# Delta Dawn/Ruby Red Dress type of songs

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/delta-dawn-ruby-red-dress-type-of-songs/722496>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [June 14, 2015, 10:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/delta-dawn-ruby-red-dress-type-of-songs/722496 "2015-06-14T10:58:44Z")\
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**Author:** ![Spoke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e57/32.png) [@Spoke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoke)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2015, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/delta-dawn-ruby-red-dress-type-of-songs/722496/41 "2015-06-15T20:37:22Z")

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> [@burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](#):
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> _Lucille_ by Kenny Rogers.

Does being bored with your marriage and stepping out on your husband (and 4 kids) count as “damaged”?

This is another one I would put in the mean woman category.

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**Author:** ![burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/burpo_the_wonder_mutt/32/365_2.png) [@burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/burpo_the_wonder_mutt)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2015, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/delta-dawn-ruby-red-dress-type-of-songs/722496/42 "2015-06-16T00:23:07Z")

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> [@Spoke](#):
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> Does being bored with your marriage and stepping out on your husband (and 4 kids) count as “damaged”?
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> This is another one I would put in the mean woman category.

Completely disagree. The husband, by his own words, is a narcissist: You picked a fine time to leave ME (not US); I’VE had some bad times. The only time he mentions her at all is to denigrate her.

Nothing in the song says she’s bored or stepping out–she’s gone; tired of being mistreated by a self-centered jerk who makes no time for a wife and her needs. Sounds kind of damaged to me.

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**Author:** ![Spoke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e57/32.png) [@Spoke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoke)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2015, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/delta-dawn-ruby-red-dress-type-of-songs/722496/43 "2015-06-16T01:08:47Z")

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> [@burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](#):
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> Completely disagree. The husband, by his own words, is a narcissist: You picked a fine time to leave ME (not US); I’VE had some bad times. The only time he mentions her at all is to denigrate her.
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> Nothing in the song says she’s bored or stepping out–she’s gone; tired of being mistreated by a self-centered jerk who makes no time for a wife and her needs. Sounds kind of damaged to me.

She hungry for laughter, and here ever after, she’s after whatever the other life brings. (Four hungry kids be damned, I guess.)

The song’s narrator is so put off he can’t go through with sleeping with her.

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**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2015, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/delta-dawn-ruby-red-dress-type-of-songs/722496/44 "2015-06-16T01:47:10Z")

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> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#):
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> Polk Salad Annie, a “wretched, dispiteful, straight-razor totin’ woman, Lord have mercy.”
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> I’m not sure I’d agree. I think the unnamed woman isn’t deranged or damaged, just cheatin’. Her long-suffering husband, on the other hand…
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> We always sang than song as “you can’t hide your Cylon eyes”.

Actually it’s the granny in the song who’s “wretched spiteful…”

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**Author:** ![Rick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/9f8e36/32.png) [@Rick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2015, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/delta-dawn-ruby-red-dress-type-of-songs/722496/45 "2015-06-16T02:51:59Z")

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Not so sweet Martha Lorraine

[![](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/QBUOKnLdJpc/hqdefault.jpg "Country Joe & The Fish "Not So Sweet Martha Lorraine"") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBUOKnLdJpc)

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**Author:** ![burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/burpo_the_wonder_mutt/32/365_2.png) [@burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/burpo_the_wonder_mutt)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2015, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/delta-dawn-ruby-red-dress-type-of-songs/722496/46 "2015-06-16T03:18:49Z")

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> [@Spoke](#):
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> She hungry for laughter, and here ever after, she’s after whatever the other life brings. (Four hungry kids be damned, I guess.)
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> The song’s narrator is so put off he can’t go through with sleeping with her.

So what, the narrator’s another narcissist taking the side of the husband. Plus, he’s probably got whiskey dick.

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**Author:** ![Spoke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e57/32.png) [@Spoke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoke)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2015, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/delta-dawn-ruby-red-dress-type-of-songs/722496/47 "2015-06-16T03:24:10Z")

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So are the four hungry kids also narcissists?

