# Delta forces Ann Coulter to change her seat -- she's peeved **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [July 19, 2017, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/delta-forces-ann-coulter-to-change-her-seat-shes-peeved/791648 "2017-07-19T13:15:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2017, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/delta-forces-ann-coulter-to-change-her-seat-shes-peeved/791648/21 "2017-07-19T22:29:24Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > Your cite is a comedy show? > Are you aware that’s FAKE? “Sir, I know what a comedy show is.” “I don’t think you do!” ---
**Author:** ![standingwave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9de0a6/32.png) [@standingwave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/standingwave)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2017, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/delta-forces-ann-coulter-to-change-her-seat-shes-peeved/791648/22 "2017-07-19T22:41:42Z")
> [@Channing\_Idaho\_Banks](#): > > Imagine your business model is getting people into and out of seats as fast as possible. Eventually you are going to make a mistake or some adjustment and piss off the wrong twitter user. > > That’s just business. If they dragged her off the plane by her hair for refusing to move from the seat she ‘wanted’ she would have more to tweet about. Oddly enough when that doctor got dragged off that United flight back in April, Coulter wanted him deported as well. > **[That Time Ann Coulter Called for Deportation of United Passenger Dragged From...](https://www.thewrap.com/ann-coulter-david-dao-deportation-united-passenger-dragged/)** > > Coulter wasn't so sympathetic to Dr. David Dao ---
**Author:** ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2017, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/delta-forces-ann-coulter-to-change-her-seat-shes-peeved/791648/23 "2017-07-19T22:43:29Z")
I liked when The Daily Show aired clips of her disdainfully talking about what whiny victims liberals are. :smack: ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2017, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/delta-forces-ann-coulter-to-change-her-seat-shes-peeved/791648/24 "2017-07-19T22:55:08Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > So is the outrage over this issue. Agreed. Coulter’s outrage is fake. ---
**Author:** ![TokyoBayer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tokyobayer/32/13989_2.png) [@TokyoBayer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TokyoBayer)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2017, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/delta-forces-ann-coulter-to-change-her-seat-shes-peeved/791648/25 "2017-07-20T01:49:03Z")
> [@Hilarity\_N.Suze](#): > > Well, she is being a bitch about it. I think photographing and publicizing the person who got her seat is beyond the pale. Although I do think, if you want an aisle seat and pay extra for it, and get moved, you can be pissed. Why didn’t the two people who wanted to change things around take the window and middle seat instead? That’s nuts. As The Young Turks put it [in their video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9JolcTOaKA), Ann did the impossible and made me agree with an airline. Ann is a vile person and if there were cosmic justice, she would not have simply been reassigned to another seat with extra legroom, but placed down in the baggage. That said, I would be pissed about getting moved around arbitrarily. I think if airlines are charging a fee to select a seat, then you should be able to keep it. However, you should also be able to be an adult enough to not bully individuals simply because you can. Posting the photo of the woman was an asshat move. If I were Delta I’d simply ban her for life for the bad publicity. Of course, if I were Delta I would banned her for life for simply being her, so it’s probably good that I don’t get to make decisions like that. ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2017, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/delta-forces-ann-coulter-to-change-her-seat-shes-peeved/791648/26 "2017-07-20T01:51:59Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > So is the outrage over this issue. The only one “outraged” was the woman sending out Tweet after Tweet about her victimhood at the hands of airline capitalism. The response to that has been more “gloating” than “outrage”. ---
**Author:** ![MaddyStrut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/dbc845/32.png) [@MaddyStrut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaddyStrut)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2017, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/delta-forces-ann-coulter-to-change-her-seat-shes-peeved/791648/27 "2017-07-20T01:53:42Z")
I probably would have been mildly irritated if I’d booked an aisle seat and got the window. I hate being boxed in. But she went way overboard with the twitter freak out. Really? This is all you have to get upset over? Poor baby. And then the dragged the other passenger into it by posting her photo. Said she had “dachshund legs” or something. That is just flat out wrong. That other passenger did nothing other than sit in a seat shown on her boarding pass. No reason to bring he into it. ---
**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2017, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/delta-forces-ann-coulter-to-change-her-seat-shes-peeved/791648/28 "2017-07-20T02:11:43Z")
> [@MaddyStrut](#): > > And then the dragged the other passenger into it by posting her photo. Said she had “dachshund legs” or something. That is just flat out wrong. That other passenger did nothing other than sit in a seat shown on her boarding pass. No reason to bring he into it. This is actually the most important element to this story. Coulter is just a shitty human being, as demonstrated by the above. There is absolutely no way to spin this to even give it the appearance of justification. Just a rotten person. This is just an incredibly blatant example. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2017, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/delta-forces-ann-coulter-to-change-her-seat-shes-peeved/791648/29 "2017-07-20T02:14:05Z")
