# Delay in prosecution of Trump **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [September 15, 2021, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/delay-in-prosecution-of-trump/950708 "2021-09-15T17:47:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2021, 1:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/delay-in-prosecution-of-trump/950708/81 "2021-09-23T13:07:34Z")
> [@dolfinwriter](#): > > Gee, I wonder when there will be one of these trackers for Hillary’s crimes, or Bill’s, or Obama’s, or Biden’s? What about other characters who have committed obvious crimes and treason? George Soros? Chuck Todd? Rupert Murdoch? Ted Turner? Brad Raffensperger? Nancy Pelosi? Chuckie Schumer? Kevin McCarthy? Steve Chucri? Bill Gates? (Both of them) Jack Dorsey? Mark Zuckerberg? Sundar Pichai? Eric Swalwell? [![Imgur](https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51507591364_8b38127273_z.jpg "1024") ](https://www.flickr.com/photos/68782016@N08/51507591364/) ---
**Author:** ![dolfinwriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/779978/32.png) [@dolfinwriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dolfinwriter)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2021, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/delay-in-prosecution-of-trump/950708/82 "2021-09-23T13:21:38Z")
Caption of above image: “Mueller investigation of Trump-Russia collusion” ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2021, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/delay-in-prosecution-of-trump/950708/83 "2021-09-23T15:47:35Z")
You mean the investigation that found evidence of 140 instances of interaction between the Trump campaign and Russia? But if you’ve got any non-imaginary evidence of crimes by, say, Hillary Clinton - who, despite being the subject of multiple Republican-led investigations, remains firmly unconvicted of any crimes - do feel free to present it. ---
**Author:** ![dolfinwriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/779978/32.png) [@dolfinwriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dolfinwriter)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2021, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/delay-in-prosecution-of-trump/950708/84 "2021-09-23T16:01:04Z")
There is no evidence, hence no conviction. Hillary and the rest, however; no investigation =\> no “evidence”. This is called TDS (Trump Derangement Syndrome) We used to have a thing in this country called “presumption of innocence.” Now when it’s Trump or any conservative, it becomes “presumption of guilt.” ---
**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2021, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/delay-in-prosecution-of-trump/950708/85 "2021-09-23T16:06:47Z")
> [@dolfinwriter](#): > > Hillary and the rest, however; no investigation =\> no “evidence”. > [@dolfinwriter](#): > > We used to have a thing in this country called “presumption of innocence.” … HAHAHAHA who’s deranged about what, now? Apparently “presumption of innocence” only applies to public figures that you like. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2021, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/delay-in-prosecution-of-trump/950708/86 "2021-09-23T16:08:09Z")
> [@dolfinwriter](#): > > We used to have a thing in this country called “presumption of innocence.” how can we reconcile these two statements? > What about other characters **who have committed obvious crimes and treason**? George Soros? Chuck Todd? Rupert Murdoch? Ted Turner? Brad Raffensperger? Nancy Pelosi? Chuckie Schumer? Kevin McCarthy? Steve Chucri? Bill Gates? (Both of them) Jack Dorsey? Mark Zuckerberg? Sundar Pichai? Eric Swalwell? ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2021, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/delay-in-prosecution-of-trump/950708/87 "2021-09-23T16:09:18Z")
There’s no AOC on that list. Trumpers really are slumping with their man out of the spotlight! ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2021, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/delay-in-prosecution-of-trump/950708/88 "2021-09-23T16:21:32Z")
OK, wait a minute… Hillary Clinton _et al_ need to be investigated for their crimes, but they can’t be, because there’s no evidence because there’s no investigation. And it’s wrong to investigate Trump because the investigations keep turning up evidence of crimes. Have I got that right? ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2021, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/delay-in-prosecution-of-trump/950708/89 "2021-09-23T16:24:36Z")
Close enough. Maybe there can be some kind of specific allegation made in the first place, but that would take all of the fun out of feeling persecuted. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2021, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/delay-in-prosecution-of-trump/950708/90 "2021-09-23T16:29:40Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > that would take all of the fun out of feeling persecuted. But MESSiahs aren’t supposed to enjoy their persecutions. ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2021, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/delay-in-prosecution-of-trump/950708/91 "2021-09-23T16:35:55Z")
