# Defending Reeder

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/defending-reeder/314969>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [July 31, 2005, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/defending-reeder/314969 "2005-07-31T04:10:30Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2005, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/defending-reeder/314969/61 "2005-07-31T19:02:29Z")

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> [@choie](#):
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> However. Did he deserve to be banned for _this_?

> [@Coldfire](#):
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> Reeder, sit down, sit still, and listen the fuck up.
> 
> Stop it. Knock it the hell off. Quit posting a new thread every single time Bush or one of his relatives farts, sticks their tongue out, mispronounces a word that’s in the Oxford English Dictionary, dangles their genitals out the window of their corporately sponsored SUV - long story short, the very next thread I see from you that is:
> 
> ```
> * About Bush, and;
> * Not primarily about politics.
> 
> ```
> 
> … will be your last thread on these boards.

I don’t see any time limit there.

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**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2005, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/defending-reeder/314969/62 "2005-07-31T19:10:46Z")

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> [@Lute Skywatcher](#):
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> I don’t see any time limit there.

It is kinda sad that he didn’t go out on a “Bush dangles his genitals out the window” story though. Finger, thumb, whatever, who _cares_? That thread was just so _stooopid_.

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2005, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/defending-reeder/314969/63 "2005-07-31T19:32:28Z")

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> [@Squink](#):
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> It is kinda sad that he didn’t go out on a “Bush dangles his genitals out the window” story though. Finger, thumb, whatever, who _cares_? That thread was just so _stooopid_.

Which perhaps is why it was the one that triggered the banning, the one that snapped the last fraying thread of tolerance among the adminity. Not only does he blast right past the “Road closed” sign, he does it on a tricycle with a flat tire.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2005, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/defending-reeder/314969/64 "2005-07-31T19:39:05Z")

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> [@EddyTeddyFreddy](#):
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> Not only does he blast right past the “Road closed” sign, he does it on a tricycle with a flat tire.

I prefer to think of it as an HO-gauge train wreck.

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2005, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/defending-reeder/314969/65 "2005-07-31T20:04:56Z")

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> [@minty green](#):
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> Friends, Dopers, Countrymen, lend me your screens;  
> I come to bury **Reeder** , not to praise him.  
> The evil that men post lives after them;  
> The good is oft interr’d with their screennames;  
> So let it be with **Reeder**. The noble **Tuba**  
> Hath told you **Reeder** was a big time jerk.  
> Because 'twas so, it was a grievous fault;  
> And grievously hath **Reeder** answer’d it.  
> Here, under leave of **Tuba** and the rest,  
> For **Tuba** is an honorable mod,  
> So are they all, all honorable mods,  
> Come I to speak in **Reeder’s** funeral.
> 
> He was a troll, faithless and unredeemed;  
> Like **Tuba** says he was a big time jerk;  
> And **Tuba** is an honorable mod.  
> He hath brought many threads unto the Pit,  
> Whose fallout did the atmosphere inflame;  
> Did this in **Reeder** seem much jerkish?  
> When that Jenna hath cried, **Reeder** hath trolled;  
> Jerkishness is not made of clearer stuff.  
> As **Tuba** says he was a big time jerk;  
> And **Tuba** is an honorable mod.
> 
> You all did see on many occasions  
> The mods hath warned him for being an ass,  
> Which he did oft refuse; was this not jerkish?  
> Like **Tuba** says he was a big time jerk;  
> And **Tuba** is an honorable mod.
> 
> I speak not to disprove what the OP spoke,  
> But here I am to speak what I do know.  
> He was banned as a jerk, not without cause.  
> What cause requires you, then, to mourn for him?  
> O judgment, thou art fled to felched goats,  
> And **Aeschines** lost his reason! – Bear with me;  
> I have accidentally stepped on his corpse,  
> And I must pause to scrape him off my shoe.

I think I wet myself here.

😃

Regards,  
Shodan

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**Author:** ![Good\_Egg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/96bed5/32.png) [@Good\_Egg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Good_Egg)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2005, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/defending-reeder/314969/66 "2005-07-31T21:21:14Z")

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I didn’t read too many of his posts, but it looks like he had a lot of warnings. Its just that simple; he didn’t seem to want to behave.

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**Author:** ![Good\_Egg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/96bed5/32.png) [@Good\_Egg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Good_Egg)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2005, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/defending-reeder/314969/67 "2005-07-31T21:23:46Z")

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> [@Dewey Cheatem Undhow](#):
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> I love lollipops.

You can get banned for that. :wally

I’m kidding, of course.

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**Author:** ![tnetennba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tnetennba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tnetennba)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2005, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/defending-reeder/314969/68 "2005-07-31T21:53:31Z")

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> [@GIGObuster](#):
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> \*\*Reeder \*\* got warnings for posting in wrong forums for political purposes and got specific warnings about the pointless anti-Bush attacks.

Can any anti-Bush attack be pointless? Isn’t that something like “pointless kindness to animals,” or “pointless snacks for starving children”? To my mind, the worth of the thing is inherent, it lies in its existence.

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**Author:** ![Mehitabel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8797f3/32.png) [@Mehitabel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mehitabel)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2005, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/defending-reeder/314969/69 "2005-07-31T22:01:25Z")

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Some banners should not be picked up.

IJS.

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**Author:** ![Driver8](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b5a626/32.png) [@Driver8](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Driver8)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2005, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/defending-reeder/314969/70 "2005-07-31T22:01:39Z")

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> [@cricetus](#):
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> Can any anti-Bush attack be pointless? Isn’t that something like “pointless kindness to animals,” or “pointless snacks for starving children”? To my mind, the worth of the thing is inherent, it lies in its existence.