She’s just taking lessons from the Commander in Chief. Don’t actually do something about the problem. Just tweet about it and attack others. Also, in the other thread on this, **mhendo** asked me if I had any evidence about people being seated together. I see this mentioned again in this thread. Does anyone have a source? ---
**Author:** ![Isamu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/7c8e57/32.png) [@Isamu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Isamu)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2017, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/delta-forces-ann-coulter-to-change-her-seat-shes-peeved/791648/30 "2017-07-20T02:17:13Z")
It would have been awesome if Chuck Norris and Lee Marvin made her change seats. ---
**Author:** ![buddha\_david](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ee7513/32.png) [@buddha\_david](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/buddha_david)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2017, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/delta-forces-ann-coulter-to-change-her-seat-shes-peeved/791648/31 "2017-07-20T02:41:11Z")
Coulter and Delta both deserve to be kicked in the crotch. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2017, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/delta-forces-ann-coulter-to-change-her-seat-shes-peeved/791648/32 "2017-07-20T02:44:17Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > She’s just taking lessons from the Commander in Chief. Don’t actually do something about the problem. Just tweet about it and attack others. > > Also, in the other thread on this, **mhendo** asked me if I had any evidence about people being seated together. I see this mentioned again in this thread. Does anyone have a source? Not exactly: [QUOTE=NYT article] “At the time of boarding, Delta inadvertently moved Coulter to 15A, a window seat, when working to accommodate several passengers with seating requests,” the statement said. [/quote] > **[Delta Air Lines Fires Back at Ann Coulter on Twitter, but Refunds Her $30...](https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/17/business/ann-coulter-delta-twitter.html?_r=0)** > > After a seat mix-up, the conservative commentator posted a barrage of criticism about Delta on Twitter. Delta responded that her actions were “unnecessary and unacceptable.” ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2017, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/delta-forces-ann-coulter-to-change-her-seat-shes-peeved/791648/33 "2017-07-20T02:47:53Z")
> [@Ambivalid](#): > > This is actually the most important element to this story. Coulter is just a shitty human being, as demonstrated by the above. There is absolutely no way to spin this to even give it the appearance of justification. Just a rotten person. This is just an incredibly blatant example. Yup. I’d be mildly annoyed if the airline moved me from the seat I chose to a seat I liked less. If she chose an aisle seat, she presumably prefers it to the window seat. I might express that annoyance by whining about it in an email to my husband, or I might try to joke about it here or on Facebook. Delta is at fault, but it’s a small fault, and they apologized, and refunded her the $30 even though she did get the extra legroom she paid for. But what she did was completely inexcusable. Dragging in the random woman they gave “her” seat to? Seriously? ---
**Author:** ![Doug\_K](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b5ac83/32.png) [@Doug\_K](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doug_K)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2017, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/delta-forces-ann-coulter-to-change-her-seat-shes-peeved/791648/34 "2017-07-20T16:40:34Z")
> [@puzzlegal](#): > > Yup. > > I’d be mildly annoyed if the airline moved me from the seat I chose to a seat I liked less. If she chose an aisle seat, she presumably prefers it to the window seat. I might express that annoyance by whining about it in an email to my husband, or I might try to joke about it here or on Facebook. Delta is at fault, but it’s a small fault, and they apologized, and refunded her the $30 even though she did get the extra legroom she paid for. > > But what she did was completely inexcusable. Dragging in the random woman they gave “her” seat to? Seriously? Why are you putting her in quotes? It was her seat. Delta acknowledged it, albeit begrudgingly and (this is important) only AFTER she complained publicly. Yes they refunded her the $30, but again only after she complained publicly. I’m not saying this happens all the time, but it does happen all too often that the people at a business will smile and shrug and “duh, whutcanyadoo?” but refuse to fix their mistake until the customer turns up the heat. It’s like they’re relying on the fact that many customers won’t want to make scene for fear they’ll look like the bad guy and just shut up and go away. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2017, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/delta-forces-ann-coulter-to-change-her-seat-shes-peeved/791648/35 "2017-07-20T16:49:26Z")
> [@Doug\_K](#): > > Why are you putting her in quotes? It was her seat. Delta acknowledged it, albeit begrudgingly and (this is important) only AFTER she complained publicly. Yes they refunded her the $30, but again only after she complained publicly. > > I’m not saying this happens all the time, but it does happen all too often that the people at a business will smile and shrug and “duh, whutcanyadoo?” but refuse to fix their mistake until the customer turns up the heat. It’s like they’re relying on the fact that many customers won’t want to make scene for fear they’ll look like the bad guy and just shut up and go away. Because the seat doesn’t belong to anyone. It’s just a seat. And it’s not the other person’s fault that they were told they should sit there. From their perspective, it’s just as much “their” seat, as that’s where they were told to sit. If Coulter wanted to dispute the seat, she should have done so when she was given the wrong seat assignment. She instead accepted the wrong assignment, but then went ahead and sat in the other seat, full well knowing someone else would have been assigned that seat. She’d rather make a mess on Twitter than actually do what was necessary to fix the problem. “Excuse me! It seems you got my seat wrong.” ---
