# DeLay indicted

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/delay-indicted/323877>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [September 28, 2005, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/delay-indicted/323877 "2005-09-28T16:51:02Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![NurseCarmen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5daacb/32.png) [@NurseCarmen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NurseCarmen)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2005, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/delay-indicted/323877/1 "2005-09-28T16:51:02Z")

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Anyone suprised? The shit has [finally](http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/09/28/delay.investigation.ap/index.html) caught up with the scumbag. I was worried for a while there when he had his county’s prosecutor in his pocket.

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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2005, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/delay-indicted/323877/2 "2005-09-28T16:53:33Z")

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It couldn’t have happened to a nicer person, bless his heart.

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**Author:** ![Loopydude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e56c9b/32.png) [@Loopydude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loopydude)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2005, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/delay-indicted/323877/3 "2005-09-28T16:53:36Z")

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Lies! Slander! Treasonous calumny! Massive left-wing conspiracy! Saddam! Osama! Jeebus and the Right to Bear Arms! 9/11! Watch what you SAY!

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**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2005, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/delay-indicted/323877/4 "2005-09-28T16:54:00Z")

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Delay is a powerful man. It’ll be interesting to watch him fight this one. He loves his job and is a confrontational SOB…I don’t think he’ll step down from his seat unless utterly back-to-the-wall.

On the other hand, I betcha elucidator is happy right now.

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**Author:** ![NurseCarmen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5daacb/32.png) [@NurseCarmen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NurseCarmen)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2005, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/delay-indicted/323877/5 "2005-09-28T16:55:46Z")

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> [@Jonathan Chance](#):
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> I don’t think he’ll step down from his seat unless utterly back-to-the-wall.

[DeLay to step aside after indictment](http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/09/28/delay.investigation.ap/index.html)

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**Author:** ![Daithi\_Lacha](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/daithi_lacha/32/5430_2.png) [@Daithi\_Lacha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Daithi_Lacha)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2005, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/delay-indicted/323877/6 "2005-09-28T16:58:28Z")

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Now the question is: does the buck stop with him, or is he the first domino?

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**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2005, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/delay-indicted/323877/7 "2005-09-28T16:59:25Z")

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> [@NurseCarmen](#):
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> [DeLay to step aside after indictment](http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/09/28/delay.investigation.ap/index.html)

Note my phrasing. He’ll step aside as _Majority Leader_ not his seat in the House of Representatives. He’ll leave the House when absolutely forced to and not before.

Besides, current House rules require him to step aside from his leadership position when indicted. If he’s acquitted he’ll be back in PDQ.

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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2005, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/delay-indicted/323877/8 "2005-09-28T17:01:51Z")

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> [@Jonathan Chance](#):
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> If he’s acquitted he’ll be back in PDQ.

Or pardoned.

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**Author:** ![Loopydude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e56c9b/32.png) [@Loopydude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loopydude)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2005, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/delay-indicted/323877/9 "2005-09-28T17:02:24Z")

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Is it wrong for me to be so…jubilant? I just can’t help it. This is some of the best news I’ve heard in years. Here’s hoping this dirtbag eats it and drags half his disgusting party down with him. I can only wish with great fervor that some of the associated muck and mire sticks to BushCo indelibly. If a few Dem’s finally remember to insert their spines in the morning before they go to work, maybe some of the other acts of perfidy our Republican Overlords have been serially committing since 2001 might actually attract serious legal scrutiny for a change.

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**Author:** ![Maeglin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8baadc/32.png) [@Maeglin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maeglin)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2005, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/delay-indicted/323877/10 "2005-09-28T17:03:11Z")

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Is FOX’s report that David Dreier is on tap to succeed him credible?

Yes, this is actually a serious question.

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**Author:** ![lno](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a8b319/32.png) [@lno](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lno)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2005, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/delay-indicted/323877/11 "2005-09-28T17:06:19Z")

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> [@Maeglin](#):
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> Is FOX’s report that David Dreier is on tap to succeed him credible?
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> Yes, this is actually a serious question.

CNN reported the same thing, attributing it to Hastert.

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**Author:** ![John\_Corrado](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a88e4f/32.png) [@John\_Corrado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Corrado)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2005, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/delay-indicted/323877/12 "2005-09-28T17:09:13Z")

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Washington post also reports Haster saying Drier will succeed DeLay.

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**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2005, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/delay-indicted/323877/13 "2005-09-28T17:09:29Z")

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Hopefully, just as the coverage about DeLay’s indictment dies down, they’ll announce Karl Rove’s indictment.

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**Author:** ![Loopydude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e56c9b/32.png) [@Loopydude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loopydude)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2005, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/delay-indicted/323877/14 "2005-09-28T17:10:40Z")

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> [@Hentor the Barbarian](#):
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> Hopefully, just as the coverage about DeLay’s indictment dies down, they’ll announce Karl Rove’s indictment.

Oh, don’t tease! Don’t tease me like that!

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**Author:** ![Maeglin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8baadc/32.png) [@Maeglin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maeglin)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2005, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/delay-indicted/323877/15 "2005-09-28T17:12:02Z")

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> [@John Corrado](#):
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> Washington post also reports Haster saying Drier will succeed DeLay.

Nah, it looks like the scuttlebutt is that Hastert will propose Dreier. It has not been confirmed that he actually said it.

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> GOP congressional officials said Speaker Dennis Hastert, R-Ill., will recommend that Rep. David Dreier of California step into those duties. Some of the duties may go to the GOP whip, Rep. Roy Blunt of Missouri. The Republican rank and file may meet as early as Wednesday night to act on Hastert’s recommendation.

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**Author:** ![interface2x](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/c0e974/32.png) [@interface2x](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/interface2x)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2005, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/delay-indicted/323877/16 "2005-09-28T17:14:23Z")

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As long as someone from the media stops him on his way out of the courtroom to ask “Admit it, this is kinda fun, isn’t it?”, I’ll be satisfied.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2005, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/delay-indicted/323877/17 "2005-09-28T17:17:54Z")

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Who here knows anything about Dreier? Is this an improvement, or just a swap?

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2005, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/delay-indicted/323877/18 "2005-09-28T17:19:37Z")

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> [@Loopydude](#):
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> Lies! Slander! Treasonous calumny! Massive left-wing conspiracy! Saddam! Osama! Jeebus and the Right to Bear Arms! 9/11! Watch what you SAY!

You omitted the most important talking point (“Clinton Did Worse”). I’m afraid I’m going to have to ask you to turn in your Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy Secret Decoder Ring.

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**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2005, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/delay-indicted/323877/19 "2005-09-28T17:21:16Z")

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> [@](#):
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> The White House, meanwhile, called DeLay a “good ally,” and said President Bush still considered DeLay a friend and effective leader in Congress.

[WaPo](http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/09/28/AR2005092800270.html)

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**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2005, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/delay-indicted/323877/20 "2005-09-28T17:22:31Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> Who here knows anything about Dreier? Is this an improvement, or just a swap?

[Here’s his House page.](http://dreier.house.gov/)

I’m not sure anyone could be The Hammer again. And I’m betting that Hastert is, inside, just a little bit, happy to see the higher profile Delay off screen for a while.

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