# Define "Politically Correct" + Give 2 examples in your life worth raging at **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 15, 2018, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/define-politically-correct-give-2-examples-in-your-life-worth-raging-at/822993 "2018-10-15T18:03:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2018, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/define-politically-correct-give-2-examples-in-your-life-worth-raging-at/822993/1 "2018-10-15T18:03:58Z")
I don’t worry about PC. But lots of people do. These days I am being reminded that I need to worry about whole rafts of people who care a lot, and are guided in their political lives by this thing. So what is it? And how did your heinie get all bruised? ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2018, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/define-politically-correct-give-2-examples-in-your-life-worth-raging-at/822993/2 "2018-10-15T18:09:07Z")
PC is denying reality and attempting to silence others in order to advance an ideological orthodoxy. Worth raging at? Since I do and say what I want anyways I’m not sure if rage is the right verb. But I do find many aspects troubling such as left wing college students and their inane protests about free speech being hate speech or telling others what sort of food they can cook or costumes they can wear. Or even on this board with the hand wringing about plucking an eyebrow. At some point, outrage becomes farcical. ---
**Author:** ![BrotherCadfael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@BrotherCadfael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrotherCadfael)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2018, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/define-politically-correct-give-2-examples-in-your-life-worth-raging-at/822993/3 "2018-10-15T18:18:48Z")
I have previously observed that “Political Correctness” is NOT saying you shouldn’t use the term “fruitcake” to describe someone of other than standard mental processes. We can all agree on that. “Political Correctness” is saying that, because “fruitcake” has been used that way in the past, it should not today be used to describe a candied confection containing dried fruit and nuts. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2018, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/define-politically-correct-give-2-examples-in-your-life-worth-raging-at/822993/4 "2018-10-15T18:21:18Z")
> [@BrotherCadfael](#): > > “Political Correctness” is saying that, because “fruitcake” has been used that way in the past, it should not today be used to describe a candied confection containing dried fruit and nuts. Got any real life examples? ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2018, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/define-politically-correct-give-2-examples-in-your-life-worth-raging-at/822993/5 "2018-10-15T18:23:04Z")
“Political Correctness” is what assholes claim is the reason they are being labeled as “assholes”. In reality, 95% of the time, they are being labeled “assholes” because they are acting in an “assholish” way, rather than because of “Political Correctness”. ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2018, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/define-politically-correct-give-2-examples-in-your-life-worth-raging-at/822993/6 "2018-10-15T18:28:49Z")
> [@Babale](#): > > “Political Correctness” is what assholes claim is the reason they are being labeled as “assholes”. In reality, 95% of the time, they are being labeled “assholes” because they are acting in an “assholish” way, rather than because of “Political Correctness”. Mmhmm… women forced to close a burrito shop because of PC-ness was them actually being “assholes.” Which in itself is, at this point, a cliched and disingenuous label used far too often as a tool of delegitimization. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2018, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/define-politically-correct-give-2-examples-in-your-life-worth-raging-at/822993/7 "2018-10-15T18:30:35Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > \*\*PC is denying reality and attempting to silence others in order to advance an ideological orthodoxy. > \*\* > Worth raging at? Since I do and say what I want anyways I’m not sure if rage is the right verb. But I do find many aspects troubling such as left wing college students and their inane protests about free speech being hate speech or telling others what sort of food they can cook or costumes they can wear. Or even on this board with the hand wringing about plucking an eyebrow. At some point, outrage becomes farcical. Like what happened to the Dixie Chicks? [PC, it’s not just for the Left.](https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Conservative_correctness) ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2018, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/define-politically-correct-give-2-examples-in-your-life-worth-raging-at/822993/8 "2018-10-15T18:33:53Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > Like what happened to the Dixie Chicks? > [PC, it’s not just for the Left.](https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Conservative_correctness) Or Colin Kaepernick. You are definitely correct and I’m not opposed to admitting it. ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2018, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/define-politically-correct-give-2-examples-in-your-life-worth-raging-at/822993/9 "2018-10-15T18:37:54Z")