Huh? I would consider “Bush eats babies!” to be a pointless anti-Bush attack. It is almost certainly not factual and adds no value to any debate. On the other hand, I can also think of pointless kindness to animals (Happy Birthday cards every 1/7 of a year to your pet dog) and pointless snacks for starving children (celery sticks or anything else with no nutritional value).

The current admininstration creeps my out, to be perfectly honest. But I definately have seen many examples of pointless anti-Bush attacks.

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**Author:** ![minty\_green](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f6c823/32.png) [@minty\_green](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/minty_green)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2005, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/defending-reeder/314969/71 "2005-07-31T22:04:15Z")

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> [@Shodan](#):
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> I think I wet myself here.

[Reeder]

Republicans have poopypants.

[/Reeder]

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**Author:** ![BJMoose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/5fc32e/32.png) [@BJMoose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BJMoose)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2005, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/defending-reeder/314969/72 "2005-07-31T22:07:04Z")

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**Reeder** ’s antiBush obsession did him in. Remember his Pit threads? Inevitably, the discussion focused not in whatever notion appeared in the OP, but on the fact that it was just another **Reeder** cheapshot. Most folks would learn to duck and cover if so many of their threads were greeted with such derision. But not he - which makes his behavior appear to have been nearly pathological. He was, on these occasions, a jerk _par excellance_.

The only surprise about his banning is that it didn’t happen earlier.

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**Author:** ![tnetennba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tnetennba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tnetennba)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2005, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/defending-reeder/314969/73 "2005-07-31T22:09:25Z")

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> [@Driver8](#):
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> Huh? I would consider “Bush eats babies!” to be a pointless anti-Bush attack. It is almost certainly not factual and adds no value to any debate. On the other hand, I can also think of pointless kindness to animals (Happy Birthday cards every 1/7 of a year to your pet dog) and pointless snacks for starving children (celery sticks or anything else with no nutritional value).
> 
> The current admininstration creeps my out, to be perfectly honest. But I definately have seen many examples of pointless anti-Bush attacks.

Oh, fer fucks sake, man, I was joking. And thanks to your user name, I’ll be having that song going through my head.

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**Author:** ![Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d26b3c/32.png) [@Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Blue_Sky)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2005, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/defending-reeder/314969/74 "2005-07-31T22:12:18Z")

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I figured the end was near that time he pitted one of Bush’s daughters for flipping off reporters.

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**Author:** ![Driver8](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b5a626/32.png) [@Driver8](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Driver8)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2005, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/defending-reeder/314969/75 "2005-07-31T22:13:23Z")

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> [@cricetus](#):
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> Oh, fer fucks sake, man, I was joking. And thanks to your user name, I’ll be having that song going through my head.

Heh. A little too subtle for me to deal with. And at least I didn’t mention It’s the End of the World as We Know It (And I Feel Fine).

😃

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**Author:** ![duffer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duffer/32/1026_2.png) [@duffer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duffer)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2005, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/defending-reeder/314969/76 "2005-07-31T23:25:34Z")

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In case anyone misses it in ATMB, I’ll just copy and paste to save time. The sentiment applies to both forums.

‘Tis a sad day in dufferland. A sad, sad day. Rarely is there a poster of such shallowness that offers me almost a slam-dunk win in arguing something. On my way to work I felt a disturbance in the force. I couldn’t put my finger on it at the time. The grass wasn’t as green, the birds’ singing was almost muffled and I saw 2 bunnies not having sex. It was almost surreal.

I guess in the end Reeder has won. Ironically, in a roundabout way, Bush is the reason he was banned. Imagine his ire today!

Anyone know his user name at DU? Please e-mail me, I just can’t resist a good, unmoderated melt-down.

Now if you all will excuse me, I must go grab a cold one and reflect on my place in the world. I just feel so empty

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**Author:** ![tnetennba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tnetennba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tnetennba)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2005, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/defending-reeder/314969/77 "2005-08-01T00:22:23Z")

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> [@duffer](#):
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> In case anyone misses it in ATMB, I’ll just copy and paste to save time. The sentiment applies to both forums.
> 
> 'Tis a sad day in dufferland. A sad, sad day. Rarely is there a poster of such shallowness that offers me almost a slam-dunk win in arguing something.

We still have YOU, but I guess that doesn’t do you any good.

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2005, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/defending-reeder/314969/78 "2005-08-01T00:45:13Z")

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Yeh, now that **Reeder** is gone, we need a new **anti-duffer**.

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**Author:** ![Zoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/a4c791/32.png) [@Zoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoe)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2005, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/defending-reeder/314969/79 "2005-08-01T00:54:57Z")

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> [@](#):
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> At first TPTB punish for something that was purportedly wrong in itself; later they punish for disobedience.

An excellent parallel in this case, although I have no personal opinion on **Reeder’s** banning.

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**Author:** ![Kyla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/eada6e/32.png) [@Kyla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kyla)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2005, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/defending-reeder/314969/80 "2005-08-01T00:59:21Z")

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> [@cricetus](#):
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> Can any anti-Bush attack be pointless?

Yes.

Look, I am a liberal. I loathe Bush almost as much as **Reeder** does. But when you start to attack someone for such bullshit reasons, you lose credibility. I dislike Bush because he got our country into a messy, unwinnable war for no apparent reason and thinks that Margaret Atwood’s Gilead is a model government (assuming he’s literate enough to read _The Handmaid’s Tale_). I don’t dislike him because his daughter stuck her goddamn tongue out at someone or he _maybe_ flipped someone off. **Reeder** is a total fucking loony and the political equivalent to the boy who cried wolf. Bash Bush for something moronic, no one will take you seriously when he does something actually worth getting angry over.

(I admit I chortled a little when I realized my pissing him off in his last thread might have been what did him in.)

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