# DeJoy accused of campaign finance fraud

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dejoy-accused-of-campaign-finance-fraud/919964>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [September 6, 2020, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dejoy-accused-of-campaign-finance-fraud/919964 "2020-09-06T20:25:52Z")\
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**Author:** ![ricksummon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ricksummon/32/3333_2.png) [@ricksummon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ricksummon)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2020, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dejoy-accused-of-campaign-finance-fraud/919964/1 "2020-09-06T20:25:52Z")

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A [Washington Post article](https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/louis-dejoy-campaign-contributions/2020/09/06/1187bc2c-e3fe-11ea-8181-606e603bb1c4_story.html) accuses Postmaster DeJoy of reimbursing his employees for campaign contributions as a way of getting around campaign finance laws.

While the _federal_ statute of limitations seems to have expired, the North Carolina _state_ laws for this offense don’t _have_ a statute of limitations. 😁

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**Author:** ![DeadTreasSecretaries](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/deadtreassecretaries/32/4817_2.png) [@DeadTreasSecretaries](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DeadTreasSecretaries)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2020, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dejoy-accused-of-campaign-finance-fraud/919964/2 "2020-09-06T20:36:32Z")

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Does this mean he perjured himself when he testified to congress?

(Let’s just imagine that we live in a world where that would ever get enforced)

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2020, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dejoy-accused-of-campaign-finance-fraud/919964/3 "2020-09-06T20:43:21Z")

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> [@ricksummon](#):
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> While the _federal_ statute of limitations seems to have expired, the North Carolina _state_ laws for this offense don’t _have_ a statute of limitations.

Do we have any indication that investigators and prosecutors in North Carolina give a shit?

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**Author:** ![ricksummon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ricksummon/32/3333_2.png) [@ricksummon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ricksummon)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2020, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dejoy-accused-of-campaign-finance-fraud/919964/4 "2020-09-06T20:59:06Z")

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Well… the NC attorney general is a [Democrat.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josh_Stein)

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**Author:** ![ricksummon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ricksummon/32/3333_2.png) [@ricksummon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ricksummon)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2020, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dejoy-accused-of-campaign-finance-fraud/919964/5 "2020-09-07T01:35:15Z")

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In fact, he’s already [looking into it.](https://www.wral.com/nc-attorney-general-calls-for-investigation-into-us-postmaster-for-alleged-campaign-contribution-fraud/19273471/)

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**Author:** ![Hari\_Seldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hari_seldon/32/5173_2.png) [@Hari\_Seldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hari_Seldon)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2020, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dejoy-accused-of-campaign-finance-fraud/919964/6 "2020-09-07T16:41:07Z")

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Hate to be cynical about this, but is **anyone** ever prosecuted for violating campaign finance laws?

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**Author:** ![Icarus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/icarus/32/72_2.png) [@Icarus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Icarus)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2020, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dejoy-accused-of-campaign-finance-fraud/919964/7 "2020-09-07T17:08:52Z")

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[Wikipedia lists 13](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:American_people_convicted_of_campaign_finance_violations)

Including noted Right-Wing commentator Dinesh D’Souza, (apparently still able to get his face on TV, because folks on the right are very forgiving.) And Duncan Hunter, US Congressman.

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**Author:** ![friedo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8edcca/32.png) [@friedo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/friedo)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2020, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dejoy-accused-of-campaign-finance-fraud/919964/8 "2020-09-07T18:06:58Z")

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> [@Hari\_Seldon](#):
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> Hate to be cynical about this, but is **anyone** ever prosecuted for violating campaign finance laws?

Perhaps you’ve heard of Michael Cohen.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2020, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dejoy-accused-of-campaign-finance-fraud/919964/9 "2020-09-07T18:23:00Z")

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I will say that in browsing around a few internet news aggregator sites, the story does seem to have legs, for now.

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**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2020, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dejoy-accused-of-campaign-finance-fraud/919964/10 "2020-09-07T20:02:39Z")

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> [@Hari\_Seldon](#):
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> Hate to be cynical about this, but is **anyone** ever prosecuted for violating campaign finance laws?