Donald Trump is not PC…he “tell’s it like it is.” I don’t know if that helps with coming up with a definition, but it helps me decide that being PC is better than not being. Who wants to look like the jackass braying from the White House? ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2018, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/define-politically-correct-give-2-examples-in-your-life-worth-raging-at/822993/10 "2018-10-15T18:41:14Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > Mmhmm… women forced to close a burrito shop because of PC-ness was them actually being “assholes.” Which in itself is, at this point, a cliched and disingenuous label used far too often as a tool of delegitimization. Am I supposed to know what you’re talking about? ---
**Author:** ![The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_stainless_steel_rat/32/5727_2.png) [@The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Stainless_Steel_Rat)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2018, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/define-politically-correct-give-2-examples-in-your-life-worth-raging-at/822993/11 "2018-10-15T18:48:24Z")
> [@Babale](#): > > Am I supposed to know what you’re talking about? I suspect ol’ 8 arms was speaking of this: [Portland Burrito Cart Closes After Owners Are Accused Of Cultural Appropriation | HuffPost Voices](https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/portland-burrito-cart-closes-after-owners-are-accused-of-cultural-appropriation_us_5926ef7ee4b062f96a348181) Press on. ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2018, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/define-politically-correct-give-2-examples-in-your-life-worth-raging-at/822993/12 "2018-10-15T18:49:02Z")
> [@Babale](#): > > Am I supposed to know what you’re talking about? Maybe not. My apologies. > **[Perspective | Should white chefs sell burritos? A Portland food cart’s...](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/food/wp/2017/05/26/should-white-chefs-sell-burritos-a-portland-restaurants-revealing-controversy/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.66c37c072eb2)** > > As the Internet forces a business to close, where is the line between cultural appropriation and ambassadorship? Hopefully the Washington Post is not a bad source. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2018, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/define-politically-correct-give-2-examples-in-your-life-worth-raging-at/822993/13 "2018-10-15T18:56:45Z")
> [@Babale](#): > > “Political Correctness” is what assholes claim is the reason they are being labeled as “assholes”. In reality, 95% of the time, they are being labeled “assholes” because they are acting in an “assholish” way, rather than because of “Political Correctness”. I agree with this and the percentage is about right. 5% of the time it does seem to be an accurate charge but that’s not very often. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2018, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/define-politically-correct-give-2-examples-in-your-life-worth-raging-at/822993/14 "2018-10-15T19:02:23Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > Maybe not. My apologies. > > [https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/food/wp/2017/05/26/should-white-chefs-sell-burritos-a-portland-restaurants-revealing-controversy/?noredirect=on&utm\_term=.66c37c072eb2](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/food/wp/2017/05/26/should-white-chefs-sell-burritos-a-portland-restaurants-revealing-controversy/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.66c37c072eb2) > > Hopefully the Washington Post is not a bad source. That’s the 5% of the time when assholes label non-asshole people as racist for no good cause. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2018, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/define-politically-correct-give-2-examples-in-your-life-worth-raging-at/822993/15 "2018-10-15T19:11:47Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > PC is denying reality and attempting to silence others in order to advance an ideological orthodoxy. [Totally](https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2018/sep/05/donald-trump/donald-trump-inaccurately-describes-libel-law/) > [@Trump](#): > > Someone can write an article or book, totally make up stories and form a picture of a person that is literally the exact opposite of the fact, and get away with it without retribution or cost. Don’t know why Washington politicians don’t change libel laws? [Stupid politically correct people on campus!](https://www.cnn.com/2018/10/14/politics/perdue-grabs-students-phone/index.html) > [@](#): > > Georgia Republican Sen. David Perdue grabbed a Georgia Tech student’s phone on Saturday as the student filmed him while trying