# Democrat Obstructionism **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 23, 2015, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrat-obstructionism/713455 "2015-02-23T23:01:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2015, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrat-obstructionism/713455/1 "2015-02-23T23:01:49Z")
Why do the Democrats hate the Department of Homeland Security? They just voted, for the fourth time, _against_ funding the agency. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2015, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrat-obstructionism/713455/2 "2015-02-23T23:03:36Z")
> [@D\_Anconia](#): > > Why do the Democrats hate the Department of Homeland Security? They just voted, for the fourth time, _against_ funding the agency. Why should they _like_ it? ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2015, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrat-obstructionism/713455/3 "2015-02-23T23:05:18Z")
> [@D\_Anconia](#): > > Why do the Democrats hate the Department of Homeland Security? They just voted, for the fourth time, _against_ funding the agency. Care to explain to the peanut gallery what the thread title has to do with the content of the first post? ---
**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2015, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrat-obstructionism/713455/4 "2015-02-23T23:16:13Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Why should they _like_ it? I don’t know. Senator Mikulski was going on and on (and on) about the Coast Guard cutting ice in Chesapeake Bay, because, baby, it’s cold outside. :rolleyes: Next, Senator Klobuchar went into some bizarre rant about Somalis in Minnesota. Oh, I almost forgot, Senator Reid started by complaining that the Speaker of the House isn’t listening to him. Why on Earth should he? Still, the Dems voted against funding the department. ---
**Author:** ![markdash](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba8739/32.png) [@markdash](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/markdash)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2015, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrat-obstructionism/713455/5 "2015-02-23T23:17:32Z")
> [@D\_Anconia](#): > > I don’t know. Senator Mikulski was going on and on (and on) about the Coast Guard cutting ice in Chesapeake Bay, because, baby, it’s cold outside. :rolleyes: > > Next, Senator Klobuchar went into some bizarre rant about Somalis in Minnesota. > > Oh, I almost forgot, Senator Reid started by complaining that the Speaker of the House isn’t listening to him. Why on Earth should he? > > Still, the Dems voted against funding the department. How is that obstructionism? ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2015, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrat-obstructionism/713455/6 "2015-02-23T23:17:50Z")
Spin Fail. Reality: The Republicans (who are in charge, and thus fully responsible for what happens) keep having snit fits and attaching poison pills to DHS funding bills. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2015, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrat-obstructionism/713455/7 "2015-02-23T23:18:09Z")
I was never a fan of the Department of Fatherland Security anyway. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2015, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrat-obstructionism/713455/8 "2015-02-23T23:19:26Z")
> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#): > > Care to explain to the peanut gallery what the thread title has to do with the content of the first post? The agency needs funding. The Democrat party is filibustering. That’s obstruction. ---
**Author:** ![Stringbean](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Stringbean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stringbean)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2015, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrat-obstructionism/713455/9 "2015-02-23T23:21:09Z")
It’s a superfluous Orwellian monstrosity created in the irrational, hysterical aftermath of 9/11 and may well be the totalitarian force that once and for all squashes the spirit of individualism amidst the foregone notion of limited government. We’ll see in about 50 years. ---
**Author:** ![Ambrosio\_Spinola](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9de0a6/32.png) [@Ambrosio\_Spinola](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambrosio_Spinola)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2015, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrat-obstructionism/713455/10 "2015-02-23T23:23:53Z")
> [@D\_Anconia](#): > > The agency needs funding. The Democrat party is filibustering. That’s obstruction. The Republicans want to attach conditions to the funding that the Democrats find unacceptable. That’s politics. If you want to debate whether the conditions are good or not, why poison the well? ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2015, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrat-obstructionism/713455/11 "2015-02-23T23:26:56Z")
> [@D\_Anconia](#): > > The agency needs funding. The Democrat party is filibustering. That’s obstruction. You know what you guys should do? Abolish the filibuster. It’s undemocratic and evil, right? And it’ll _never_ ever come back and bite you in the ass, because you have a permanent majority, right? Right? ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2015, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrat-obstructionism/713455/12 "2015-02-23T23:27:01Z")
The title of the thread is ‘Democrat Obstructionism’. So… There’s only one Democrat that’s being obstructive? If it was party-wide, then it would be Democrat_ic_ obstructionism. But since it’s only one guy, what’s the problem? ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2015, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrat-obstructionism/713455/13 "2015-02-23T23:32:19Z")
Not really a debate. More of a short rant. Off to the Pit. Have fun. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2015, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrat-obstructionism/713455/14 "2015-02-23T23:32:34Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > The title of the thread is ‘Democrat Obstructionism’. > > So… There’s only one Democrat that’s being obstructive? If it was party-wide, then it would be Democrat_ic_ obstructionism. **But since it’s only one guy, what’s the problem?** Maybe he’s really fat and the hallway is narrow. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2015, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrat-obstructionism/713455/15 "2015-02-23T23:37:29Z")
Because they’re evil commie Muslims who hate America? ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2015, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrat-obstructionism/713455/16 "2015-02-23T23:38:03Z")
The Democrats do not oppose the Department of Homeland Security. Both parties support the DHS. The Republicans are opposed to President Obama’s Executive Order on Immigration. Democrats support the executive order. Republicans put an override of the executive order into the DHS funding bill. Democrats have said they will vote for a funding bill that takes out the override but will not vote for a bill that includes it. Right now both parties are playing a game of chicken on the issue and trying to make sure the other party gets the blame if a bill isn’t passed. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2015, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrat-obstructionism/713455/17 "2015-02-23T23:48:21Z")
> [@Jonathan\_Chance](#): > > Not really a debate. More of a short rant. > > Off to the Pit. Have fun. This is a disheartening trend. Moving threads to the Pit, where people can insult you, rather than focusing on the issues at hand. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2015, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrat-obstructionism/713455/18 "2015-02-23T23:55:23Z")
Shut up you fucking trainwreck. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2015, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrat-obstructionism/713455/19 "2015-02-23T23:59:18Z")
> [@GrandWino](#): > > Shut up you fucking trainwreck. Telling other people to shut up is not how message boards function. Go fuck a cactus. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2015, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrat-obstructionism/713455/20 "2015-02-24T00:10:26Z")
You don’t think you’re omitting any key details in your OP, do you? 😉 [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/democrat-obstructionism/713455.md?page=2)