# Demanding cites for things that would take you 2 second to look up is lazy **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 30, 2025, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/demanding-cites-for-things-that-would-take-you-2-second-to-look-up-is-lazy/1020281 "2025-06-30T01:49:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2025, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/demanding-cites-for-things-that-would-take-you-2-second-to-look-up-is-lazy/1020281/81 "2025-06-30T17:08:40Z")
> [@Kropotkin](#): > > Frodo is the Godfather’s middle son and Messi is a player in the National Hockey League. “We knows it was you, Frodo. You broke our heartses. _Gollum! Gollum!_ You broke our heartses!” ---
**Author:** ![sciurophobic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cab0a1/32.png) [@sciurophobic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sciurophobic)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2025, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/demanding-cites-for-things-that-would-take-you-2-second-to-look-up-is-lazy/1020281/82 "2025-06-30T17:48:49Z")
> [@Beckdawrek](#): > > Maybe just don’t open the thread if you don’t understand the reference. No. Open the thread, but don’t post unless, after reading responses from people who understood the reference respond, you still don’t know what anybody’s talking about and want to know. ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2025, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/demanding-cites-for-things-that-would-take-you-2-second-to-look-up-is-lazy/1020281/83 "2025-06-30T17:51:10Z")
I think you read that correctly, unless, say, there was another thread where you were complaining about acronyms and the poster was trying to be snarky back at you in this thread. But that’s the only circumstance I could see where it could be read as sarcasm as opposed to literally. ---
**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2025, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/demanding-cites-for-things-that-would-take-you-2-second-to-look-up-is-lazy/1020281/84 "2025-06-30T18:23:16Z")
> [@CairoCarol](#): > > A VPN in 1993? > > I had no need to hide my IP address. But the internet was in its infancy (wasn’t it still DARPANET then?) I’m not up on the details, I just know that I first “surfed the net” circa 1998, using YAHOO, and while it could be very entertaining it wasn’t exactly a good source of information. By 1993, it was The Internet. There was no World Wide Web yet, but Usenet, MUDs, and FTP were around. I still remember using Archie (I think) to find Neverwinter Nights files to download. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2025, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/demanding-cites-for-things-that-would-take-you-2-second-to-look-up-is-lazy/1020281/85 "2025-06-30T18:33:38Z")
Another factor is the “What does ‘TP’ mean?” poster is from the Australian Outback. They’re not a USAian. I have no doubt the Aussies have all sorts of colorful terminology for all things related to the loo. Most of which would sail over our heads like an Aaron Judge home run. All of us 'Murricans, myself certainly included, are often guilty of assuming our entire audience is US-based, or even further, have lived their entire life in the USA. That poster did seem to me to come off a tad ill-tempered. Just as I did in the Boomhauser thread which triggered this thread. Some days are like that. ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2025, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/demanding-cites-for-things-that-would-take-you-2-second-to-look-up-is-lazy/1020281/86 "2025-06-30T18:34:53Z")
Mosaic was released in 1993. I also remember accessing the WWW through Gopher, but not the World Wide Web we think of today. I remember buying books at the store that had various WWW links to explore, but the was more the second half of 1994 for me. Yahoo had a presence on Gopher IIRC with some sort of name like Yahoo’s Favorites. No, it was “Jerry and David’s Guide to the World Wide Web.” ---
**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2025, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/demanding-cites-for-things-that-would-take-you-2-second-to-look-up-is-lazy/1020281/87 "2025-06-30T18:40:17Z")
> [@pulykamell](#): > > Mosaic was released in 1993. Was it? I thought I was hot shit using Links (Linx?) to access the WWW in 1994. ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2025, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/demanding-cites-for-things-that-would-take-you-2-second-to-look-up-is-lazy/1020281/88 "2025-06-30T18:41:04Z")
Yeah, that would be like me going on an international board centered in Australia and carping about somebody using the word “bogan.” I mean, I could ask nicely instead of assuming the wider audience doesn’t understand the term, which is how that post comes off. ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2025, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/demanding-cites-for-things-that-would-take-you-2-second-to-look-up-is-lazy/1020281/89 "2025-06-30T18:42:23Z")
Pretty sure it was lynx. I remember the graphical browsers taking off really in the summer of 1994. I remember some people toying with them a bit earlier than that, like winter 1993. I myself seem to recall using lynx with help from that proto-Yahoo catalog on Gopher to access WWW around that time, too. ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2025, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/demanding-cites-for-things-that-would-take-you-2-second-to-look-up-is-lazy/1020281/90 "2025-06-30T18:49:45Z")
Well, yeah. That’s what I meant. Most noobs get caught up in the board only inside references. Maybe its just a confusion. What’s only on this board? What’s out there allover social media and pop culture? ---