John Edwards went to trial but wasn’t convicted. Michael Cohen went to prison.

The real risk is the democrats are too tepid to allow investigations and the gop just pardon them once they win the governorship anyway.

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**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2020, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dejoy-accused-of-campaign-finance-fraud/919964/11 "2020-09-07T20:32:06Z")

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> [@Icarus](#):
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> Including noted Right-Wing commentator Dinesh D’Souza,

Who was subsequently pardoned by Trump.

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**Author:** ![Nonsuch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nonsuch/32/2922_2.png) [@Nonsuch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nonsuch)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2020, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dejoy-accused-of-campaign-finance-fraud/919964/12 "2020-09-07T20:56:32Z")

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Trump said he is [open to](https://www.politico.com/news/2020/09/07/trump-open-to-investigating-dejoy-409527) DeJoy being investigated and, if guilty, removed from his post. My take: Trump was hoping his kneecapping of the Postal Service was going to fly under the radar, and now that it hasn’t, DeJoy is no longer useful, and in fact may prove a liability. So long as the scandal doesn’t reach up to Trump (which it doesn’t appear to in this case), it’s a win for him.

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**Author:** ![Icarus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/icarus/32/72_2.png) [@Icarus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Icarus)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2020, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dejoy-accused-of-campaign-finance-fraud/919964/13 "2020-09-07T22:40:01Z")

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Yeah, I think Trump is signalling that he will dump him. The damage and confusion is already done, so it’s a “win” in that respect. But this is truly a case where it has become a distraction.

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**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2020, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dejoy-accused-of-campaign-finance-fraud/919964/14 "2020-09-09T00:31:32Z")

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I look forward to an investigation that goes nowhere, a strongly worded letter from the democrats, a refusal to arrest him for ignoring subpoenas and absolutely nothing happening.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2020, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dejoy-accused-of-campaign-finance-fraud/919964/15 "2020-09-09T00:37:19Z")

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Oh, you sound like someone who’s lived through the past few years of so-called accountability with the Trump so-called administration!

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2023, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dejoy-accused-of-campaign-finance-fraud/919964/16 "2023-03-24T00:55:29Z")

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A recent article in TIME indicates he’s been cleared of all allegations:

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> Both the Federal Election Commission and the FBI closed investigations into him related to campaign contributions, and the USPS Inspector General said he met “all applicable ethics requirements related to disclosure, recusal, and divestment” pertaining to his holdings with Postal Service contractors upon taking the job.

The full article is well worth a read:

> **[Louis DeJoy's Surprising Second Act](https://time.com/6263424/louis-dejoy-trump-election-postal-reform/)**
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> Initially cast as a Trumpian villain, Louis DeJoy is quietly delivering for the Postal Service, and Democrats

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**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2023, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dejoy-accused-of-campaign-finance-fraud/919964/17 "2023-03-24T01:12:06Z")

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I admit I was totally surprised by the positive tone of that article.

Politics is the art of compromise, in the cliche, and being able to work across party lines is the only way stuff happens. DeJoy being a Republican may indeed be the only reason the postal bill got passed.

Does that make up for his actions under Trump? The article glosses over them.

DeJoy promises more good stuff if he stays in the job. Since there’s no way of removing him, that’s the best we can hope for.

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**Author:** ![DeadTreasSecretaries](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/deadtreassecretaries/32/4817_2.png) [@DeadTreasSecretaries](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DeadTreasSecretaries)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2023, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dejoy-accused-of-campaign-finance-fraud/919964/18 "2023-03-24T04:17:33Z")

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I believe this was known a year ago:

> **[Postmaster General says he's been cleared in federal probe investigating...](https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/postmaster-general-says-hes-been-cleared-in-federal-probe-investigating-staff-campaign-contributions)**
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> Postmaster General Louis DeJoy says the Justice Department has closed without criminal charges an investigation into political fundraising activity at his former business.

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2023, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/dejoy-accused-of-campaign-finance-fraud/919964/19 "2023-03-24T16:54:47Z")

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Just updating this thread. This was the first I heard of it.
