# Delta Air Lines Bans Disruptive Donald Trump Supporter for Life **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 30, 2016, 6:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/delta-air-lines-bans-disruptive-donald-trump-supporter-for-life/773447 "2016-11-30T06:04:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2016, 6:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/delta-air-lines-bans-disruptive-donald-trump-supporter-for-life/773447/1 "2016-11-30T06:04:16Z")
[Story here](http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/28/business/delta-air-lines-bans-trump-supporter-for-life-after-rude-remarks.html?_r=0). [Video here](https://twitter.com/yashar/status/802213440513310720/video/1) (NSFW language; audio is muted by default). > [@](#): > > Ms. Baum was quoted by The Morning Call on Nov. 26 as saying that she had first noticed the man, who was not identified, shouting pro-Trump slogans in the terminal while waiting to board Flight 248. The man ended up sitting next to her, and she told him she had been out of the country and asked him about the election, she said. > > Ms. Baum told The Morning Call that as the man became animated, jumping out of his seat, she began recording him with her cellphone. In the video, the man is seen clapping his hands and shouting at other passengers. > > He says in part: “Donald Trump, baby! We got some Hillary bitches on here?” > > The man also yelled: “Donald Trump! It’s your president. Every goddamn one of you. If you don’t like it, too bad.” Apparently he was removed from he plane before takeoff but then allowed back on. Delta acknowledged that that was the wrong call. > [@](#): > > After the video was posted online, Delta Air Lines issued a statement on Nov. 26, apologizing to customers for the disruption and saying, “We have followed up with the teams involved and all agree that this customer should not have been allowed to continue on the flight.” > > Mr. Bastian said in the statement on Monday: “After questioning the customer, our team members made the best decision they could given the information they had and allowed him to remain on the flight.” > > He added, “If our colleagues had witnessed firsthand what was shown in the video, there is no question they would have removed him from the aircraft. He will never again be allowed on a Delta plane.” Mr. Trump’s reward for bad behavior was winning the Presidential election; IMO we should not allow his supporters who exhibit bad behavior to be similarly rewarded. Good job, Ms. Baum; better late than never, Delta. ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2016, 6:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/delta-air-lines-bans-disruptive-donald-trump-supporter-for-life/773447/2 "2016-11-30T06:17:07Z")
That few seconds of video alone hardly seems sufficient for a lifetime ban. But it sounds like there was a sustained barrage of obscenities shouted at other passengers both in the terminal and the plane. That’s a judgment call for staff who saw it, I can’t see how you can assess that from the video. In any event, his political affiliation is irrelevant. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2016, 6:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/delta-air-lines-bans-disruptive-donald-trump-supporter-for-life/773447/3 "2016-11-30T06:18:51Z")
> [@Riemann](#): > > In any event, his political affiliation is irrelevant. Not really, since open racism, sexism and assaulting people is what Trump stands for. And is behavior his election has legitimized and is encouraging. So, get used to it. ---
**Author:** ![Mince](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecd19e/32.png) [@Mince](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mince)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2016, 12:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/delta-air-lines-bans-disruptive-donald-trump-supporter-for-life/773447/4 "2016-11-30T12:25:44Z")
Of course airlines are going to ban disruptive people. Next post, “People need to sleep” and “Wham is awsome.” ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2016, 12:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/delta-air-lines-bans-disruptive-donald-trump-supporter-for-life/773447/5 "2016-11-30T12:46:23Z")
> [@Mince](#): > > “Wham is awsome.” Are you referring to “Wham!” ? The exclamation mark is an indispensable part of the awesomeness. ---
**Author:** ![Mince](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecd19e/32.png) [@Mince](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mince)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2016, 12:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/delta-air-lines-bans-disruptive-donald-trump-supporter-for-life/773447/6 "2016-11-30T12:52:07Z")
> [@Riemann](#): > > Are you referring to “Wham!” ? > The exclamation mark is an indispensable part of the awesomeness. God Damnit! I really tried to edit my post afterward, but ran out of time. I was fearful someone would call me on it. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2016, 12:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/delta-air-lines-bans-disruptive-donald-trump-supporter-for-life/773447/7 "2016-11-30T12:55:37Z")
> [@Mince](#): > > “Wham is awsome.” So is “Bam” and “Thanky Ma’am” The passenger in question was threatening and belligerent. It’s one thing to be an asshole, it’s another to be an asshole at the top of your lungs and verbally accost people in a confined space with no escape. He should be forever banned from ALL airlines. ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2016, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/delta-air-lines-bans-disruptive-donald-trump-supporter-for-life/773447/8 "2016-11-30T14:18:48Z")
Wait a second. It’s not clear to me from the story if, in fact, any Hillary bitches were on the plane. I think that issue should be addressed. (I kid, I kid. Because I love.) ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2016, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/delta-air-lines-bans-disruptive-donald-trump-supporter-for-life/773447/9 "2016-11-30T14:24:06Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > Wait a second. It’s not clear to me from the story if, in fact, any Hillary bitches were on the plane. I think that issue should be addressed. > > (I kid, I kid. Because I love.) I laughed. ---
