# Democracy is dead in Georgia

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democracy-is-dead-in-georgia/822697>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 9, 2018, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democracy-is-dead-in-georgia/822697 "2018-10-09T15:19:47Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 12\
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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2018, 7:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democracy-is-dead-in-georgia/822697/301 "2018-10-18T07:49:14Z")

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> [@Bricker](#):
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> Who gets to decide what “significantly,” means in the above?

…says the person who has been declaring what is “reasonable” and what obstacles to voting are trivial or not for quite a long time now. Oh look - more conservative hypocrisy.

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> You, assisted by the editorial board of Mother Jones, perhaps?

Nice argument, counsellor. All that’s missing is a “libtard” reference and you’d have nailed it.

But let’s also point out that you’ve been perfectly happy to justify voter ID where one or two voters were at stake, but are cavilling about **750,000**. Seems pretty “significant” to me. And that while you’re concerned that I and “the editorial board of Mother Jones” might take a particular view on voter suppression in whatever bizarre hypothetical you’ve cooked up in your mind, you seem perfectly fine with Kris Kobach and friends \*\*actually \*\*removing legitimate voters from the rolls in a manner designed to target voters of a specific political party. And yet more conservative hypocrisy.

I realize that your arguments basically boil down to “we’re rigging the system because we can, neener neener” but you can’t say that out loud because then it would be even more patently obvious that you are perfectly fine with the sort of partisan authoritarianism you are so quick to accuse me of, as long as your side benefits.

Now isn’t it about time you toddled off to ATMB to complain about how mean us liberals are all being to you?

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2018, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democracy-is-dead-in-georgia/822697/302 "2018-10-18T21:07:44Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Whats grinding my gears right now is wondering what can be done.  
> If a Federal court intervenes, he’ll appeal. If he gets the verdict he wants, we’ll appeal. Supremes don’t _have_ to take the case, or they can genuflect to the sacred principle of state’s rights, and not intervene. Someone please tell me I’m wrong, that they couldn’t openly and transparently steal this election, knowing that it will be found to be legal and Constitutional! Don’t just tell me I’m wrong, tell me why.
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> 'Cause what I see now is a bunch of crooks who aren’t worried about the cops.

That’s exactly how I see it shaping up. Republicans control many of the key states, and they’re going to toss out votes. And the Courts aren’t going to intervene. There’s no reason to stop removing voters from the rolls and no reason to shut down polling stations, consequently making voting difficult in the first place.

But this is the beginning. They will become more restrictive, and more aggressive. Making it more challenging to vote is merely the first step in stripping people of power. If authoritarians really want to tilt the balance of power in their favor, they have to start taking away their money and their freedom. It’s not enough to make voting more difficult - not when everyone can see that their policies favor the rich at the expense of the power. For Republicans to survive, the assault on people will have to go further, and it will.

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**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2018, 11:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democracy-is-dead-in-georgia/822697/303 "2018-10-28T11:05:02Z")

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Seems to be no end to Kemp’s attempts to steal the election:

[Number of Georgia Voters Purged by Brian Kemp Continues to Climb](https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/brian-kemp-340000-voters-748165/)

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**Author:** ![MindsEye\_Watering](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mindseye_watering/32/3619_2.png) [@MindsEye\_Watering](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MindsEye_Watering)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2018, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democracy-is-dead-in-georgia/822697/304 "2018-10-28T13:35:16Z")

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[ATLANTA - A federal judge has issued a temporary order that would block Georgia’s election officials from rejecting any absentee ballots under Georgia’s Voter Signature Match Law without giving voters the opportunity to confirm their identity.](http://www.fox5atlanta.com/news/judge-temporarily-blocks-georgia-s-signature-match-law)

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2018, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democracy-is-dead-in-georgia/822697/305 "2018-10-28T15:35:30Z")

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If the Dems lose Georgia, they will take this voter suppression case to court. Guess what happens next. Go on, take a wild stab at it!

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**Author:** ![slumtrimpet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@slumtrimpet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/slumtrimpet)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2018, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democracy-is-dead-in-georgia/822697/306 "2018-10-28T17:11:59Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> If the Dems lose Georgia, they will take this voter suppression case to court. Guess what happens next. Go on, take a wild stab at it!

Do I have to like beer to take a stab at it?

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**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2018, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democracy-is-dead-in-georgia/822697/307 "2018-10-28T17:27:07Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> If the Dems lose Georgia, they will take this voter suppression case to court. Guess what happens next. Go on, take a wild stab at it!

They will rule if wasn’t vote suppression but rather a drinking game?

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2018, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democracy-is-dead-in-georgia/822697/308 "2018-10-28T17:33:58Z")

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> [@Whack-a-Mole](#):
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> Seems to be no end to Kemp’s attempts to steal the election:
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> [Number of Georgia Voters Purged by Brian Kemp Continues to Climb](https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/brian-kemp-340000-voters-748165/)

From the link:

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> Kemp [has become notorious](https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/georgia-voter-suppression-736362/) for his efforts to cull voter registrations, especially those of Democratic and minority voters. Rolling Stone recently obtained [audio of Kemp](https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/brian-kemp-leaked-audio-georgia-voting-745711/) speaking to donors, saying his opponent Stacey Abrams’s campaign “continues to concern us, especially if everybody uses and exercises their right to vote.”

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**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2018, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democracy-is-dead-in-georgia/822697/309 "2018-10-28T17:37:58Z")

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Scary thing is they have made it easier to buy a gun in Georgia than it is to vote. Democracy in action.

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**Author:** ![Blalron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/35a633/32.png) [@Blalron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blalron)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2018, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democracy-is-dead-in-georgia/822697/310 "2018-10-29T14:16:04Z")

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> [@Whack-a-Mole](#):
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> Scary thing is they have made it easier to buy a gun in Georgia than it is to vote. Democracy in action.

Second Amendment solutions? Or does that only apply for White people?

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**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2018, 9:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democracy-is-dead-in-georgia/822697/311 "2018-10-30T09:53:20Z")

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> [@Blalron](#):
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> Second Amendment solutions? Or does that only apply for White people?

Absolutely it only applies to white people, especially in a shitholes like Georgia. If black peole started talking about the second amendment, Fox would be for gun control tomorrow.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2018, 10:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democracy-is-dead-in-georgia/822697/312 "2018-10-30T10:55:56Z")

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Glock, Smith and Wesson, Ruger, they’d be cool with it. Equal rights, and all. Wonder how they will phrase the advertising, to say “Better get a gun, Whitey is coming for you!”.

But, you know, subtle.

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