**Author:** ![ftg](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ftg/32/2801_2.png) [@ftg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ftg)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2017, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/delta-forces-ann-coulter-to-change-her-seat-shes-peeved/791648/36 "2017-07-20T17:01:23Z")
> [@gigi](#): > > I liked when The Daily Show aired clips of her disdainfully talking about what whiny victims liberals are. :smack: That bit summed it all up quite nicely. If _they_ complain about major things they are wimps. If _I_ complain about a minor thing I’m just being assertive. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2017, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/delta-forces-ann-coulter-to-change-her-seat-shes-peeved/791648/37 "2017-07-20T17:04:51Z")
> [@Doug\_K](#): > > Why are you putting her in quotes? It was her seat. Delta acknowledged it, albeit begrudgingly and (this is important) only AFTER she complained publicly. Yes they refunded her the $30, but again only after she complained publicly. I suspect (but have not confirmed) that the seat to which she was moved would also have required the $30 surcharge, and that they refunded the money in the vain hope that it would shut her screeching yap. ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2017, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/delta-forces-ann-coulter-to-change-her-seat-shes-peeved/791648/38 "2017-07-20T17:45:47Z")
> [@Doug\_K](#): > > Why are you putting her in quotes? It was her seat. Delta acknowledged it, albeit begrudgingly and (this is important) only AFTER she complained publicly. No, her seat is the one she has a ticket for. Per Delta’s statement: > [@](#): > > _When there was some confusion with seating assignments during boarding, a flight attendant stepped in and asked that all of the passengers move to **the seats noted on their respective tickets**._ Bolding mine. If your ticket says 15A then that’s your seat. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2017, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/delta-forces-ann-coulter-to-change-her-seat-shes-peeved/791648/39 "2017-07-20T19:03:42Z")
> [@puzzlegal](#): > > If she chose an aisle seat, she presumably prefers it to the window seat. She evidently doesn’t have a strong preference, since the seat she originally purchased was a window seat. She changed it to an aisle within 24 hours of the flight. Delta’s site doesn’t make it clear what seat number was actually on her ticket, and whether that might have been different from the one on her boarding pass. > [@](#): > > The airline said that Coulter originally booked seat 15F, which is located by the window in an exit row, however; within 24 hours of the flight’s departure, the customer changed to seat 15D, which is by the aisle. At the time of boarding, Delta inadvertently moved Coulter to 15A, a window seat, when working to accommodate several passengers with seating requests. > > When there was some confusion with seating assignments during boarding, a flight attendant stepped in and asked that all of the passengers move to the seats noted on their respective tickets. It’s not obvious from this whether she ended up sitting in 15F or 15A, but it implies that it might have been the original seat, 15F. > [@Doug\_K](#): > > Why are you putting her in quotes? It was her seat. Delta acknowledged it, albeit begrudgingly and (this is important) only AFTER she complained publicly. Yes they refunded her the $30, but again only after she complained publicly. There doesn’t seem to be any evidence that she complained privately. > [@](#): > > Following the flight, crew members reported that there were no problems or concerns escalated. > > Delta first became aware of the issue with Coulter’s seat assignment when she began tweeting on July 15 after the flight’s arrival. Coulter’s objective through all of this doesn’t seem to have been to resolve the issue with Delta, but to attract attention to herself and make Delta look bad. She never gave Delta the opportunity to deal with it privately. ---
**Author:** ![Doug\_K](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b5ac83/32.png) [@Doug\_K](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doug_K)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2017, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/delta-forces-ann-coulter-to-change-her-seat-shes-peeved/791648/40 "2017-07-20T20:49:58Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > Because the seat doesn’t belong to anyone. It’s just a seat. And it’s not the other person’s fault that they were told they should sit there. From their perspective, it’s just as much “their” seat, as that’s where they were told to sit. > > If Coulter wanted to dispute the seat, she should have done so when she was given the wrong seat assignment. She instead accepted the wrong assignment, but then went ahead and sat in the other seat, full well knowing someone else would have been assigned that seat. > > She’d rather make a mess on Twitter than actually do what was necessary to fix the problem. “Excuse me! It seems you got my seat wrong.” Again, the airline acknowledged that it was, in fact, her seat, and that it was given to the other passenger by mistake. And assuming she didn’t say anything at the time (which we don’t know - the articles don’t say anything one way or the other) what do think would have happened if she had? They’d say “Oops, my bad. Let me put you back in the seat you were supposed to have?” No, they’d just do the same old smile and “Sorry, but you need to sit in THIS seat, ma’am” bit. And if she’d pressed the matter, she’d have been thrown off for being “disruptive”. Leaving her with the choice between sitting where they told her and complaining later, or missing her flight. If Delta doesn’t want to “look bad” they need to stop being bad. And stop this “reservations aren’t really reservations” crap. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/delta-forces-ann-coulter-to-change-her-seat-shes-peeved/791648.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/delta-forces-ann-coulter-to-change-her-seat-shes-peeved/791648.md?page=3)