-etc/743754/68 "2016-01-21T17:33:08Z")
Unfortunately, not all people are in possession of a working troll detector. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2016, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/defamation-etc/743754/69 "2016-01-21T18:31:41Z")
> [@kayaker](#): > > I totally missed any extreme S&M references. > > Pics or it didn’t happen. First you have to give me that check for setting you up with all these jokes. > [@TriPolar](#): > > None of you got the hint that might not be a prostitute when you saw those pictures? I don’t know about anyone else, but I never saw the pics. I just went by the reactions in thread. People seemed concerned, then a longterm Doper took it to PMs and said something that I took as saying “It’s okay. She’s real.” I wonder if it’s the type of trolling that causes it not to trip people’s trolldar. There’s no money involved, and no one is making people angry or anything. So there’s much less of a downside for being tricked. Sure, ban them. We don’t need them lying and misleading people. But I find it hard to get angry at these guys. And, coming from me, that’s saying a lot. ---
**Author:** ![spinky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/59ef9b/32.png) [@spinky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/spinky)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2016, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/defamation-etc/743754/70 "2016-01-21T18:35:04Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > The pic is recognizable. That’s not quit the same thing as the person in the pic being recognizable. Nobody looked at that picture and immediately went, “Hey, that’s Stephanie Smith!” One person vaguely thought they’d seen it before, but couldn’t connect a name to it. Another person was able to find the original picture using image search software. That’s a pretty far cry from someone running into the woman on the street, or in a professional setting, and assuming they’re a prostitute because they saw that thread on the SDMB. The mod response to this is really interesting. It’s pretty obvious someone is telling a phony story and using a minor celebrity’s likeness to do it. Busted, right? No, let’s bend over backwards to make excuses for the troll instead of just shutting it down. You can pretend that it was a total fluke that anybody recognized the picture, but a number of people took one look at that picture and said, “yeah, right, this looks like a professional bikini model or something, I wonder who it really is.” And from there it took two seconds to find the real source. It smelled like bullshit, it was proven to be bullshit, and now the mod response is “but, but … you can hardly even tell it’s bullshit!” :rolleyes: And somehow it’s no big deal to associate a celebrity’s image with a story about prostitution, but a post saying “there’s no way in hell that’s [celebrity name]” ends up having a mod come back and edit the name out. Good priorities, dudes. In closing, I just want to re-quote this one as the most perfect example of “mod pretending not to see the problem”: > [@Colibri](#): > > The picture was neither identified, nor easily identifiable. :smack: ---
**Author:** ![LH75](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lh75/32/4438_2.png) [@LH75](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LH75)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2016, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/defamation-etc/743754/71 "2016-01-21T18:53:01Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > First you have to give me that check for setting you up with all these jokes. > > I don’t know about anyone else, but I never saw the pics. I just went by the reactions in thread. People seemed concerned, then a longterm Doper took it to PMs and said something that I took as saying “It’s okay. She’s real.” > > I wonder if it’s the type of trolling that causes it not to trip people’s trolldar. There’s no money involved, and no one is making people angry or anything. So there’s much less of a downside for being tricked. > > Sure, ban them. We don’t need them lying and misleading people. But I find it hard to get angry at these guys. And, coming from me, that’s saying a lot. The longer I read the thread, the more it read like our previous poster umkay’s thread. I did not judge by the picture. Th thread just rang less true as it went on. ---
**Author:** ![RyanRye](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c2a13f/32.png) [@RyanRye](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RyanRye)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2016, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/defamation-etc/743754/72 "2016-01-21T19:00:23Z")
I came across that post randomly while researching escorts, yeah i know, guilty. And i read the whole thing through and this post all the way through. I read so much bullshit that i decided to make an account. I don’t care if you will accuse me of trolling or whatever, in fact i couldn’t give a shit, not going to post back on here anyway… but the way you guys handled this was absolutely ridiculous. This person posted a post on here and it seems somewhere else as well. She posted a picture (i have seen the later picture someone else posted, guessing is the same one) She took the picture out and got all freaky, even hinting to this Stephanie girl it was later revealed to of been. Then someone goes full blown nuclear on here and all hell breaks loose including the banning/closing of the thread. Ok, here is my two cents: First, who even says this Stephanie girl is famous. I can’t really see what is famous about here except the fact that she is a fitness bimbo that posts shit online and craves attention, in a way kind of to the way this KE person did. Second, the answers were NOT far fetched. No six some or other crazy stuff, in fact i tend to believe the answers where believable (although the person might not be) Third, some douche goes all out on here even posting an “alleged” pm received from her which if true only confirms that she might be one and the same person. Fourth, who the fuck would be an escort if not a 5th grade model who has a face of a interstate stripper. Fifth, she mentioned 2 continents, she mentioned something about Germany and this person whose pictures where stolen is kind of from the area. Sixth, what would be so fucking hard to believe about an escort talking about herself. There are over 1000 backpage ads in my neighborhood, would it be far fetched one of them wants to be the next “secret diary” type? And finally, i can see why forums are populated by nerds, so much fucking drama over nothing. I was also reading another thread a few years back on here bout some dude who was going to escorts and brothels… What makes the two persons any different? That dudes stories seem at least as implausible as KEs. PS: Most likely this KE is an old fat man who can’t even jerk it anymore. Everyone has a bullshit meter and should use it! My point is you guys are much creepier than the poster! Fat old man with a gut and all! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2016, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/defamation-etc/743754/73 "2016-01-21T19:38:49Z")
> [@RyanRye](#): > > My point is you guys are much creepier than the poster! Fat old man with a gut and all! 😃 😃 If you choose to stick around, you’ll see that it can be fun to watch train wrecks, even if you aren’t all that into trains to begin with. ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2016, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/defamation-etc/743754/74 "2016-01-21T19:59:32Z")