**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2025, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/demanding-cites-for-things-that-would-take-you-2-second-to-look-up-is-lazy/1020281/91 "2025-06-30T18:56:55Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > Most of which would sail over our heads like an Aaron Judge home run. Who’s that guy? And what’s a home run anyway? ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2025, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/demanding-cites-for-things-that-would-take-you-2-second-to-look-up-is-lazy/1020281/92 "2025-06-30T18:58:26Z")
> [@EinsteinsHund](#): > > And what’s a home run anyway? Chicago pizza chain. Delicious. And you can throw their pizzas over people’s heads. 😃 [![](https://www.kroger.com/product/images/large/front/0003120505002) ](https://www.kroger.com/product/images/large/front/0003120505002) ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2025, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/demanding-cites-for-things-that-would-take-you-2-second-to-look-up-is-lazy/1020281/93 "2025-06-30T19:00:06Z")
> [@Snarky\_Kong](#): > > Oh wow, I wasn’t aware. You’re the one who made the comparison. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2025, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/demanding-cites-for-things-that-would-take-you-2-second-to-look-up-is-lazy/1020281/94 "2025-06-30T19:03:15Z")
> [@Beckdawrek](#): > > What’s only on this board? We do have a glossary to help people with terms that are unique to this board. > [@Beginner's Guide to Glossary of Terms on Straight Dope Message Boards](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/beginners-guide-to-glossary-of-terms-on-straight-dope-message-boards/307442): > > There are a number of terms commonly used on the Straight Dope Message Boards, that are basically “in-jokes” or references. There are several threads listing such, I have tried to compile them all into one post here. If anyone has additions or corrections, please email me – I’m going to keep this locked, so it doesn’t become too long and rambling, but remains fairly focused and easy to use. I have taken these descriptions from various threads and posts by various members. This thread isn’t upda… It’s pinned to the About This Message Board category. And that particular glossary just turned 20 years old this month! ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2025, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/demanding-cites-for-things-that-would-take-you-2-second-to-look-up-is-lazy/1020281/95 "2025-06-30T19:03:30Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > Most of which would sail over our heads like an Aaron Judge home run. Funny coincidence. I was with a group of friends on Saturday and somebody mentioned Aaron Judge - and almost all of us had no idea who Aaron Judge was. So the person who mentioned him explained. So you posted on the one week I’ll get this reference. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2025, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/demanding-cites-for-things-that-would-take-you-2-second-to-look-up-is-lazy/1020281/96 "2025-06-30T19:06:31Z")
“Aaron Judge” is a fictional character, frequently appearing in humorous _New Yorker_ magazine stories. The name is a pun on the phrase, “error in judgement”, and his poor choices often bring ironic consequences. It’s entirely possible that nothing I wrote above is true. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2025, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/demanding-cites-for-things-that-would-take-you-2-second-to-look-up-is-lazy/1020281/97 "2025-06-30T19:08:20Z")
No, I’m pretty sure Aaron Judge was released in New York City’s Central Park in 1890 because he was mentioned in a Shakespeare play. [Referencing the train derailment in this thread.](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/obvious-things-about-a-creative-work-you-realize-after-the-millionth-time-open-spoilers-possible/504117/6374) ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2025, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/demanding-cites-for-things-that-would-take-you-2-second-to-look-up-is-lazy/1020281/98 "2025-06-30T19:08:55Z")
Jolly good. 🧐 ---
**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2025, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/demanding-cites-for-things-that-would-take-you-2-second-to-look-up-is-lazy/1020281/99 "2025-06-30T19:22:11Z")
> [@ParallelLines](#): > > But, in terms of time wasted, figure if even a dozen of us had to blow our 2 seconds doing so, plus a good bit more for reading enough to get context and maybe even listen to a clip, then the OP of the originating thread wasted a lot more time in aggregate than if the OP had spent the time to link a clip. > > Low stakes either way, just pointing out the two sided nature of the complaint. Endorse. Better to err on the side of making better OPs. That said, pop cultural questions tend to matter less, so I’d give more latitude in Cafe Society, the original location of the King of the Hill thread. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2025, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/demanding-cites-for-things-that-would-take-you-2-second-to-look-up-is-lazy/1020281/100 "2025-06-30T20:02:13Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > Another factor is the “What does ‘TP’ mean?” poster is from the Australian Outback. That explains it. I believe that Australian wipe with wallabys. They might say “Pardon me, gov, can you spare a wallaby or two? I need to make a didgeridoo.” [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/demanding-cites-for-things-that-would-take-you-2-second-to-look-up-is-lazy/1020281.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/demanding-cites-for-things-that-would-take-you-2-second-to-look-up-is-lazy/1020281.md?page=6)