# Defining "woke"

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**Created:** [March 15, 2023, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/defining-woke/981220 "2023-03-15T14:43:44Z")\
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**Author:** ![Max\_S](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/46a35a/32.png) [@Max\_S](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_S)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2023, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/defining-woke/981220/377 "2023-03-21T19:57:40Z")

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If it helps, consider this analogy.

You, “Vegan pizza is a smart idea.”  
Conservative, “Vegan pizza is a **stupid** idea.”

Is one of you necessarily lying? Of course not. There’s a difference of opinion which may or may not be justified. Vegan pizza is neither objectively smart nor objectively stupid because those terms are subjective by definition; the truth of both statements is therefore subjective.

Woke as a pejorative doesn’t mean stupid, but it is subjective in the same way that stupid and smart are.

~Max

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