**Author:** ![Mince](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecd19e/32.png) [@Mince](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mince)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2016, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/delta-air-lines-bans-disruptive-donald-trump-supporter-for-life/773447/10 "2016-11-30T14:31:27Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > Wait a second. It’s not clear to me from the story if, in fact, any Hillary bitches were on the plane. I think that issue should be addressed. > > (I kid, I kid. Because I love.) Hillary? ---
**Author:** ![Two\_Many\_Cats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8dc957/32.png) [@Two\_Many\_Cats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Two_Many_Cats)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2016, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/delta-air-lines-bans-disruptive-donald-trump-supporter-for-life/773447/11 "2016-11-30T16:24:29Z")
I don’t think you can ban someone for life for being a drunken idiot. If every drunken idiot were banned from flying, how would airlines stay in business? ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2016, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/delta-air-lines-bans-disruptive-donald-trump-supporter-for-life/773447/12 "2016-11-30T16:26:27Z")
Yeah, Mexico would be filled with drunken teenagers banned from flying home. ---
**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2016, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/delta-air-lines-bans-disruptive-donald-trump-supporter-for-life/773447/13 "2016-11-30T16:30:27Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > Not really, since open racism, sexism and assaulting people is what Trump stands for. And is behavior his election has legitimized and is encouraging. > > So, get used to it. Exactly this. Since Hillary supporters are the most racist, bigoted, misogynist and evil people , even more so than Hitler, it is our duty to stop them from murdering brown people. Especially them murdering brown people on airplanes. ---
**Author:** ![Mince](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecd19e/32.png) [@Mince](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mince)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2016, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/delta-air-lines-bans-disruptive-donald-trump-supporter-for-life/773447/14 "2016-11-30T16:32:07Z")
> [@Two\_Many\_Cats](#): > > I don’t think you can ban someone for life for being a drunken idiot. If every drunken idiot were banned from flying, how would airlines stay in business? Of course you can ban somebody for being a drunken idiot, you just can’t ban them for being a gay, lesbian, black, mexican, female, elderly, drunken idiot. How many people do you think are drunken idiots on flights? Not enough for airlines to assess the damages drunken fools are causing on flights vs. their value as paying customers and determine they are making the wrong decision. I think they’re safe banning one fool for life. ---
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2016, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/delta-air-lines-bans-disruptive-donald-trump-supporter-for-life/773447/15 "2016-11-30T17:01:59Z")
> [@Two\_Many\_Cats](#): > > I don’t think you can ban someone for life for being a drunken idiot. Sure you can. [Do Airlines Really Ban Unruly Passengers For Life? – Consumerist](https://consumerist.com/2016/11/29/do-airlines-really-ban-unruly-passengers-for-life/) ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2016, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/delta-air-lines-bans-disruptive-donald-trump-supporter-for-life/773447/16 "2016-11-30T17:06:01Z")
> [@Drunky\_Smurf](#): > > Exactly this. Since Hillary supporters are the most racist, bigoted, misogynist and evil people , even more so than Hitler, it is our duty to stop them from murdering brown people. Especially them murdering brown people on airplanes. …and while we’re on the subject of banning drunken idiots… :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Kimballkid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b5a626/32.png) [@Kimballkid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimballkid)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2016, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/delta-air-lines-bans-disruptive-donald-trump-supporter-for-life/773447/17 "2016-11-30T17:34:09Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > Wait a second. It’s not clear to me from the story if, in fact, any Hillary bitches were on the plane. I think that issue should be addressed. > > (I kid, I kid. Because I love.) Does Hillary even have female dogs? If so, if they were on the plane, wouldn’t she be traveling with them? ---
**Author:** ![MeanOldLady](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanoldlady/32/10737_2.png) [@MeanOldLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanOldLady)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2016, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/delta-air-lines-bans-disruptive-donald-trump-supporter-for-life/773447/18 "2016-11-30T18:23:45Z")
> [@Two\_Many\_Cats](#): > > I don’t think you can ban someone for life for being a drunken idiot. If every drunken idiot were banned from flying, how would airlines stay in business? How many flights have you been on with people behaving like drunken idiots? My answer is zero. People usually just sit down and shut the fuck up on planes. Unless you’re sitting next to me, of course. Then you want to chat about what you had for lunch or your cat, Miffles. No, no, I exaggerate. On 95% of flights, the person next to me shuts the hell up, but that other 5%, boy… ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2016, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/delta-air-lines-bans-disruptive-donald-trump-supporter-for-life/773447/19 "2016-11-30T18:44:45Z")
Delta Airlines is a private company, and is under no obligation to provide service to someone who has been a drunken asshole, disturbing their other customers. It does not matter what was spewing from the drunken asshole’s mouth. ---
**Author:** ![ron425](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b9bd4f/32.png) [@ron425](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ron425)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2016, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/delta-air-lines-bans-disruptive-donald-trump-supporter-for-life/773447/20 "2016-11-30T19:09:06Z")
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