> [@dolfinwriter](#): > > We used to have a thing in this country called “presumption of innocence.” Now when it’s Trump or any conservative, it becomes “presumption of guilt.” Except that many of Trumps actions were committed in plain sight. It isn’t a presumption of guilt, it’s visible guilt. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2021, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/delay-in-prosecution-of-trump/950708/92 "2021-09-23T16:36:50Z")
Many are saying that this particular Messiah enjoys being pissed on. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2021, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/delay-in-prosecution-of-trump/950708/93 "2021-09-23T16:40:56Z")
> [@Peter\_Morris](#): > > Except that many of Trumps actions were committed in plain sight. It isn’t a presumption of guilt, it’s visible guilt. Hillary Clinton allegedly mishandled classified emails: “Lock her up!” Donald Trump personally handed over classified info to Russians: “Hey, look over there!” ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2021, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/delay-in-prosecution-of-trump/950708/94 "2021-09-23T16:46:37Z")
Aha! Mishandling classified emails is a crime. Treason isn’t. (When a Republican commits it.) ---
**Author:** ![dolfinwriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/779978/32.png) [@dolfinwriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dolfinwriter)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2021, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/delay-in-prosecution-of-trump/950708/95 "2021-09-23T16:46:38Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > how can we reconcile these two statements? Not without a functioning FBI and DOJ and court system–all of which have been absolutely corrupted by communists like George Soros and the Communist Chinese. Y’all need to wake up, and I don’t mean go “woke”. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2021, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/delay-in-prosecution-of-trump/950708/96 "2021-09-23T16:50:10Z")
A newsletter, do you publish one? ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2021, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/delay-in-prosecution-of-trump/950708/97 "2021-09-23T17:03:32Z")
What with you conservatives and the psychotic obsession with George Soros? There are hundreds of wealthy liberals who give tons of money to political causes, but the bogeyman is always Soros, Soros, Soros. It wouldn’t have anything to do with his long-running fight to thwart Putin and bring democracy to Russia, would it? > **[He’s 88 Years Old, And Apparently A Threat To Everything On The Right](https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/emilytamkin/soros-anti-semitism-orban-putin-trump)** > > The story of Soros the man is well known, though perhaps not quite as well known as that of Soros the myth. Of course it does, because Russia’s behind pretty much every Facebook group that spreads this stuff. People that spread this disinformation are unwitting (and witless) tools of a murderous dictator. Not the wannabe, but the real thing. ---
**Author:** ![Jane\_Elliot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jane_elliot/32/6166_2.png) [@Jane\_Elliot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jane_Elliot)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2021, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/delay-in-prosecution-of-trump/950708/98 "2021-09-23T17:08:15Z")
Thank you. I am always baffled by the George Soros = Boogieman narrative. There is never any hard evidence, only accusations with no follow-up. It drives me nuts. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2021, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/delay-in-prosecution-of-trump/950708/99 "2021-09-23T17:11:57Z")
> [@dolfinwriter](#): > > Not without a functioning FBI and DOJ and court system–all of which have been absolutely corrupted by communists like George Soros and the Communist Chinese. What makes Russian communism more appealing than Chinese communism to you? ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2021, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/delay-in-prosecution-of-trump/950708/100 "2021-09-23T17:17:23Z")
Moderating: > [@dolfinwriter](#): > > Gee, I wonder when there will be one of these trackers for Hillary’s crimes, or Bill’s, or Obama’s, or Biden’s? What about other characters who have committed obvious crimes and treason? George Soros? Chuck Todd? Rupert Murdoch? Ted Turner? Brad Raffensperger? Nancy Pelosi? Chuckie Schumer? Kevin McCarthy? Steve Chucri? Bill Gates? (Both of them) Jack Dorsey? Mark Zuckerberg? Sundar Pichai? Eric Swalwell? > > What would you bet that such pages would not be maintained by and would likely be fought by the same people who maintain this Trump page? This thread is for a discussion about the effects of a delay in prosecution of Donald Trump. Your post here, as well as those following, are hijacks of this thread topic. That’s against our rules. Feel free to start your own thread about what you wish to discuss in your initial post, but do not continue to hijack this thread. Not a warning, only guidance. To others in this thread, please stop responding to this thread hijack. Thanks. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/delay-in-prosecution-of-trump/950708.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/delay-in-prosecution-of-trump/950708.md?page=6)