# Defend marriage!  ONE MAN - ONE WOMAN

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/defend-marriage-one-man-one-woman/472036>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [November 10, 2008, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/defend-marriage-one-man-one-woman/472036 "2008-11-10T14:59:52Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Musicat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/musicat/32/20189_2.png) [@Musicat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Musicat)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2008, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/defend-marriage-one-man-one-woman/472036/41 "2008-11-11T00:37:44Z")

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> [@Mangetout](#):
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> Marriage is sacred when two people entering into marriage consider it sacred and make it so. It’s not sacred in bulk, by default. How could it be?

I wish you would quit using logic. It’s throwing off this discussion and is probably sinful.

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**Author:** ![j666](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de0a6/32.png) [@j666](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/j666)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2008, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/defend-marriage-one-man-one-woman/472036/42 "2008-11-11T00:53:42Z")

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> [@Cisco](#):
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> I just mean, if you’re going to take the marriage is sacred, blah blah blah angle, then why not limit everyone to 2 marriages? If they want to get “married” again after that, they can call it a domestic partnership or whatever. … If you’re going to get divorced every 5 or 10 years then you’re not married; you’re dating. .

I’d give them three; one marriage on the rebound in the middle. (I’m serious; three is my personal ‘you just don’t know what marriage is’, unless all spouses over two have died; and if they haven’t die in a war zone on another continent, I will have evil suspicions.)

Actually, I think the state should recognize only civil unions, and leave marriage to the churches. That should shut everyone up.

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**Author:** ![Kevbo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e47774/32.png) [@Kevbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kevbo)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2008, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/defend-marriage-one-man-one-woman/472036/43 "2008-11-11T02:34:50Z")

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Saying that allowing homo marraige degrades hetero marraige is like saying that allowing me to ride my motorcycle makes your car slower.

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**Author:** ![Illuminatiprimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/illuminatiprimus/32/11520_2.png) [@Illuminatiprimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Illuminatiprimus)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2008, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/defend-marriage-one-man-one-woman/472036/44 "2008-11-11T03:17:11Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> I just find it so sad that immediately after same-sex marriage was deemed to be legal in Canada, all of the hetero marriages stopped being meaningful, and our society collapsed.
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> I mean, after those Godless gay people were given the same rights as the rest of us “normal” people, I turned to my wife and said, “honey, I guess it’s over between us now.” She agreed that our marriage was, as of that point, merely a cheap sham.
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> How cruel of those gays to destroy us in that way!

It’s the same in Spain. I hear that people eat their own babies and worship the blood god Khorne there now.

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**Author:** ![Convict](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ad7895/32.png) [@Convict](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Convict)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2008, 5:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/defend-marriage-one-man-one-woman/472036/45 "2008-11-11T05:29:16Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> I think that to remain consistent with biblical teachings divorce could still be allowed in rare circumstances, but divorced people could **never** be allowed to remarry or live in a relationship with a partner.

If you were to make a law based on this argument it would be unconstitutional since it would be an establishment of religion by the government.

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> Seriously, I think it would be great if organizations put a lot of effort into this - get it out there in the public sphere, issue quotes from Jesus, and especially find prominent divorced (remarried) homophobes and set up full time pickets in front of their houses, places of business and churches.

Fred Phelps, is that you?

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> \*\*JESUS himself \*\*directly called people who divorce and remarry adulterers. Adulterers do not enter the kingdom of heaven. It is very clearly stated in the bible in black and white.

Not everyone believes in the Bible. If I want to get divorced I will–I don’t care what you, Jesus or some silly book says.

On preview–have I been whooshed?

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**Author:** ![Cider\_Depot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Cider\_Depot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cider_Depot)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2008, 5:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/defend-marriage-one-man-one-woman/472036/46 "2008-11-11T05:50:30Z")

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What if I had a gender reassignment surgery, got married, then underwent a gender reassignment reversal?

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**Author:** ![jellyblue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e480ec/32.png) [@jellyblue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jellyblue)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2008, 6:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/defend-marriage-one-man-one-woman/472036/47 "2008-11-11T06:08:59Z")

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F. Masturbation can and should be treated as adultery.

I’m loving this thread.  
–Jellyblue, still married for the moment

> [@Annie-Xmas](#):
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> E. If it is determined that either person in the marriage is doing anything to prevent conception; i.e. using contraceptives or not having normal sexual relations.

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**Author:** ![parthenokinesis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/cc9497/32.png) [@parthenokinesis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/parthenokinesis)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2008, 11:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/defend-marriage-one-man-one-woman/472036/48 "2008-11-11T11:39:02Z")

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> [@Kevbo](#):
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> Saying that allowing homo marraige degrades hetero marraige is like saying that allowing me to ride my motorcycle makes your car slower.

You’ll have to admit your homo marriages are a menace to traffic and raise everyones insurance rates. Zipping in and out of lanes like that, and for Pete’s sake put on a damn helmet. And when the rains come, you wish you had a nice safe hetro marriage like me, with seat warmers and anti lock brakes, you’ll see.

mutter mutter crotch rocket mutter mutter

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**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2008, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/defend-marriage-one-man-one-woman/472036/49 "2008-11-11T13:26:33Z")

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Any couple who doesn’t let the woman stay home to raise the children is abnormal and the children should immediately be put in foster care.

