Deleted Scenes/Alternate Endings that should have remained

It would have been nice if they’d kept in a little more of the footage that developed the character of Darryl Smalls (the bass player), who really took a backseat to Nigel and David in the finished film. Such is the fate of “lukewarm water”, I guess. But in the extra footage we learn that he’s going through a rough divorce, and we also see that he has a very, very small-time acting career.

I always figured the November, 1955 date was somehow saved in the controls of the time machine from the previous trip, so that’s why Biff went back to that time. Either he saw the date and figured it was as good a time as any to visit, or he didn’t understand how to work the controls well enough to program a new date. But the explanation in the deleted scene is much better.

Any version of Blade Runner besides the director’s cut is an abomination before art and should be purged from the Universe.

But that’s one Dickhead’s opinion.

To take this on a different tack, I’d love to see the original theatrical release of Metropolis. That’s physically impossible now, barring some amazing new finds, but I can dream.

I sort of agree, but I can see why it was cut.
After watching it I started to get pissed off whenever I saw her bitching about how it’s Gods fault that she can’t have children… “When some quiet little infection destroyed my uterus… WHERE WAS GOD?” Especially since she revealed how crushed her boyfriend (Husband? I forget) was when he found out that his child had been killed.

On the other hand, with this scene included, In the end, when it is revealed that she is pregnant, it seems more like a forgiveness than a ‘reward’.

I don’t prefer it but I do like it

The two versions feel so different I don’t really compare them.

About the Star Wars stuff. The early stuff with Luke and Biggs is really pretty boring. I do like the deleted scene of Luke seeing the opening spaceship shoot out through his superbinoculars.

In Empire Strikes Back the famous Threepio tricks the Snowtroopers into the Wampa pen scene would have been cool.

A trivial example, and I can’t even remember the name of the movie, but this thread reminded me of it. There was the cheapo exploitation movie about a woman trying to start up her own aerobics studio. The villain was a sleazy guy who was trying to stop her. I saw the movie first on video and there was a scene early in the movie where the guy had invited the woman over supposedly to discuss financing her business. Instead he invited her to go swimming in his pool and put the moves on her. She turned him down and the scene ended.

A year later I saw the same movie on cable. This time there was a different edit. The guy invited the woman over and made a pass. The woman turned him down, but this time the scne continued and she changed her mind and slept with the guy.

Obviously I realize I’m not talking about Citizen Kane here. But even at the level of characterization in this movie, there was a major difference in how you saw the woman’s subsequent dealings with the villain depending on whether you thought she had stood up to him or had a one night stand with him.

A little searching on IMDB, and the name is Heavenly Bodies (1984).

Killer Klowns from Outer Space there is a short scene where the lead actress is describing a childhood memory about a clown picking her up and scaring her. Later on in the movie it happens again. It’s a nice little scene that explains a bit why she doesn’t like clowns, and it adds some depth to the character.

There are quite a few deleted scenes in Amadeus that illustrate Mozart’s financial problems. But they should have left in the scenes where it shows why Mozart is struggling so hard: Saleri spreads rumors of Mozart’s debts and that Mozart is a sex fiend. This explains why Mozart never got the chance to tutor Emperor Joseph’s neice as well his failure to get many jobs in the first place.

Another scene I felt should have been left in is a scene where Saleri tells Constance that if she wants Saleri to put in a good word for Mozart and get him the job (to tutor Princess Elizabeth) she has to come back to his place that night. She shows up and is about to take off her clothes for him when he signals for a servant to take her out of the house. This explains Constance’s hatred for Saleri at the end of the movie when she tells him to leave.

These all are in the Director’s Cut, though.

I think that’s forgivable. Tim McCandless had been trying to get SHL made for over ten years, and who knows how long it took him to finalize the script. [spoiler]Maybe because of that, the year the main story takes place is never stated, and there are no clear indications of the epilogue’s era, like cell phones or something. So if Walter was 14 in the early '60s (I do think the main story is set then, not in the '50s), he could be 40 in the epilogue, which would place that scene in the '80s. Flashing forward doesn’t necessarily mean flashing forward to the year the film is released.

