# Delayed sunrise in Panama **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [November 20, 2021, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/delayed-sunrise-in-panama/954649 "2021-11-20T00:39:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2021, 8:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/delayed-sunrise-in-panama/954649/21 "2021-11-20T08:09:08Z")
> [@ASL\_v2.0](#): > > What next? A border crossing where you travel south into Canada from the US? We’ve got a couple of those. > **[Ambassador Bridge](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ambassador_Bridge)** > > The Ambassador Bridge is a tolled international suspension bridge across the Detroit River that connects Detroit, Michigan, United States, with Windsor, Ontario, Canada. Opened in 1929, it is the busiest international border crossing in North America in terms of trade volume, carrying more than 25% of all merchandise trade between the United States and Canada by value. A 2004 Border Transportation Partnership study showed that 150,000 jobs in the Detroit–Windsor region and US$13 billion in ann > **[Detroit–Windsor tunnel](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Detroit%E2%80%93Windsor_tunnel)** > > The Detroit–Windsor tunnel (French: tunnel de Détroit-Windsor), also known as the Detroit–Canada tunnel, is an international highway tunnel connecting the cities of Detroit, Michigan, United States and Windsor, Ontario, Canada. It is the second-busiest crossing between the United States and Canada, the first being the Ambassador Bridge, which also connects the two cities, which are situated on the Detroit River. > The tunnel is 5,160 feet (1,573 m) long (nearly a mile). At its lowest point, the tw... ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2021, 8:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/delayed-sunrise-in-panama/954649/22 "2021-11-20T08:37:17Z")
> [@ASL\_v2.0](#): > > This thread is… disorienting. > > What next? A border crossing where you travel south into Canada from the US? That’s called “Detroit and Windsor”, you use the Ambassador Bridge for that one. Or the tunnel under the Detroit River. Ninja’d. But I lived near there for about 12 years. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2021, 10:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/delayed-sunrise-in-panama/954649/23 "2021-11-20T10:49:10Z")
> [@ASL\_v2.0](#): > > See, now ther > [@ASL\_v2.0](#): > > See, now there I don’t know. Panama is sufficiently narrow in places that one might conceivably, from a sufficient height (perhaps achievable by natural terrain, or perhaps even a tall building) see both the Atlantic and the Pacific from the same point simply by turning about. You can see both oceans from many peaks in the central mountains, but it is usually cloudy on one side or the other. I have seen both oceans from several peaks, but rarely if ever at the same time. The joke about looking over the Atlantic doesn’t make sense, since I wasn’t looking for the actual sunrise, but rather the sky getting light. ---
**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2021, 12:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/delayed-sunrise-in-panama/954649/24 "2021-11-20T12:51:23Z")
I’m thinking [this may help](https://youtu.be/Krmz3inZH34?t=154). ---
**Author:** ![ASL\_v2.0](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asl_v2.0/32/3525_2.png) [@ASL\_v2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ASL_v2.0)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2021, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/delayed-sunrise-in-panama/954649/25 "2021-11-20T18:10:09Z")
So… you’re asking us if we like fried chicken fingers? And if we say no, you’re going to accuse us of being fish of a certain orientation and gender? ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2021, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/delayed-sunrise-in-panama/954649/26 "2021-11-20T18:19:22Z")
> [@DesertDog](#): > > Not the sun, though. I’m too lazy for that. Preach it. ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2021, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/delayed-sunrise-in-panama/954649/27 "2021-11-20T19:26:36Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > You can see both oceans from many peaks in the central mountains, On the San Francisco Bay Area Peninsula, there are peaks where you can see both the Pacific Ocean and the Bay. ---
**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2021, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/delayed-sunrise-in-panama/954649/28 "2021-11-20T19:44:36Z")
But are the birds confused? ---
**Author:** ![ASL\_v2.0](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asl_v2.0/32/3525_2.png) [@ASL\_v2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ASL_v2.0)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2021, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/delayed-sunrise-in-panama/954649/29 "2021-11-20T20:43:44Z")
As I understand it, the swallows are most confused. Lost, looking for shelter, and yet unable to find it. ---
**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2021, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/delayed-sunrise-in-panama/954649/30 "2021-11-21T00:13:13Z")
African swallows or European? ---
**Author:** ![ASL\_v2.0](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asl_v2.0/32/3525_2.png) [@ASL\_v2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ASL_v2.0)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2021, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/delayed-sunrise-in-panama/954649/31 "2021-11-21T00:25:29Z")
You’d have to ask Colibris. IANAO(rnithologist). ---
**Author:** ![Hari\_Seldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hari_seldon/32/5173_2.png) [@Hari\_Seldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hari_Seldon)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2021, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/delayed-sunrise-in-panama/954649/32 "2021-11-21T00:58:03Z")
I hate to point this out, but the posting time was 7:39 _PM_. ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2021, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/delayed-sunrise-in-panama/954649/33 "2021-11-21T01:32:15Z")
> [@Hari\_Seldon](#): > > I hate to point this out, but the posting time was 7:39 _PM_.   I think Panama broke loose and floated halfway around the world, unnoticed. (Yeah, I did that once too. I got up real early, before dawn, to watch for Comet Kohoutek. It never came. Eventually, it got late enough that I thought it should be getting light, but it didn’t. Even more eventually, I figured out that it was still the previous evening, and I had gotten up _way_ earlier than I thought. These things happen when you have a really irregular schedule.) ---
**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2021, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/delayed-sunrise-in-panama/954649/34 "2021-11-21T02:43:59Z")
Colibri just proved the flat Earth I think, ---
**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2021, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/delayed-sunrise-in-panama/954649/35 "2021-11-27T00:26:14Z")
RIP, Colibri. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/delayed-sunrise-in-panama/954649.md?page=1)