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**Author:** ![newcrasher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b3f665/32.png) [@newcrasher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/newcrasher)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2008, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/defend-marriage-one-man-one-woman/472036/50 "2008-11-11T13:28:41Z")

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> [@jellyblue](#):
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> F. Masturbation can and should be treated as adultery.
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> I’m loving this thread.  
> –Jellyblue, still married for the moment

After you have been unfaithful over and over?  
😃

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**Author:** ![Indistinguishable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/90ced4/32.png) [@Indistinguishable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Indistinguishable)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2008, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/defend-marriage-one-man-one-woman/472036/51 "2008-11-11T13:29:11Z")

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It was Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve. Nor John and Katie, nor Chris and Jennifer. Thus, we should limit marriage only to couples whose names are Adam and Eve.

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**Author:** ![Cheesesteak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheesesteak/32/3694_2.png) [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2008, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/defend-marriage-one-man-one-woman/472036/52 "2008-11-11T13:49:16Z")

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> [@Kevbo](#):
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> Saying that allowing homo marraige degrades hetero marraige is like saying that allowing me to ride my motorcycle makes your car slower.

Except that you riding your motorcycle actually does impact car drivers in some, admittedly miniscule, way. Gay marriage has, as far as I can tell, exactly zero impact on straight marriages.

To put it another way, if California declared motorcycles illegal, I’d bet that drivers would notice. I defy any married person to tell me how they personally noticed a change in their lives thanks to gay marriages being declared illegal.

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**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2008, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/defend-marriage-one-man-one-woman/472036/53 "2008-11-11T14:15:35Z")

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No debate.

Not enough hostility for the BBQ Pit.

Off to IMHO.

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**Author:** ![don\_t\_ask](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e68b1a/32.png) [@don\_t\_ask](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/don_t_ask)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2008, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/defend-marriage-one-man-one-woman/472036/54 "2008-11-11T14:31:00Z")

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Wow do you guys really think this is fighting ignorance?

Let me tell you, sometimes its hard to be a woman, giving all your love to just one man. You can be sure that you’ll have bad times and he’ll have good times, doing things that you don’t understand.

So you must stand by your man, give him two arms to cling to and something warm to come to when nights are cold and lonely. Stand by your man and tell all the world you love him, keep giving all the love you can.

Stand by your man

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2008, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/defend-marriage-one-man-one-woman/472036/55 "2008-11-11T14:58:54Z")

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You guys are coming at this all wrong. Now that same-sex marriage has been outlawed, we have a precedent. Now we can move forward to outlawing marriage altogether.

Why should the gays get all the breaks?

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**Author:** ![Natty\_Bumppo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/e480ec/32.png) [@Natty\_Bumppo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Natty_Bumppo)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2008, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/defend-marriage-one-man-one-woman/472036/56 "2008-11-11T15:07:33Z")

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Would anyone here mind if I married my grandmother? She’s 99 and has lots of money. It would be a lot easier than probate, and my siblings don’t deserve a dime. If we have to, we could try to have kids. Who knows?

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**Author:** ![newcrasher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b3f665/32.png) [@newcrasher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/newcrasher)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2008, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/defend-marriage-one-man-one-woman/472036/57 "2008-11-11T15:12:29Z")

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SHould have been quoting above post^^^

OK if you are a man.

No if you are a woman.

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**Author:** ![Natty\_Bumppo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/e480ec/32.png) [@Natty\_Bumppo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Natty_Bumppo)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2008, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/defend-marriage-one-man-one-woman/472036/58 "2008-11-11T15:19:17Z")

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> [@newcrasher](#):
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> SHould have been quoting above post^^^
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> OK if you are a man.
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> No if you are a woman.

Good point. I should have mentioned that part. But, I did say we’d try to have kids. We want a real marriage, after all. I just love my grandma. (She’s hot.)

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**Author:** ![Hampshire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hampshire/32/4887_2.png) [@Hampshire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hampshire)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2008, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/defend-marriage-one-man-one-woman/472036/59 "2008-11-11T15:52:50Z")

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Rules for marriage in America:

-Must be one man, one woman.  
-Age difference of no greater than 5 years, woman can not be older than the man.  
-Must be married before man reaches age of 30.  
-Must have at least 2 children (one of each sex preferable) before woman reaches age of 30. No “only childs” allowed.  
-No interracial marriages allowed.  
-Woman not allowed to work outside home once married.  
-Children not allowed to attend daycare, must be raised in-home.  
-No families allowed to live in apartments. Must have a house.  
-Family must belong to and attend a Christian church. Atheists, agnostics, or any other non-christian religion is not allowed.  
-Divorce allowed only if couple has not had children yet. Once divorced neither person allowed to re-marry ever again.

signed-  
American Family Association  
(because we know whats good for everyone)

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**Author:** ![Natty\_Bumppo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/e480ec/32.png) [@Natty\_Bumppo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Natty_Bumppo)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2008, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/defend-marriage-one-man-one-woman/472036/60 "2008-11-11T16:00:07Z")

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> [@Hampshire](#):
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> Rules for marriage in America:
> 
> -Must be one man, one woman.  
> -Age difference of no greater than 5 years, woman can not be older than the man.  
> -Must be married before man reaches age of 30.  
> -Must have at least 2 children (one of each sex preferable) before woman reaches age of 30. No “only childs” allowed.  
> -No interracial marriages allowed.  
> -Woman not allowed to work outside home once married.  
> -Children not allowed to attend daycare, must be raised in-home.  
> -No families allowed to live in apartments. Must have a house.  
> -Family must belong to and attend a Christian church. Atheists, agnostics, or any other non-christian religion is not allowed.  
> -Divorce allowed only if couple has not had children yet. Once divorced neither person allowed to re-marry ever again.
> 
> signed-  
> American Family Association  
> (because we know whats good for everyone)

Now you’re just being mean 'cause you know Grandma is a senior citizen. Get rid of the age thing, and I think we’re good. She’ll probably be dead before the kid comes to term, but it’s the thought that counts. Besides, we love each other.

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