And I didn’t like that “alternate ending” at all. Actually, it was the original ending, but test audiences thought, as I do, that it was too drawn out and too corny. It slowed the whole thing down, whereas the theatrical release was short and to the point, consistent with the rest of the film. Although I will admit that the very last shot of the longer ending breaks my heart. But everything beforehand makes me gag.[/spoiler]

Hmm…slightly off-topic, but how about an ending that should’ve been deleted, because it almost ruined the movie? I refer to Vanilla Sky, in which the obviously tacked-on ‘ending’ (everything after “DING!”, for those that have seen it) served two equally asinine purposes: 1) to provide a detailed explanation of the entire movie, beginning to end, for the benefit of the utterly obtuse (as everybody else had already figured it out long before), and 2) to attach a “moral lesson” to a movie that shouldn’t (and up to that point, didn’t) have one.

When the movie continued after the DING!, my best friend and I looked at each other quizically, thinking, “what the hell else is there to say?”. What followed was the most sickening appeal to the lowest common audience-member denominator that I had ever seen; all the worse since it was attached to what was otherwise an extremely enjoyable movie. Seriously, at that point in the movie, the lead character knows what’s going on, every non-idiot in the audience knows what’s going on, the lead character is voicing his emotional reaction to it, and the “DING!” lets us know that his reaction is getting a response. This is all we require, and it would’ve been a damn fine ending at that. I like ambiguous endings when they’re done well; this one would’ve been. But nope, gotta explain the movie to the morons. I almost hated the movie because of it, but finally decided that I could just pretend that ending didn’t exist, and the movie concluded as it should have.

(Sorry for the slight hijack, but this ending was a deleted scene, whether the producers and director like it or not.)

About ten years ago, I went to see an aging theatrical organ player perform accompaniment to “Metropolis”. The thing is, he had his own print, with tons of footage not seen in Giorgio Moroder’s semi-colorized version. The whole plot line at the end was different than what Moroder had put together, and made a lot more sense.

Unfortunately I don’t recall the man’s name.

The “crab-walking” scene from ‘The Exorcist’ was creepy as fuck, and I think should have stayed.

Wow, I can’t believe nobody here has come up with this one-

Army of Darkness- Apparently the producers or somebody didn’t like Sam Raimi’s original ending so they made him change it.

[spoiler] In the hollywood ending, Ash takes the potion and then it cuts back to the present, where he makes some parting comment to some S-mart drone how he didn’t exactly say the words correctly and he fights a zombie in the store. It does show some character development with Ash- in Evil Dead II he was just ordinary cowardly Joe Blow but dealing with undead up to this point shaped him into being a badass. Still, it was a little rushed and contrived.

The original ending involved Ash sealing himself in a cave where the potion would make him sleep 1 century for every drop. But being the dolt he is, Ash miscounts and when he wakes up, he leaves the cave to see a post-apocalyptic England. Very much in the flavor of Planet of the Apes.

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I prefer the theatrical ending of Army of Darkness.

Most movies are cut from their theatrical releases to fit into the two-hour time slot for television broadcast. Superman had extra scenes added back in to expand its run time to three hours. Just about every scene is an improvement. Most memorable is the scene in which Superman drills into Lex’s underground lair. In the theatrical version, Superman spins, acting as a drill, and disappears into the sidewalk. The next scene has him breaking down the steel door. In the expanded version, he goes through a series of rooms, one set up with machine guns, a second with blowtorches, and a third that freezes him. This makes much more sense from Lex’s pov, having a series of booby traps to kill intruders and test Superman.

In What Dreams May Come:

[spoiler]Robin Williams has just rescued his wife from hell (literally) where she otherwise would have spent eternity for having killed herself. She’s offered the chance to go back to earth to make amends and heal her soul, which she agrees to do. Williams wants to go back and be with her. This is where the two endings diverge.

Theatrical: Two young children are playing with their boats in a lake, where they bump into each other, a recreation of their meeting in their first lives as adults.

Original: Their guide tells them he anticipated this, and there is a way, but it involves some sacrifice. She will be reborn to a poor family in a south Asian country, taking the place of a girl destined to die at birth. She’ll be beautiful and loved, but will suffer from a life-long sleep disorder (her pennance for committing suicide, I assume). He’ll be reborn an American man who goes there as a relief worker, and will fall in love with her and they’ll once again be married. His love will enable her to bear the disorder from which she suffers, but she will eventually die in his arms a young woman. He’ll live to be an old man, always lonely for the one true love he lost in his youth. (“I’ll have time to read,”) he jokes. We fad in on a young Indian woman giving a difficult birth. The doctor looks worried, and the baby doesn’t appear to be breathing. Finally, the baby comes to life and begins to cry (her soul entering the baby, I assume).[/spoiler]

The original ending is much more appropriate to the journey these two have made so far in the movie; the theatrical ending makes it seem as if they’ll have it easy the second time around, which undermines the point being made. I read one comment that the filmmakers thought the original might provoke protest among one side or the other in the abortion debate, and they wanted to avoid any possible controversy, though I don’t recall which side was supposed to be offended and can’t see any connection myself.