to ask a question about the state’s voter identification policies. [More deplatforming by campus radicals](https://alumni.unc.edu/news/bog-votes-to-shut-down-uncs-poverty-center/) > [@](#): > > The proposed closing of UNC’s Center on Poverty, Work and Opportunity by the UNC System Board of Governors — which drew one of the broadest and loudest protests from the Chapel Hill campus of any issue in years — became reality on Feb. 27 as the board voted unanimously to require the University to shut the center down by Sept. 1. [They’ve taken over governments with their PC shenanigans!](https://abcnews.go.com/US/north-carolina-bans-latest-science-rising-sea-level/story?id=16913782) > [@](#): > > A new law in North Carolina will ban the state from basing coastal policies on the latest scientific predictions of how much the sea level will rise, prompting environmentalists to accuse the state of disrespecting climate science. I understand why conservatives are so concerned about the threat of leftwing political correctness. How dare liberals steal their schtick! ---
**Author:** ![steatopygia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steatopygia/32/3132_2.png) [@steatopygia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steatopygia)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2018, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/define-politically-correct-give-2-examples-in-your-life-worth-raging-at/822993/16 "2018-10-15T19:17:08Z")
> [@Babale](#): > > “Political Correctness” is what assholes claim is the reason they are being labeled as “assholes”. In reality, 95% of the time, they are being labeled “assholes” because they are acting in an “assholish” way, rather than because of “Political Correctness”. This^ > [@wguy123](#): > > Donald Trump is not PC…he “tell’s it like it is.” > > I don’t know if that helps with coming up with a definition, but it helps me decide that being PC is better than not being. Who wants to look like the jackass braying from the White House? And this^ > [@octopus](#): > > Mmhmm… women forced to close a burrito shop because of PC-ness was them actually being “assholes.” Which in itself is, at this point, a cliched and disingenuous label used far too often as a tool of delegitimization. Not this, this is a story about cultural appropriation. Why would you pick this as an example? And couldn’t you have thrown the word “cuck” into your post? Sad! ---
**Author:** ![Wolf333](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolf333/32/3460_2.png) [@Wolf333](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wolf333)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2018, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/define-politically-correct-give-2-examples-in-your-life-worth-raging-at/822993/17 "2018-10-15T19:23:36Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > Like what happened to the Dixie Chicks? > > [PC, it’s not just for the Left.](https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Conservative_correctness) Or when JC Penney was boycotted because they hired Ellen as spokesperson. Or when Kuerig was boycotted because they pulled their ads from Hannity? Or that whole war on Christmas thing? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![Scylla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@Scylla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scylla)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2018, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/define-politically-correct-give-2-examples-in-your-life-worth-raging-at/822993/18 "2018-10-15T19:33:57Z")
I would define PC, as current standards of polite discourse as applied to social groups. It can be picayune and annoying. I have yet to suffer any catastrophic trauma as a result of this social plague. I can make up new insults real fast. FWIW, I think it’s the wrong approach. When a word is made to seem evil, bad, or outlawed you give it and the concept behind it power. ---
**Author:** ![WillFarnaby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/willfarnaby/32/514_2.png) [@WillFarnaby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WillFarnaby)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2018, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/define-politically-correct-give-2-examples-in-your-life-worth-raging-at/822993/19 "2018-10-15T19:34:39Z")
PC is enforcement of social norms through shaming for holding individuals accountable for their actions. Left: Race pity/denial of agency based on skin color or ethnicity Right and left: Military worship ---
**Author:** ![guizot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guizot/32/3636_2.png) [@guizot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/guizot)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2018, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/define-politically-correct-give-2-examples-in-your-life-worth-raging-at/822993/20 "2018-10-15T20:18:25Z")
The term is completely bankrupted by _specious usage_, and now is _ **meaningless** _. It shouldn’t be used at all anymore. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/define-politically-correct-give-2-examples-in-your-life-worth-raging-at/822993.md?page=2)