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**Author:** ![burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/burpo_the_wonder_mutt/32/365_2.png) [@burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/burpo_the_wonder_mutt)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2015, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/delta-dawn-ruby-red-dress-type-of-songs/722496/48 "2015-06-16T03:44:42Z")

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You don’t even know there are kids. That’s the kind of thing a jerk would say to another jerk to screw up his chances with her. Why isn’t hubby home feeding the kids if they’re so damn hungry? If there are kids, you don’t know what kind of despicable little shits they might be.

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**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2015, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/delta-dawn-ruby-red-dress-type-of-songs/722496/49 "2015-06-16T04:14:39Z")

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Is that all there is?  
Peggy Lee. How many first person ones are there?  
BTW Isn’t this mission starting to creep a bit?

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**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2015, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/delta-dawn-ruby-red-dress-type-of-songs/722496/50 "2015-06-16T04:16:10Z")

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Nineteenth Nervous Breakdown and about 100 other Rolling Stones songs.

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**Author:** ![CaptMurdock](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/captmurdock/32/11736_2.png) [@CaptMurdock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaptMurdock)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2015, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/delta-dawn-ruby-red-dress-type-of-songs/722496/51 "2015-06-17T17:38:00Z")

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> [@drad\_dog](#):
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> Actually it’s the granny in the song who’s “wretched spiteful…”

No, the gators got the granny.

The mama working on the chain gang is the “wretched, spiteful, straight-razor-toting woman.”

Get me a mess of it. 🆒

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**Author:** ![Philliam](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/philliam/32/3011_2.png) [@Philliam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Philliam)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2015, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/delta-dawn-ruby-red-dress-type-of-songs/722496/52 "2015-06-17T17:43:35Z")

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_Crazy Mary_ - Victoria Williams

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**Author:** ![Magicicada](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c67d28/32.png) [@Magicicada](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magicicada)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2015, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/delta-dawn-ruby-red-dress-type-of-songs/722496/53 "2015-06-17T23:03:48Z")

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My personal fave from the early Cher no-song-is-complete-until-someone-gets-shot catalog is Train of Thought. Oh, so you’re going to whisper another woman’s name in your sleep? How about I just get this gun and point it at your sleeping head? How about…how about…how about I kill _myself_? That’ll show you, you dirty sleep-cheater.

It’s really, really great to do in karaoke.

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**Author:** ![Spoke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e57/32.png) [@Spoke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoke)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2015, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/delta-dawn-ruby-red-dress-type-of-songs/722496/54 "2015-06-18T00:42:14Z")

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[Too Many Parties (And Too Many Pals)](https://youtu.be/DrgBMUQr0GY) - **Hank Williams** (as Luke the Drifter)

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**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2015, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/delta-dawn-ruby-red-dress-type-of-songs/722496/55 "2015-06-18T04:16:42Z")

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[I’m All Alone in a Palace of Stone.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xaVQ-7pdnZY)

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**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2015, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/delta-dawn-ruby-red-dress-type-of-songs/722496/56 "2015-06-18T14:42:20Z")

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Dylan’s “Lily, Rosemary & the Jack of Hearts.” Lily is the ultimate damaged woman.

And, oh yeah, Annie Christmas 😃

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**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2015, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/delta-dawn-ruby-red-dress-type-of-songs/722496/57 "2015-06-18T14:49:35Z")

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I am pleased to present Lucrecia Mac Evil by Blood, Sweat and Tears. IMHO, it is the finest example of a song with this theme that is also totally ridiculous.

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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2015, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/delta-dawn-ruby-red-dress-type-of-songs/722496/58 "2015-06-18T15:00:51Z")

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Has “Angie Baby” been listed yet?

A little hard to tell what is actually being described tho

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**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2015, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/delta-dawn-ruby-red-dress-type-of-songs/722496/59 "2015-06-18T15:37:58Z")

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> [@AncientHumanoid](#):
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> Has “Angie Baby” been listed yet?

Only in the OP. 🙂

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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2015, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/delta-dawn-ruby-red-dress-type-of-songs/722496/60 "2015-06-18T16:08:01Z")

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> [@Thudlow\_Boink](#):
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> Only in the OP. 🙂

I knew I saw it somewhere!

Who reads OPs, anyways?

🆒

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