Roland: Could you go into more detail? Put it in a spoiler box if you need to. I haven’t seen Vanilla Sky, but I’m a big fan of the original Spanish version and I’m curious to compare the ending you describe to that one. The Spanish version ends with

The official at the memory bank explaining that the vr was distorted by his guilt, which was why things went wrong so badly. He then offers the protagonist a choice between waking up to the real world, or trying again with the computer simulation, but with a warning that until he deals with his guilt and depression the results might be the same as before. He chooses to wake up to the real world, and the movie closes with a woman’s voice saying “Open your eyes” over a dark screen. We don’t see what he wakes up to.

In The Two Towers, the bit during the burial of Theodred when Eowyn sings the lament was her finest acting in the whole movie, and it ended up getting cut.

The Official Bootleg Edition (AKA, the Director’s Cut) restores the original ending.

Unfortunately, it also restores an earlier take of the ‘Good, Bad, I’m the guy with the gun’ scene, which replaces that line with one much less memorable. In fact. I can’t remember it at all. I gather, from the commentary, that Bruce prefers ‘Good, Bad, etc’, although apparently Sam likes the other (since he restored that one, and all.).

There is more of a ‘fuck this’ tone to the director’s cut line, IIRC, but…the other line is so…COOL.

Number Six

The American version ends the same way the Spanish one does.

[SPOILER]The representative’s “explanation” serves no purpose except to spoon-feed every single point in the plot to people with no powers of deduction. Tom Cruise’s character has already figured out that he’s in suspended animation, as signified by his screaming at the end. The average audience member (or at least, my friend, myself, and two other friends who have seen the movie) figured that out as soon as they went to the company headquarters. The only thing that’s still ambiguous before the representative shows up is at what point reality ended and the dream began, and I think they should’ve left that undefined for two reasons: 1) it’s unimportant to the plot, and its abscence would leave the movie with the same air of mystery that made it cool up to that point, and 2) it would make for interesting after-movie conversation and speculation. As for his decision to live in the real world, that is the most tacked-on useless cheesy cop-out piece of crap ending I have yet to encounter. It’s attempting to add a moral (“self-delusion is bad”, wow, huge philosophical concept, see The Matrix for further examples) to a movie that didn’t have one and didn’t need one. So, after watching a cool and interesting movie, the audience, feeling very gratified after having completed their understanding of the situation, then gets to sit and get insulted for the next twenty minutes as a new unnecessary character explains to them what they should already know. Throw in a fake cheap moral lesson, and you’ve got yourself a truly horrible ending. The “open your eyes” (the last line of the English version) is nothing more than an equally gratuitous attempt to recapture the mystery, and it, like the rest of the ending, falls flat on its face.

The movie essentially ended during the lobby scene, where Tom Cruise’s character is screaming in the realization of what has happened to him. The resolution comes with the “DING!” of the elevator chime, letting us know that whoever is out there is responding to his anguish. That is all the conclusion the movie, and I, required.[/SPOILER]

One of these days, I’m going to rip the movie from my DVD, use video editing software to cut out that imbecilic pointless-ass ending, roll to credits after the “DING!”, and release the Vanilla Sky: Special Non-Crappy Edition on some peer-to-peer network. The world may then rejoice.

As I think I’ve noted before in a similar thread, I’d like to see the original ending of Pretty In Pink where Andie goes to the prom with Duckie and Blane gets the brush-off.

Well, yes and no. The director’s cut has the far better ending, but the movie is shit without the voiceover.

Roland: Thanks for the info. However much you may dislike it, the ending isn’t “tacked on”. Alejendro Amenebar was the writer/director of the original and the writer of the remake. The ending you describe is the originally intended one. Amenebar’s movies tend to go on beyond what an American audience would normally expect to be the climax (Thesis has two or three points where you expect it to end before the actual climax).

Not having seen the American version, I cannot comment on how well the ending works there, but I think it works well in Abres los Ojos, and the tacked-on moral you disdain is neatly woven throughout the original to the point that to end the movie sooner would have been detrimental. And I very much like the ending moment.

Oh, and for the most " useless cheesy cop-out piece of crap ending", one need go no farther than Revenge.