> [@kayaker](#): > > 😃 > > If you choose to stick around, you’ll see that it can be fun to watch train wrecks, even if you aren’t all that into trains to begin with. I think it’s pretty east to put 2 and 2 together and figure out the backstory to that account. ---
**Author:** ![joyfool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/df788c/32.png) [@joyfool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joyfool)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2016, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/defamation-etc/743754/75 "2016-01-21T20:03:26Z")
> [@RyanRye](#): > > I came across that post randomly while researching escorts, yeah i know, guilty. > And i read the whole thing through and this post all the way through. > I read so much bullshit that i decided to make an account. > I don’t care if you will accuse me of trolling or whatever, in fact i couldn’t give a shit, not going to post back on here anyway… but the way you guys handled this was absolutely ridiculous. > > This person posted a post on here and it seems somewhere else as well. She posted a picture (i have seen the later picture someone else posted, guessing is the same one) She took the picture out and got all freaky, even hinting to this Stephanie girl it was later revealed to of been. Then someone goes full blown nuclear on here and all hell breaks loose including the banning/closing of the thread. > Ok, here is my two cents: > First, who even says this Stephanie girl is famous. I can’t really see what is famous about here except the fact that she is a fitness bimbo that posts shit online and craves attention, in a way kind of to the way this KE person did. > > Second, the answers were NOT far fetched. No six some or other crazy stuff, in fact i tend to believe the answers where believable (although the person might not be) > > Third, some douche goes all out on here even posting an “alleged” pm received from her which if true only confirms that she might be one and the same person. > > Fourth, who the fuck would be an escort if not a 5th grade model who has a face of a interstate stripper. > > Fifth, she mentioned 2 continents, she mentioned something about Germany and this person whose pictures where stolen is kind of from the area. > > Sixth, what would be so fucking hard to believe about an escort talking about herself. There are over 1000 backpage ads in my neighborhood, would it be far fetched one of them wants to be the next “secret diary” type? > And finally, i can see why forums are populated by nerds, so much fucking drama over nothing. I was also reading another thread a few years back on here bout some dude who was going to escorts and brothels… What makes the two persons any different? That dudes stories seem at least as implausible as KEs. > > PS: Most likely this KE is an old fat man who can’t even jerk it anymore. Everyone has a bullshit meter and should use it! > > My point is you guys are much creepier than the poster! Fat old man with a gut and all! 😃 I don’t think I’ve ever done this in my life, but LOL. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2016, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/defamation-etc/743754/76 "2016-01-21T20:17:09Z")
> [@RyanRye](#): > > I came across that post randomly while researching escorts, yeah i know, guilty. > And i read the whole thing through and this post all the way through. > I read so much bullshit that i decided to make an account. > I don’t care if you will accuse me of trolling or whatever, in fact i couldn’t give a shit, not going to post back on here anyway… but the way you guys handled this was absolutely ridiculous. > > This person posted a post on here and it seems somewhere else as well. She posted a picture (i have seen the later picture someone else posted, guessing is the same one) She took the picture out and got all freaky, even hinting to this Stephanie girl it was later revealed to of been. Then someone goes full blown nuclear on here and all hell breaks loose including the banning/closing of the thread. > Ok, here is my two cents: > First, who even says this Stephanie girl is famous. I can’t really see what is famous about here except the fact that she is a fitness bimbo that posts shit online and craves attention, in a way kind of to the way this KE person did. > > Second, the answers were NOT far fetched. No six some or other crazy stuff, in fact i tend to believe the answers where believable (although the person might not be) > > Third, some douche goes all out on here even posting an “alleged” pm received from her which if true only confirms that she might be one and the same person. > > Fourth, who the fuck would be an escort if not a 5th grade model who has a face of a interstate stripper. > > Fifth, she mentioned 2 continents, she mentioned something about Germany and this person whose pictures where stolen is kind of from the area. > > Sixth, what would be so fucking hard to believe about an escort talking about herself. There are over 1000 backpage ads in my neighborhood, would it be far fetched one of them wants to be the next “secret diary” type? > And finally, i can see why forums are populated by nerds, so much fucking drama over nothing. I was also reading another thread a few years back on here bout some dude who was going to escorts and brothels… What makes the two persons any different? That dudes stories seem at least as implausible as KEs. > > PS: Most likely this KE is an old fat man who can’t even jerk it anymore. Everyone has a bullshit meter and should use it! > > My point is you guys are much creepier than the poster! Fat old man with a gut and all! 😃 One way to detect trolls is that they attempt to do something idiosyncratic in the way that they type to make them appear to be unique. Of course they often screw up and forget on occasion. If i were to troll, i would just type in my normal way. Less obvious. ---
**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2016, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/defamation-etc/743754/77 "2016-01-21T20:23:32Z")
> [@faithfool](#): > > I don’t think I’ve ever done this in my life, but LOL. U dont think that there is a small chance that the guy with 1 post might have been the troll? ---
**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2016, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/defamation-etc/743754/78 "2016-01-21T20:25:33Z")
Much like arsonists, they often return to the scene of the crime. ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2016, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/defamation-etc/743754/79 "2016-01-21T20:27:53Z")
> [@GrandWino](#): > > Much like arsonists, they often return to the scene of the crime. I’m pretty sure Dick Tracy’s Crime Stoppers Handbook said all criminals do that. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2016, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/defamation-etc/743754/80 "2016-01-21T20:30:12Z")
> [@madsircool](#): > > U dont think that there is a small chance that the guy with 1 post might have been the troll? But LOLing a troll is totally copacetic. Been/done. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/defamation-etc/743754.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/defamation-etc/743754.md?page=5)